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My dbz power ranking list
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Topic Started: May 26 2013, 07:18 AM (4,007 Views)
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May 27 2013, 12:43 AM
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in the Japanese version, Kaio-sama notes that an entity that is destroying the Southern Galaxy is stronger than Goku and everyone else and of course since Broly is currently being restricted by Paragus' device, it has to refer to RSSJ Broly.
SSj Broly>SSJ Boo Arc Goku is stated in a databook. Might be one of the Daiz. but not sure, I'm sure someone can give the exact statement to you.
I don't take this databook or the Daiz too seriously, I think I'll stick with what is shown on the actual show, and from what I could see a weaker base gohan was doing pretty good against broly who you think is stronger than a much stronger goku ssj from the buu saga Daizenshuu 6 is a guidebook specifically made for the movies. It has a statement putting Super Saiyan Broly above Super Saiyan Goku (Boo arc). Meanwhile, the movies have the Base Saiyans performing unrealistic feats compared to their Super Saiyan selves.
And you're going to ignore the guidebook and go with Toei's logic for the Base Saiyans.
Why?
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May 27 2013, 09:25 AM
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Majin Vegeta doesn't come close to Fat Boo. Everything Vegeta did was laughed off at Fatty and we have direct statements saying that the combined might of SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, SSj2 Gohan and others wouldn't have stopped Fat Boo. Fat Boo is shown to be on the rivaling range of SSj3 Goku. To even say that Majin Vegeta is close to Fat Boo is absurd and is the equivalent of saying that Vegeta rivals SSj3 Goku, Fat Boo and Kid Boo which we know is completely false.
You can put Movie 10 Broly at Majin Vegeta's range if you wish, you can even put him at Good Boo, but he's nowhere near the level of Fat Boo.
And as for hatchy being anywhere near Super Boo, that's outright impossible. You must understand that there are massive gaps even when using the smallest multipliers with these characters.
Super Boo>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post Rosat)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat)>>SSJ3 Goku>~Fat Boo>>>SSj2 Goku>SSJ Goku (Boo Arc)>SSJ Goku (Cell Games/Movie 8/Hatchy movie)
The kind of difference you have between Super Boo and SSj3 Goku alone using the smallest multipliers, smallest amplifiers, things like 10x SSJ, 2x SSJ2, 3x SSj3 and 1.2x differences literally put the gap into the hundred to near thousand fold. When you actually use even larger numbers you get into the thousands, ten thousands and even hundred thousand fold differences. If Hatchy of any form was on Super Boo, there would be no way any of them could've stopped him. They'd have had a better chance reversing the polarity of Jupiter and making it snow diamonds then beating Hatchy. I don't see how majin vegeta can't be close to fat buu, did you even see there fight, I'm talking about he must be kind of close in power or at least not THAT far away the way you make it out, it's just he's way to hard to kill with his healing, vegeta even said "is he immortal" not saying somthing about that he's so powerful, fat buu is not on goku ssj3's level dude, goku was playing with him did you not even watch it, and goku was supressed just stalling time he could have easily finished it if he wanted to but he wanted to give the kids a chance.
Secondly I already told you you where right about hatchiyack, jeez I wasn't thinking they just make it out like he's do powerful, but I ment to change it before I put it up
Also going by what you said earlier you Must think
Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu
Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
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Majin Vegeta doesn't come close to Fat Boo. Everything Vegeta did was laughed off at Fatty and we have direct statements saying that the combined might of SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, SSj2 Gohan and others wouldn't have stopped Fat Boo. Fat Boo is shown to be on the rivaling range of SSj3 Goku. To even say that Majin Vegeta is close to Fat Boo is absurd and is the equivalent of saying that Vegeta rivals SSj3 Goku, Fat Boo and Kid Boo which we know is completely false.
You can put Movie 10 Broly at Majin Vegeta's range if you wish, you can even put him at Good Boo, but he's nowhere near the level of Fat Boo.
And as for hatchy being anywhere near Super Boo, that's outright impossible. You must understand that there are massive gaps even when using the smallest multipliers with these characters.
Super Boo>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post Rosat)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat)>>SSJ3 Goku>~Fat Boo>>>SSj2 Goku>SSJ Goku (Boo Arc)>SSJ Goku (Cell Games/Movie 8/Hatchy movie)
The kind of difference you have between Super Boo and SSj3 Goku alone using the smallest multipliers, smallest amplifiers, things like 10x SSJ, 2x SSJ2, 3x SSj3 and 1.2x differences literally put the gap into the hundred to near thousand fold. When you actually use even larger numbers you get into the thousands, ten thousands and even hundred thousand fold differences. If Hatchy of any form was on Super Boo, there would be no way any of them could've stopped him. They'd have had a better chance reversing the polarity of Jupiter and making it snow diamonds then beating Hatchy.
I don't see how majin vegeta can't be close to fat buu, did you even see there fight, I'm talking about he must be kind of close in power or at least not THAT far away the way you make it out, it's just he's way to hard to kill with his healing, vegeta even said "is he immortal" not saying somthing about that he's so powerful, fat buu is not on goku ssj3's level dude, goku was playing with him did you not even watch it, and goku was supressed just stalling time he could have easily finished it if he wanted to but he wanted to give the kids a chance. Secondly I already told you you where right about hatchiyack, jeez I wasn't thinking they just make it out like he's do powerful, but I ment to change it before I put it up Also going by what you said earlier you Must think Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...? SSj3 Goku said he MIGHT have been able to beat Fat buu using Full Power
"Using Full Power" .
What do u think ? Goku wasnt Playing around . Yes , he was stalling time , but he could have beaten Fat buu Only by going FP .
And vs majin vegeta , Fat Buu was literally playing around . He wasnt even trying to fight back with some good moves
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Also going by what you said earlier you Must think
Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu
Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
It was said by Vegeta that only a Buu can hurt a buu . So , if 2 buu's fight , they will have a heck of a battle
and Good Buu > SSj2 Goku
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May 27 2013, 09:46 AM
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in the Japanese version, Kaio-sama notes that an entity that is destroying the Southern Galaxy is stronger than Goku and everyone else and of course since Broly is currently being restricted by Paragus' device, it has to refer to RSSJ Broly.
SSj Broly>SSJ Boo Arc Goku is stated in a databook. Might be one of the Daiz. but not sure, I'm sure someone can give the exact statement to you.
I don't take this databook or the Daiz too seriously, I think I'll stick with what is shown on the actual show, and from what I could see a weaker base gohan was doing pretty good against broly who you think is stronger than a much stronger goku ssj from the buu saga
Daizenshuu 6 is a guidebook specifically made for the movies. It has a statement putting Super Saiyan Broly above Super Saiyan Goku (Boo arc). Meanwhile, the movies have the Base Saiyans performing unrealistic feats compared to their Super Saiyan selves. And you're going to ignore the guidebook and go with Toei's logic for the Base Saiyans. Why? Why? Well in both movies it shows broly ssj fighting base sayains which seems to imply that he's not anywhere near as strong as the Daiz says, and I don't know about you but I think I'll go with what the movie shows, they way you said sounds kinda stupid, that's like your saying "why go with what the ACTUAL movie shows you when you can go with this guidebook that exaderates the he'll out of it
But then again I may be wrong, I'll check out the Daiz again, I remember looking at it ages ago but I seen one stupid thing at the start so I got put of it.
Can I ask who made it?
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Majin Vegeta doesn't come close to Fat Boo. Everything Vegeta did was laughed off at Fatty and we have direct statements saying that the combined might of SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, SSj2 Gohan and others wouldn't have stopped Fat Boo. Fat Boo is shown to be on the rivaling range of SSj3 Goku. To even say that Majin Vegeta is close to Fat Boo is absurd and is the equivalent of saying that Vegeta rivals SSj3 Goku, Fat Boo and Kid Boo which we know is completely false.
You can put Movie 10 Broly at Majin Vegeta's range if you wish, you can even put him at Good Boo, but he's nowhere near the level of Fat Boo.
And as for hatchy being anywhere near Super Boo, that's outright impossible. You must understand that there are massive gaps even when using the smallest multipliers with these characters.
Super Boo>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post Rosat)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat)>>SSJ3 Goku>~Fat Boo>>>SSj2 Goku>SSJ Goku (Boo Arc)>SSJ Goku (Cell Games/Movie 8/Hatchy movie)
The kind of difference you have between Super Boo and SSj3 Goku alone using the smallest multipliers, smallest amplifiers, things like 10x SSJ, 2x SSJ2, 3x SSj3 and 1.2x differences literally put the gap into the hundred to near thousand fold. When you actually use even larger numbers you get into the thousands, ten thousands and even hundred thousand fold differences. If Hatchy of any form was on Super Boo, there would be no way any of them could've stopped him. They'd have had a better chance reversing the polarity of Jupiter and making it snow diamonds then beating Hatchy.
I don't see how majin vegeta can't be close to fat buu, did you even see there fight, I'm talking about he must be kind of close in power or at least not THAT far away the way you make it out, it's just he's way to hard to kill with his healing, vegeta even said "is he immortal" not saying somthing about that he's so powerful, fat buu is not on goku ssj3's level dude, goku was playing with him did you not even watch it, and goku was supressed just stalling time he could have easily finished it if he wanted to but he wanted to give the kids a chance. Secondly I already told you you where right about hatchiyack, jeez I wasn't thinking they just make it out like he's do powerful, but I ment to change it before I put it up Also going by what you said earlier you Must think Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
SSj3 Goku said he MIGHT have been able to beat Fat buu using Full Power "Using Full Power" . What do u think ? Goku wasnt Playing around . Yes , he was stalling time , but he could have beaten Fat buu Only by going FP . And vs majin vegeta , Fat Buu was literally playing around . He wasnt even trying to fight back with some good moves - Quote:
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Also going by what you said earlier you Must think
Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu
Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
It was said by Vegeta that only a Buu can hurt a buu . So , if 2 buu's fight , they will have a heck of a battle and Good Buu > SSj2 Goku Ow, so fat buu was playing around with vegeta because you say so but goku wasn't playing around with fat buu even though it loolked like it just because you say so
And when did goku say he might have been able to beat fat buu if he used full power, I remember him saying I should have finished fat buu when I had the the chance
Also goku ssj2>good buu, that's pretty obvious
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Majin Vegeta doesn't come close to Fat Boo. Everything Vegeta did was laughed off at Fatty and we have direct statements saying that the combined might of SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, SSj2 Gohan and others wouldn't have stopped Fat Boo. Fat Boo is shown to be on the rivaling range of SSj3 Goku. To even say that Majin Vegeta is close to Fat Boo is absurd and is the equivalent of saying that Vegeta rivals SSj3 Goku, Fat Boo and Kid Boo which we know is completely false.
You can put Movie 10 Broly at Majin Vegeta's range if you wish, you can even put him at Good Boo, but he's nowhere near the level of Fat Boo.
And as for hatchy being anywhere near Super Boo, that's outright impossible. You must understand that there are massive gaps even when using the smallest multipliers with these characters.
Super Boo>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post Rosat)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat)>>SSJ3 Goku>~Fat Boo>>>SSj2 Goku>SSJ Goku (Boo Arc)>SSJ Goku (Cell Games/Movie 8/Hatchy movie)
The kind of difference you have between Super Boo and SSj3 Goku alone using the smallest multipliers, smallest amplifiers, things like 10x SSJ, 2x SSJ2, 3x SSj3 and 1.2x differences literally put the gap into the hundred to near thousand fold. When you actually use even larger numbers you get into the thousands, ten thousands and even hundred thousand fold differences. If Hatchy of any form was on Super Boo, there would be no way any of them could've stopped him. They'd have had a better chance reversing the polarity of Jupiter and making it snow diamonds then beating Hatchy.
I don't see how majin vegeta can't be close to fat buu, did you even see there fight, I'm talking about he must be kind of close in power or at least not THAT far away the way you make it out, it's just he's way to hard to kill with his healing, vegeta even said "is he immortal" not saying somthing about that he's so powerful, fat buu is not on goku ssj3's level dude, goku was playing with him did you not even watch it, and goku was supressed just stalling time he could have easily finished it if he wanted to but he wanted to give the kids a chance. Secondly I already told you you where right about hatchiyack, jeez I wasn't thinking they just make it out like he's do powerful, but I ment to change it before I put it up Also going by what you said earlier you Must think Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
SSj3 Goku said he MIGHT have been able to beat Fat buu using Full Power "Using Full Power" . What do u think ? Goku wasnt Playing around . Yes , he was stalling time , but he could have beaten Fat buu Only by going FP . And vs majin vegeta , Fat Buu was literally playing around . He wasnt even trying to fight back with some good moves - Quote:
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Also going by what you said earlier you Must think
Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu
Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
It was said by Vegeta that only a Buu can hurt a buu . So , if 2 buu's fight , they will have a heck of a battle and Good Buu > SSj2 Goku
Ow, so fat buu was playing around with vegeta because you say so but goku wasn't playing around with fat buu even though it loolked like it just because you say so And when did goku say he might have been able to beat fat buu if he used full power, I remember him saying I should have finished fat buu when I had the the chance Also goku ssj2>good buu, that's pretty obvious SSj2 Goku = SSj2 Vegeta
And Good Buu did much better than SSj2 Vegeta vs kid buu
that put good buu above them
and yes , Fat buu never fought very hard until against SSj3 Goku .
If u dont believe me , see the manga
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Anime Base Vegito was Indeed Weaker than Anime Buuhan . its becoz Buuhan indirectly said that he was holding back
Thanks, that's what I thought I may be mistaken, but Vegetto base was owning Buuhan. I'm sure that Buu was just bluffing saying he could beat him in ''full power''.
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Majin Vegeta doesn't come close to Fat Boo. Everything Vegeta did was laughed off at Fatty and we have direct statements saying that the combined might of SSj2 Goku, SSj2 Vegeta, SSj2 Gohan and others wouldn't have stopped Fat Boo. Fat Boo is shown to be on the rivaling range of SSj3 Goku. To even say that Majin Vegeta is close to Fat Boo is absurd and is the equivalent of saying that Vegeta rivals SSj3 Goku, Fat Boo and Kid Boo which we know is completely false.
You can put Movie 10 Broly at Majin Vegeta's range if you wish, you can even put him at Good Boo, but he's nowhere near the level of Fat Boo.
And as for hatchy being anywhere near Super Boo, that's outright impossible. You must understand that there are massive gaps even when using the smallest multipliers with these characters.
Super Boo>>>SSJ Gotenks (Post Rosat)>SSJ Gotenks (Pre-Rosat)>>SSJ3 Goku>~Fat Boo>>>SSj2 Goku>SSJ Goku (Boo Arc)>SSJ Goku (Cell Games/Movie 8/Hatchy movie)
The kind of difference you have between Super Boo and SSj3 Goku alone using the smallest multipliers, smallest amplifiers, things like 10x SSJ, 2x SSJ2, 3x SSj3 and 1.2x differences literally put the gap into the hundred to near thousand fold. When you actually use even larger numbers you get into the thousands, ten thousands and even hundred thousand fold differences. If Hatchy of any form was on Super Boo, there would be no way any of them could've stopped him. They'd have had a better chance reversing the polarity of Jupiter and making it snow diamonds then beating Hatchy.
I don't see how majin vegeta can't be close to fat buu, did you even see there fight, I'm talking about he must be kind of close in power or at least not THAT far away the way you make it out, it's just he's way to hard to kill with his healing, vegeta even said "is he immortal" not saying somthing about that he's so powerful, fat buu is not on goku ssj3's level dude, goku was playing with him did you not even watch it, and goku was supressed just stalling time he could have easily finished it if he wanted to but he wanted to give the kids a chance. Secondly I already told you you where right about hatchiyack, jeez I wasn't thinking they just make it out like he's do powerful, but I ment to change it before I put it up Also going by what you said earlier you Must think Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
SSj3 Goku said he MIGHT have been able to beat Fat buu using Full Power "Using Full Power" . What do u think ? Goku wasnt Playing around . Yes , he was stalling time , but he could have beaten Fat buu Only by going FP . And vs majin vegeta , Fat Buu was literally playing around . He wasnt even trying to fight back with some good moves - Quote:
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Also going by what you said earlier you Must think
Kid buu>> buuhan>>buutenks>mystic gohan>buucilo> gotenks ssj3~>super buu>fat buu>grey buu>good buu
Yet good buu does allright against kid buu hmm...?
It was said by Vegeta that only a Buu can hurt a buu . So , if 2 buu's fight , they will have a heck of a battle and Good Buu > SSj2 Goku
Ow, so fat buu was playing around with vegeta because you say so but goku wasn't playing around with fat buu even though it loolked like it just because you say so And when did goku say he might have been able to beat fat buu if he used full power, I remember him saying I should have finished fat buu when I had the the chance Also goku ssj2>good buu, that's pretty obvious
SSj2 Goku = SSj2 Vegeta And Good Buu did much better than SSj2 Vegeta vs kid buu that put good buu above them and yes , Fat buu never fought very hard until against SSj3 Goku . If u dont believe me , see the manga Wait! Now your saying good buu>goku ssj2 because vegeta who = goku didn't do as good as good buu, what happened to vegeta saying buu's can hurt other buu's so it oughta be a heck of a fight, isn't that why he did better than vegeta? You said it yourself that's why he could keep up.
Also where talking Anime here which is completely different to the manga in the buu saga, so why are you telling to read that if I don't believe you, one thing in that could be way different Anime wise going by how different kid buu is in it.
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Anime Base Vegito was Indeed Weaker than Anime Buuhan . its becoz Buuhan indirectly said that he was holding back
Thanks, that's what I thought
I may be mistaken, but Vegetto base was owning Buuhan. I'm sure that Buu was just bluffing saying he could beat him in ''full power''. if he was bluffing , Vegito would never go SSj
Vegito did realize that he cant beat him in base
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Yamcha- kame training Raditz Saiberman Yarjarobi Choutsu- kame training Mr popo Kame Corin Master roshi
Now that is just wrong... Korin is stronger than Master Roshi?
That is just... And you are forgetting Master Roshi's Buff form right?
The list should be like this,
Raditz Saiberman - (Saibamen*) Yamcha- kame training Choutsu- kame training Mr popo Kame Master roshi Yarjarobi Corin - (Korin*)
Yamcha was indeed weaker than the Sabiamen, the Sabiamen were equal match for Yamcha, therefore Vegeta said 1 power level of Sabiamen is equal to Raditz. And Yamcha couldn't even defeat the Sabiamen, Krillin did had a rage boost seeing his friend died triggered that hidden potential to his full limit for a second while he did 1 of his signature move. And Yarjarobi isn't stronger than Master Roshi, he's just a samurai who is used to katana's.
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Yamcha- kame training Raditz Saiberman Yarjarobi Choutsu- kame training Mr popo Kame Corin Master roshi
Now that is just wrong... Korin is stronger than Master Roshi? That is just... And you are forgetting Master Roshi's Buff form right? The list should be like this, Raditz Saiberman - (Saibamen*) Yamcha- kame training Choutsu- kame training Mr popo Kame Master roshi Yarjarobi Corin - (Korin*) Yamcha was indeed weaker than the Sabiamen, the Sabiamen were equal match for Yamcha, therefore Vegeta said 1 power level of Sabiamen is equal to Raditz. And Yamcha couldn't even defeat the Sabiamen, Krillin did had a rage boost seeing his friend died triggered that hidden potential to his full limit for a second while he did 1 of his signature move. And Yarjarobi isn't stronger than Master Roshi, he's just a samurai who is used to katana's. Sorry man but I think your wrong, and I think people would agree with me on this one
First of all yamcha beat the Saiberman so he is stronger, it's just that he got too cocky and let down his guard once he thought the Saiberman was dead giving it time to catch him and use it's trump card.
Secondly yarjarobi is stronger than roshi, heck he might have been stronger than roshi in dragonball, did you not see what he did to drum, and he was sopose to be pretty close to goku at that time which goku was stronger than roshi, and then once he gets trained at kame's lookout that just makes it definet.
I don't know for shore but I just assumed Corin was stronger than roshi because he's like a higher master but also when goku was trying to get the water from him I think he was already stronger than roshi yet it took goku three days, but I don't know for shore on that one and yes I forgot about bulky roshi
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I don't see how majin vegeta can't be close to fat buu, did you even see there fight, I'm talking about he must be kind of close in power or at least not THAT far away the way you make it out, it's just he's way to hard to kill with his healing, vegeta even said "is he immortal" not saying somthing about that he's so powerful,
Boo was already on par with Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan when he hatched. Then he got angry at Dabura and it was stated that he powered up enough to be stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta/Goku, but not so strong that the three of them couldn't win if they fought together. Then he got angry at Vegeta and powered up further, which Krillin commented on. Then he got even angrier and used his "angry explosion" attack, which put him up to Goku's level.
Fat Boo didn't need to fight back against Vegeta because Vegeta's attacks weren't hurting him. The only attack that did was the piercing bullet. Boo's biology allows him to look like he's losing when he's really not. You kind of have to go by statements when you gauge his power because his nature isn't all that reliable.
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fat buu is not on goku ssj3's level dude, goku was playing with him did you not even watch it, and goku was supressed just stalling time he could have easily finished it if he wanted to but he wanted to give the kids a chance.
You sound very condescending right now, and I don't think you're in any place to be.
Goku was holding back his attacking power, but that doesn't mean he was holding back his actual power, if you get what I mean. Basically he was pulling his punches but not suppressing. This is supported by, well, everything about their fight and later comments. I don't remember their anime fight all that well, but I remember in the manga it wasn't totally one-sided and both of them were having fun; both of them were smiling at the end of it.
After the fight, Goku told Piccolo that he "probably" couldn't win if he had gone all-out. Later we find out he lied because he told Vegeta he outright could have beaten Boo had he wanted to, but that's not really the point. The point is Piccolo noticed that Goku wasn't fighting all-out and felt the need to ask what he did, meaning there couldn't have been any big gap between Goku and Boo otherwise Piccolo would have been able to tell right away that Goku would be able to squash Boo.
As for Goku suppressing his power as a Super Saiyan 3, that's implausible based on what we know from the series. For starters, he said himself he was barely used to the form. Secondly, we've never seen an unmastered Super Saiyan suppress his power by any noticeable amount, and that form had far less strain than Super Saiyan 3, so it would be rather contradictory if Goku could suppress in a much more strenuous form than he could in one that didn't have all that much strain to begin with. Thirdly, there aren't any statements that support him actually being suppressed power-wise. It may look like he's suppressed, but truly being suppressed and pulling punches are two different things.
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in the Japanese version, Kaio-sama notes that an entity that is destroying the Southern Galaxy is stronger than Goku and everyone else and of course since Broly is currently being restricted by Paragus' device, it has to refer to RSSJ Broly.
SSj Broly>SSJ Boo Arc Goku is stated in a databook. Might be one of the Daiz. but not sure, I'm sure someone can give the exact statement to you.
I don't take this databook or the Daiz too seriously, I think I'll stick with what is shown on the actual show, and from what I could see a weaker base gohan was doing pretty good against broly who you think is stronger than a much stronger goku ssj from the buu saga
Daizenshuu 6 is a guidebook specifically made for the movies. It has a statement putting Super Saiyan Broly above Super Saiyan Goku (Boo arc). Meanwhile, the movies have the Base Saiyans performing unrealistic feats compared to their Super Saiyan selves. And you're going to ignore the guidebook and go with Toei's logic for the Base Saiyans. Why?
Why? Well in both movies it shows broly ssj fighting base sayains which seems to imply that he's not anywhere near as strong as the Daiz says, and I don't know about you but I think I'll go with what the movie shows, they way you said sounds kinda stupid, that's like your saying "why go with what the ACTUAL movie shows you when you can go with this guidebook that exaderates the he'll out of it But then again I may be wrong, I'll check out the Daiz again, I remember looking at it ages ago but I seen one stupid thing at the start so I got put of it. Can I ask who made it?
That's not what I'm saying.
Don't take what the Base Saiyans do seriously. That's almost common sense in Toei productions nowadays. They're always haxed.
You're also digging yourself into a hole either way. Movie 8 Kaio says Broly might be stronger than all of them. When Goku is teleporting through the galaxy, he lands on a busted planet and says he senses Broly's residual energy, and that was enough to make him think Kaio might be right. When he fights Broly at night, and Broly begins powering up, he says that's the Ki he was sensing. We know Broly was restricted by Paragus's headband, so:
RSSjin Broly (powered up) > MSSjin Goku > RSSjin Broly (initial) >/=/< Base Goku
Stated and shown.
Broly got a zenkai in Movie 10 that made his Legendary Super Saiyan power much stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan. Disregarding his fight with Base Gohan, where is it contradicted that he isn't stronger than Super Saiyan Goku (Boo arc) as a Super Saiyan? He already was in Movie 8, and that was when he was restricted, let alone at full power; so with a near-death power-up, he ends up weaker somehow?
Also, that mindset about the guidebooks is completely flawed. One mistake (that might not even be a mistake, you'll have to elaborate on it) shouldn't turn you away from an entire series of guidebooks with valuable information. I don't follow everything they say to the hilt, at least when something is blatantly contradicted like with some power levels, but they're still good to have around.
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Anime Base Vegito was Indeed Weaker than Anime Buuhan . its becoz Buuhan indirectly said that he was holding back
Thanks, that's what I thought
I may be mistaken, but Vegetto base was owning Buuhan. I'm sure that Buu was just bluffing saying he could beat him in ''full power''.
if he was bluffing , Vegito would never go SSj Vegito did realize that he cant beat him in base Maybe to make it easier for himself. Dude, he was mostly kicking his butt half the time and he was being cocky, like, ALL the time! Which means that he was in fact stronger, or even, A lot stronger than Buuhan.
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Yajarobi could be stronger than Roshi, but seeing that how Roshi overcomes him in both strength and speed. He defeted Drum due to his sword.
And remember that Korin is only a cat, but with wisdom and speed. So saying after Goku got water, he told Goku that you are already stronger then me. Same thing with Roshi, after getting the water he is supposed to be stronger than Korin right?
And if Yamcha was stronger then Saibamen, he wouldn't even had to die. Seeing how Piccolo sensed 1 coming from the Mountains. and then beating the sh** out of him, Yamcha is indeed weaker then Saibamen.
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Anime Base Vegito was Indeed Weaker than Anime Buuhan . its becoz Buuhan indirectly said that he was holding back
Thanks, that's what I thought
I may be mistaken, but Vegetto base was owning Buuhan. I'm sure that Buu was just bluffing saying he could beat him in ''full power''.
if he was bluffing , Vegito would never go SSj Vegito did realize that he cant beat him in base
Maybe to make it easier for himself. Dude, he was mostly kicking his butt half the time and he was being cocky, like, ALL the time! Which means that he was in fact stronger, or even, A lot stronger than Buuhan. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8385954/1/
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