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Kid buu vs tank buu
Topic Started: May 24 2013, 07:40 AM (2,453 Views)
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Where exactly is this stated again? If I remember correctly, nothing is said, nothing says whether he made Buu stronger or weaker.
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Daizenshuu, but if I remember correctly you disregard that.

As well as the narrative itself.
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Yeah, since I consider the manga as the number one canon, everything else we can take with a grain of salt. So where in the manga does it say the contrary of what I said?
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The opening post doesn't refer to the manga, it's referring to the anime. in the anime, Goku states that Kid Boo was on a completely different level from all the other Boo's they've faced so far. Meaning that, logic aside, Kid Buu is the strongest Boo Goku and the gang has faced. Kid Boo then absorbs Southern Kaioshin and gets stronger making Buff Boo the strongest Boo as far as the illogical anime is concerned.
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May 25 2013, 08:47 PM
Yeah, since I consider the manga as the number one canon, everything else we can take with a grain of salt. So where in the manga does it say the contrary of what I said?
Then we have nothing to discuss, dude. Personally, that's a pretty s***ty way of going about things, but to each their own.
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Not really, everything we need is in the manga, you should know that if the manga states one thing and the Daiz says something else, the manga wins automatic. You said, "it's literally stated that South Kaioshin didn't weaken Boo". I asked, "Where exactly is this stated again?" and you said the Daiz. But where in the manga does it state this? I don't hate the Daiz, but on topics like this, I don't se the need to use it when we something different in the manga.

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Does the anime state he got stronger after absorbing South Kaioshin? What is the exact quote? And I'm literally asking this because I don't remember their exact statements in the anime.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Considering they were making a note of Super Boo's power getting even stronger when he was reverting to Buff Boo, I'd yes. Either way one doesn't have to give a statement on whether or not it got him stronger because by default you have to assume that it indeed made him stronger. Likewise nobody that Boo has ever absorbed weakened him because of their power or something. When he absorbs Dai Kaioshin, Boo indeed gets stronger.

In fact Fat Boo's Full potential>Buff Boo>Super Boo. The issue is that Dai Kaioshin's influence keeps Fat Boo from ever reaching into that full potential he has inside of him.
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...nah I won't even continue, since this ain't about the manga and it's not that type of debate.
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Yeah buu! Go Buu! Majin Buu! Big Bad Buu!

Super Buu would logically be stronger then kid buu because kid buu was about SSJ3 Goku, In which isn't strong enough to cause any 'great' damage to super buu, Gotenks, In which is stronger, as an ssj3 was a little bit above even, And Buff Buu would be stronger, Take away the good influence of the kais and buff buu is stronger.
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In fact Fat Boo's Full potential>Buff Boo>Super Boo. The issue is that Dai Kaioshin's influence keeps Fat Boo from ever reaching into that full potential he has inside of him.
You...do realize that Fat Buu only exist because of Dai Kaio right? So it's impossible for Fat Buu's potential to be higher than Super Buu since if he reaches his full potential, he would have broken Dai Kaio's influence and without that, you get Buff Buu or Kid Buu...erasing Fat Buu...
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Not sure what you mean.

Buff Boo>Super Boo, this is outright stated.

Buff Boo then absorbs Dai Kaioshin and becomes Fat Boo. It's specifically noted that Dai Kaioshin's power didn't weaken him, it was the heart and soul given to him that weakened Boo.

Therefore, if Fat Boo's soul never became innocent, he'd be dishing out more power than Buff Boo. It's the heart that weakened him, not the power. It wouldn't even make sense if we absorbing someone weakened a person unless some other force (in this case the heart and soul) had an adverse effect on the person's body. You add something, it gets bigger.

You don't do 1+1+2=2, that's illogical. And that's pretty much what Boo's absorption is, an additive and it's only because, as stated, the heart and soul given to him that he became weaker.
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He was still weakened, restricting him from utilizing all his powers and full potential. You said, "Fat Boo's Full potential>Buff Boo>Super Boo", that doesn't make sense because Dai Kaio weakened Buu regardless if it was his heart or power, he was still weakened.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Of course it makes sense.

If Buff Boo>Super Boo and Buff Boo Absorbs another person and becomes Fat Boo, then obviously Fat Boo's full potential>Buff Boo>Super Boo. The only reason it doesn't is because of the heart Dai Kaioshin gave Boo.
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Had it been someone else, then this makes sense, but you said it right there:
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The only reason it doesn't is because of the heart Dai Kaioshin gave Boo.
So because of this, Buu was weakened, so he cannot have more potential than Super Buu since Dai Kaioshin's pure innocence is restricting Buu from letting that happen. Had Buu absorbed someone else and not Dai Kaio, he wouldn't have been Fat Buu, it would have been some other Buu.
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Boo's power was weakened as well as his nature becoming more tame when he absorbed Dai Kaioshin. Look it up.
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