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How much stronger is perfect cell than frieza at 100%
Topic Started: May 26 2013, 02:00 PM (9,547 Views)
EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

There's no way you'll be able to make a 10x difference between FP Cell and 100% Freeza even if you use the smallest possible gaps. Let's say each gap is 1.2x

FP Cell

SSJ Gohan

SSJ Goku

SSJ Vegeta (2nd Rosat)

ASSJ Vegeta (1st Rosat)

Semi-Cell

Imperfect Cell

Kamiccolo

SSJ Vegeta

SSJ Goku (3 years)

#19

SSJ Trunks

100% Freeza

Doing just this, putting everything at an extremely low difference and not even placing everything together, already puts FP Cell above 10x.

This is the same kind of thing that happens when people try to make the difference between SSj3 Goku and Super Boo really small, like 5x or 10x. Try it, seriously try to make a list and even using the smallest amps and differences you're going to find out that theses number can end up being huge. The difference between Cell and Freeza is no different.
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May 31 2013, 02:07 PM
There's no way you'll be able to make a 10x difference between FP Cell and 100% Freeza even if you use the smallest possible gaps. Let's say each gap is 1.2x

FP Cell

SSJ Gohan

SSJ Goku

SSJ Vegeta (2nd Rosat)

ASSJ Vegeta (1st Rosat)

Semi-Cell

Imperfect Cell

Kamiccolo

SSJ Vegeta

SSJ Goku (3 years)

#19

SSJ Trunks

100% Freeza

Doing just this, putting everything at an extremely low difference and not even placing everything together, already puts FP Cell above 10x.

This is the same kind of thing that happens when people try to make the difference between SSj3 Goku and Super Boo really small, like 5x or 10x. Try it, seriously try to make a list and even using the smallest amps and differences you're going to find out that theses number can end up being huge. The difference between Cell and Freeza is no different.
well how about that
frieza 10
ssj trunks 12
19 14
ssj goku 20
ssj vegeta 25

kamiccolo 30
imperfect cell 35
semi cell 65
assj vegeta 78
ssj vegeta 80
ssj goku 80
ssj gohan 90
perfect cell 100
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Some of your numbers aren't the same and don't make sense though. 1.2x is proven in the Freeza Arc to be the lowest of a stomping gap. the gap between each character in my list each would be 1.2x (at the least) for each person with the possible exception of Android Arc Goku and Android Arc Vegeta.

for example you only have a 1.07x difference between Semi-Cell and ASSJ Vegeta. That's enough for Cell to rival Vegeta and that of course does not happen.
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May 31 2013, 02:17 PM
Some of your numbers aren't the same and don't make sense though. 1.2x is proven in the Freeza Arc to be the lowest of a stomping gap. the gap between each character in my list each would be 1.2x (at the least) for each person with the possible exception of Android Arc Goku and Android Arc Vegeta.

for example you only have a 1.07x difference between Semi-Cell and ASSJ Vegeta. That's enough for Cell to rival Vegeta and that of course does not happen.
edited now what ? :D :w00t:

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May 31 2013, 02:11 PM
Brofist
May 31 2013, 02:07 PM
There's no way you'll be able to make a 10x difference between FP Cell and 100% Freeza even if you use the smallest possible gaps. Let's say each gap is 1.2x

FP Cell

SSJ Gohan

SSJ Goku

SSJ Vegeta (2nd Rosat)

ASSJ Vegeta (1st Rosat)

Semi-Cell

Imperfect Cell

Kamiccolo

SSJ Vegeta

SSJ Goku (3 years)

#19

SSJ Trunks

100% Freeza

Doing just this, putting everything at an extremely low difference and not even placing everything together, already puts FP Cell above 10x.

This is the same kind of thing that happens when people try to make the difference between SSj3 Goku and Super Boo really small, like 5x or 10x. Try it, seriously try to make a list and even using the smallest amps and differences you're going to find out that theses number can end up being huge. The difference between Cell and Freeza is no different.
well how about that
frieza 10
ssj trunks 12
19 14
ssj goku 20
ssj vegeta 25

kamiccolo 30
imperfect cell 35
semi cell 65
assj vegeta 70
ssj vegeta 72
ssj goku 80
ssj gohan 90
perfect cell 100
:)
Just the reason i hate small gaps and think they are illogical

lets take this from ur list

frieza 10
ssj trunks 12
ssj goku 20

so , by ur calculation , Namek SSj Goku should be 11

Goku trained hard , very hard for 4 years [3 years + 1 year Yardrat training] and his power increased less than 2x ?

Thats .... pathetic [i aint targeting u , its my general feeling towards small gaps]
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Piccolo and Imperfect Cell are only 1.16x, that won't work especially when Cell outright tanked an amplified blast.

You only have a 1.02x difference between ASSJ Vegeta and SSJ Vegeta (Second Rosat) and that won't work at all.

SSJ Goku=SSj Vegeta? I'm guessing that's a mistake which of course needs the others to change as well.
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Brofist
May 31 2013, 02:17 PM
1.2x is proven in the Freeza Arc to be the lowest of a stomping gap.
You can stomp with a 20% difference, but that doesn't say anything about 20% being a minimum.

For all we know, the minimum could be 15% or even lower.
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Just the reason i hate small gaps and think they are illogical

lets take this from ur list

frieza 10
ssj trunks 12
ssj goku 20

so , by ur calculation , Namek SSj Goku should be 11

Goku trained hard , very hard for 4 years [3 years + 1 year Yardrat training] and his power increased less than 2x ?

Thats .... pathetic [i aint targeting u , its my general feeling towards small gaps]


okay so by your logic...
frieza 120
ssjgoku 150
ssjtrunks 160
ssjgoku android arc 500
#19 550
Vegeta ssj 1500
#20 1000
kamiccolo 6000
#18 5000
#17 6000
#16 20000
initial imperfect cell 20000
semi cell 40000
assj vegeta 80000
initial perfect cell 100000
goku mssj 150 000
gohan mssj 200 000
fp cell 300 000
ssj2 gohan 1000 000
spc 600 000

IS THAT RIGHT?
:o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :lol:
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"I am the bone of my sword."

That's literally what we're shown though, and we have to work with what we've got. You can't just make up random numbers, you have to use what were given.

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May 31 2013, 02:31 PM
okay so by your logic...
frieza 120
ssjgoku 150
ssjtrunks 160
ssjgoku android arc 500
#19 550
Vegeta ssj 1500
#20 1000
kamiccolo 6000
#18 5000
#17 6000
#16 20000
initial imperfect cell 20000
semi cell 40000
assj vegeta 80000
initial perfect cell 100000
goku mssj 150 000
gohan mssj 200 000
fp cell 300 000
ssj2 gohan 1000 000
spc 600 000

IS THAT RIGHT?
:o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :lol:
There's no need for the gap between SSJ Vegeta and #18 to be that big. You're just trying too hard to make it look stupid and it doesn't even work that well.
Edited by IllogicalGlory, May 31 2013, 02:35 PM.
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May 31 2013, 02:33 PM
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May 31 2013, 02:31 PM
okay so by your logic...
frieza 120
ssjgoku 150
ssjtrunks 160
ssjgoku android arc 500
#19 550
Vegeta ssj 1500
#20 1000
kamiccolo 6000
#18 5000
#17 6000
#16 20000
initial imperfect cell 20000
semi cell 40000
assj vegeta 80000
initial perfect cell 100000
goku mssj 150 000
gohan mssj 200 000
fp cell 300 000
ssj2 gohan 1000 000
spc 600 000

IS THAT RIGHT?
:o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :lol:
There's no need for the gap between SSJ Vegeta and #18 to be that big. You're just trying too hard to make it look stupid and it doesn't even work that well.
no it is pathetic.....
IMO
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May 31 2013, 02:33 PM
You're just trying too hard to make it look stupid and it doesn't even work that well.
It seemed to accurately portray the ridiculousness to me.
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May 31 2013, 02:31 PM
okay so by your logic...
frieza 120
ssjgoku 150
ssjtrunks 180
ssjgoku android arc 1000
#19 850
Vegeta ssj 1500
#20 1000
kamiccolo 6000
#18 5500
#17 6000
#16 20000
post humans imperfect cell 20000
semi cell 70000
assj vegeta 120000
initial perfect cell 230000 [vs Trunks]
goku mssj 280000
gohan mssj 310000
fp cell 410000
ssj2 gohan 900000
spc 820000

IS THAT RIGHT?
:o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :o_O: :lol:
I wont disagree to the fixed list

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I am not sayin that we have to use 1.001 gaps ..for stomps
But look this ..
BoZ goku ~1000
EoZ goku 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Now tell me if it is not weird

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