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How much stronger is perfect cell than frieza at 100%
Topic Started: May 26 2013, 02:00 PM (9,549 Views)
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According to BOG, less than 100x.
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p123
May 26 2013, 09:09 PM
According to BOG, less than 100x.
The whole Freeza>Base Goku statement from there isn't that solid though, especially not when Goku could just be easily supressed (and especially not when Freeza>Base Goku contradicts so much it's not even funny.)
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I'd probably say a few thousand times stronger than Freeza. I don't really have any static numbers yet.
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p123
May 26 2013, 09:09 PM
According to BOG, less than 100x.
What is BOG
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May 26 2013, 09:19 PM
p123
May 26 2013, 09:09 PM
According to BOG, less than 100x.
The whole Freeza>Base Goku statement from there isn't that solid though, especially not when Goku could just be easily supressed (and especially not when Freeza>Base Goku contradicts so much it's not even funny.)
I think the explanation for Freeza > Base Goku for the Battle of Gods movie is they still had the idea of using the Super Saiyan form as a 50 times multiplier.
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what is this battle of the gods movie
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What's so wrong with Freeza > Base Saiyans?
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I have Frieza exactly 1142.85714286x weaker than FP Perfect Cell. That is from my old list since I no longer have access to my new list.
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May 26 2013, 09:19 PM
p123
May 26 2013, 09:09 PM
According to BOG, less than 100x.
The whole Freeza>Base Goku statement from there isn't that solid though, especially not when Goku could just be easily supressed (and especially not when Freeza>Base Goku contradicts so much it's not even funny.)

Hell, if the kids that defend the guidebook power levels (or at least V-Jump) can worm their way around statements and whatnot, then it's all fair for us to "bypass" that ridiculous dunce of a notion in the new movie.
p123
May 26 2013, 11:04 PM
What's so wrong with Freeza > Base Saiyans?

Base Goku >/~ Yakon > Pui-Pui > Kaioshin > Freeza is laid out in a coherent chain.

Base Goten/Trunks >/~ Cyborg #18 > Freeza is pretty obvious, thus the adults must be stronger than Freeza by default.
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May 26 2013, 09:01 PM
It all depends on the way you do your numbers. As for me, I go big with my numbers, 50x SSJ amplifier and such, so I have over a 22,000x difference between FP Perfect Cell and 100% Freeza.
There's nothing that states SSj is 50x Base. It only says that for Goku's initial transformation. For all we know, his SSj could either be 50x, or simply add 147,000,000 Battle Power points on to his resting state.

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what is this battle of the gods movie

It was a new movie that came out this year (in Japan). It takes place after the fight against Boo, but before the end of DBZ. They fight an enemy named Bills, who's a God of Destruction.
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where is the movie does it talk about how much perfect cell was stronger than frieza.
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May 27 2013, 11:26 AM
where is the movie does it talk about how much perfect cell was stronger than frieza.
No, it doesn't. Nothing does.
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I am just curious. Even though these are filler scenes that happen in the anime and not in the manga I will bring it up. I personally do not like to compare the manga and anime. Certain things happen in the anime that did not happen in the manga. I just remember right after the cell games goku traveled with king kai to the great kai planet where he met pikon. The grand kai then came out and ordered pikon to go to hell to take of cell and frieza and goku followed after him. Pikon said he did not ask for help but goku then said, " Yeah and I have already fought against both cell and frieza and you haven't so unless your made of something crazy your going to need help. " I know that was complete filler but reason being is the fact that goku 4 years later after him fighting frieza brings that up along with cell shows that frieza is still a powerful opponent. Yes cell is most definite stronger than frieza for sure though.
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I personaly put FP Perfect Cell aroun 40x stronger than 100% Frieza.
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The Fuhrer has already made the remark but as stated, Base Goku was already at a level rivaling if not stronger than Yakon, a guy even stronger than Pui Pui who was an opponent that Kaioshin thought would be a monster, one of Babidi's strongest and they'd have to do all they could to take him down and subsequently **** his pants when Base Vegeta (who is already significantly weaker than Base Goku) outright annihilated him.

If BOG makes any sort of reference that Freeza>Base Goku, then clearly AT and/or the writers have no clue of what they're talking about.

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There's nothing that states SSj is 50x Base. It only says that for Goku's initial transformation. For all we know, his SSj could either be 50x, or simply add 147,000,000 Battle Power points on to his resting state.


You're going to have to go through a heck of a lot of baseless assumptions to make an additive work. Especially when AT remarks that the SSJ transformation is a multiplier. He uses 10x against Freeza which is just plain wrong, but he still notes it as a multiplier.
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