Mystic Goten vs Ssj4 Gohan

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Mystic Goten vs Ssj4 Gohan
Tweet Topic Started: May 21 2013, 02:11 PM (2,476 Views)
+ Majin Vegeta	May 21 2013, 02:11 PM Post #1
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Ok I believe that Mystic unlocking boost is stronger than ssj4,just my opinion and I was thinking what if Goten have his full potential past his limits and Gohan instead of Mustic power up get ssj4,who would win?Gohan is post Z-Sword and Goten is post rosat
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+ Emmeth	May 21 2013, 02:15 PM Post #2
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	SSJ4 is just a stronger potential unlock than Mystic. I think Gohan wins.
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+ Majin Vegeta	May 21 2013, 02:33 PM Post #3
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	So basically Ssj4 is a potential unlock that unlocks your potential and get you past his limits like Mystic form?
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~~Professor Gohan~~	May 21 2013, 02:35 PM Post #4
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Goten's hybrid potential ~ Gohan's hybrid potential. Kai Unlock(beyond limits) > SSJ4(limits) I don't know if they would have the same amount of dormant power which both the Kai Unlock and SSJ4 bring out the power from. Goten would have the power advantage but depending on how much of a 'beyond' boost he gets.. Gohan's skill and experience advantage may make up for that small power difference, if one. The same small power difference some people think with: Ultimate Gohan & SSJ4 Gohan. Edited by Professor Gohan, May 21 2013, 02:36 PM.



+ Majin Vegeta	May 21 2013, 02:52 PM Post #5
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	Professor Gohan May 21 2013, 02:35 PM Goten's hybrid potential ~ Gohan's hybrid potential. Kai Unlock(beyond limits) > SSJ4(limits) I don't know if they would have the same amount of dormant power which both the Kai Unlock and SSJ4 bring out the power from. Goten would have the power advantage but depending on how much of a 'beyond' boost he gets.. Gohan's skill and experience advantage may make up for that small power difference, if one. The same small power difference some people think with: Ultimate Gohan & SSJ4 Gohan. So in the end who will win in your opinion this battle ?
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~~Professor Gohan~~	May 21 2013, 02:57 PM Post #6
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Gohan still. Because I think their power gap will be small enough for his series of attacks that he has and experience to make up for that. Goten will have more power but I see him losing after giving Gohan a fight.



jonte9195	May 23 2013, 02:07 AM Post #7
RAT-TAT-TAT-TAT Posts: 1,326 Group: Member Member #8,099 Joined: August 10, 2012	I think goten wins easily. Gohan was far far above his limits. but this time he is at his limits Goten who has equal if not more Potential than gohan gets to go far far beyond his limits.
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SSJ	May 23 2013, 02:09 AM Post #8
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Goten takes this no problem. It seemed like the hybrids had enormous potential, and seeing that Goten reached such enormous power by a young age, I believe he has more potential than Gohan.



+ Pyrus	May 23 2013, 02:10 AM Post #9
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Super Saiyan 4 is basically a potential unlock. It doesn't go any further than that. "Mystic" or as I call it "Fantastic" is a potential unlock and then a lot more. It's much stronger than Super Saiyan 4. Thus, Fantastic Goten would likely be stronger than Super Saiyan 4 Gohan based on that. Edited by Pyrus, May 23 2013, 02:10 AM.
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~~Professor Gohan~~	May 23 2013, 02:16 AM Post #10
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Fantastic Goten? Haha!!!



TheACE	May 23 2013, 02:23 AM Post #11
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Is that what we're calling it? Ok fair enough, but I don't see Goten WINNING a fight against Gohan, not solo. I mean, sure, they were panting and sweating during training. But it's training. That's what you do. It's the same thing as running the treadmill or hitting the heavy bag with your little nephew. You get winded, he gets winded, but he's not gonna bust you down in a fight. Yeah Gohan was training hard, but he wasn't trying to break his little brother's neck, he was training him and getting his own skills back to par. Goten's tough, sure, but the only solo fight he's ever been in was against Trunks and he still managed to lose that. He's got three attacks, two of which were taught to him by Gohan, and there's nothing he can do to surprise him. Gohan's got plenty of power, battlefield experience, and is radically smarter than Goten (Far as we know, but aside from looking like and acting like a 7 year old Goku, we know little about Goten). Odds on, Gohan's son of Son that holds a solid win.
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+ Pyrus	May 23 2013, 02:43 AM Post #12
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	TheACE May 23 2013, 02:23 AM Is that what we're calling it? Ok fair enough, but I don't see Goten WINNING a fight against Gohan, not solo. I mean, sure, they were panting and sweating during training. But it's training. That's what you do. It's the same thing as running the treadmill or hitting the heavy bag with your little nephew. You get winded, he gets winded, but he's not gonna bust you down in a fight. Yeah Gohan was training hard, but he wasn't trying to break his little brother's neck, he was training him and getting his own skills back to par. Goten's tough, sure, but the only solo fight he's ever been in was against Trunks and he still managed to lose that. He's got three attacks, two of which were taught to him by Gohan, and there's nothing he can do to surprise him. Gohan's got plenty of power, battlefield experience, and is radically smarter than Goten (Far as we know, but aside from looking like and acting like a 7 year old Goku, we know little about Goten). Odds on, Gohan's son of Son that holds a solid win. Goten only lost to Trunks based on a tournament rule. In this fight that rule wouldn't exist. I'm sure if their fight had gone on, either Trunks would've had to have tricked Goten or he would've lost fairly since despite his minor power advantage, Goten might've been more skilled in martial arts. And if the gap is big enough between Goten and Gohan, it wouldn't matter if Goten isn't as smart as his older brother.
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IllogicalGlory	May 23 2013, 03:01 AM Post #13
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Darth Pyrus May 23 2013, 02:10 AM "Mystic" or as I call it "Fantastic" is a potential unlock and then a lot more. It's much stronger than Super Saiyan 4. Man, that don't make an ounce of sense. If Mystic is better, then why didn't Elder Kai, oh I don't know, use that instead? It's not like it would have taken any longer than his initial plan to regrow Goku's tail. SSJ4 must hold some advantage over mystic.



+ Pyrus	May 23 2013, 03:02 AM Post #14
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	IllogicalGlory May 23 2013, 03:01 AM Darth Pyrus May 23 2013, 02:10 AM "Mystic" or as I call it "Fantastic" is a potential unlock and then a lot more. It's much stronger than Super Saiyan 4. Man, that don't make an ounce of sense. If Mystic is better, then why didn't Elder Kai, oh I don't know, use that instead? It's not like it would have taken any longer than his initial plan to regrow Goku's tail. SSJ4 must hold some advantage over mystic. I can't remember. Haha. Maybe CC will have input on this. I'm a bit too busy right now to go upstairs and rewatch the episode(s) this is talked about.
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TheACE	May 23 2013, 03:27 AM Post #15
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Darth Pyrus May 23 2013, 02:43 AM Goten only lost to Trunks based on a tournament rule. In this fight that rule wouldn't exist. I'm sure if their fight had gone on, either Trunks would've had to have tricked Goten or he would've lost fairly since despite his minor power advantage, Goten might've been more skilled in martial arts. And if the gap is big enough between Goten and Gohan, it wouldn't matter if Goten isn't as smart as his older brother. Nah I'mma call you on that one. Trunks is physically stronger, he's faster and ultimately smarter and has a wider variety of techniques and skills. He outclasses Goten in every category, so that's a solid win. And that's a damned big IF. Intellegence is a statistic. As is physical strength, durability, staminia and overall skill. Even if the Goten's intellegence doesn't matter, his skill or lack thereof will. Again, all of his training is Gohan and Chi-Chi's at this point. Chi-Chi's style is a diluted version of Kame-Sennin Ryu learned by the Ox King and Gohan's is a combination of Kame Sennin Ryu and Evil & Dragon Tribe Namekian Styles. There is NOTHING Goten can do to gain a significant edge in the Martial Arts or strategically. I mean if we're rocking potential vs potential (Although I'm still convinced that the Super Saiyan Four Form is a multiplier and not a set power level like Mystic...) then at best Goten and Gohan are dead even. So ultimately it comes down to who the better fighter, best tactician and finally the most adaptable. And historically, that's Gohan. He's experienced, he's intelligent, he's talented, he's a full-fledged master, he's Son Mother Loving Gohan and he's not gonna get his arse beat by his seven year old brother.
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