Future Trunks (Budokai 2) vs Dabura (Buu Arc)

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Future Trunks (Budokai 2) vs Dabura (Buu Arc)
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TheACE	May 21 2013, 02:55 AM Post #1
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Future Trunks returns to the past during the Buu Saga to help Goku and the gang pick up the slack. And instead of letting Gohan fight Dabura, Trunks steps it up. Ascended Saiyan (SS2 for the number lovers) Future Trunks vs Demonic Will Demon King Dabura (Dabura Full power) Rules So Trunks can transform into all of his Canon super saiyan forms as well as the Ascended Form as well as his sword. Dabura maintains his power, and his sword. Death Battle Rules, last man standing In character. Dabura's evil and Trunks' normal sense of no nonsense decisive action. Background (Optional, don't read if you don't want) If you haven't played DBZ Budokai 2, notice that DIMPS made the mistake of giving Trunks the Super Saiyan 2 Capsule, making him an Ascended Saiyan. While he never acheives this in the anime, and this is why many regard it as a mistake, I see no reason that Future Trunks COULDN'T do this. He's just as badass and talented as Goku, Vegeta or Gohan, if not more so. I think it was an attempt to give Dragon Ball a form of an expanded universe (which fans don't seem to like for some reason). Back to the Action: But anyway, who takes this?
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+ Pyrus	May 21 2013, 03:03 AM Post #2
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Trunks would obliterate Dabura with a single blast as a Super Saiyan 2. He wouldn't be Kid Gohan strength or anything, but he'd probably be on par with Teen Gohan or somewhere in that general area, and that'd be enough to humiliate Dabura.
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IllogicalGlory	May 21 2013, 03:18 AM Post #3
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	He'd probably be about equal to a pre-majin SSJ2 Vegeta, if Trunks had the same 7 years to train. Dabura gets finger flicked and vaporized, even anime Dabura.



+ Pyrus	May 21 2013, 03:37 AM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	IllogicalGlory May 21 2013, 03:18 AM He'd probably be about equal to a pre-majin SSJ2 Vegeta, if Trunks had the same 7 years to train. Dabura gets finger flicked and vaporized, even anime Dabura. I disagree. Trunks had an entire world to help rebuild, which would certainly take up some of his time. Vegeta had the whole seven years to just train.
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IllogicalGlory	May 21 2013, 03:43 AM Post #5
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 03:37 AM I disagree. Trunks had an entire world to help rebuild, which would certainly take up some of his time. Vegeta had the whole seven years to just train. True, but he'd still beat Dabura handily with SSJ2. He'd probably get to about Cell Games Goku level give or take if he can only train about half as much as Vegeta.



+ Pyrus	May 21 2013, 03:45 AM Post #6
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	IllogicalGlory May 21 2013, 03:43 AM Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 03:37 AM I disagree. Trunks had an entire world to help rebuild, which would certainly take up some of his time. Vegeta had the whole seven years to just train. True, but he'd still beat Dabura handily with SSJ2. He'd probably get to about Cell Games Goku level give or take if he can only train about half as much as Vegeta. Yeah, that I could definitely see happening. Trunks isn't the smartest trainer either, so that would contribute to him not making as much progress as Vegeta or Goku. He had a ways to go just to get to Cell Games Goku in the first place. To surpass him with his time constraints would be a pretty big feat. Edited by Pyrus, May 21 2013, 03:46 AM.
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IllogicalGlory	May 21 2013, 04:06 AM Post #7
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 03:45 AM Trunks isn't the smartest trainer either, so that would contribute to him not making as much progress as Vegeta or Goku. He had a ways to go just to get to Cell Games Goku in the first place. To surpass him with his time constraints would be a pretty big feat. Trunks trained on his own in the RoSaT; the Vegeta and Trunks definitely did not spar with each other, nor did Vegeta try to teach his son how to be better. So either Trunks is actually pretty good (since he kept pace with Vegeta) or he just learned good training from watching Vegeta. Either way, he's as good a trainer as his father is. Given the same amount of time, their increases will be almost identical. Edited by IllogicalGlory, May 21 2013, 04:06 AM.



+ Pyrus	May 21 2013, 04:12 AM Post #8
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	IllogicalGlory May 21 2013, 04:06 AM Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 03:45 AM Trunks isn't the smartest trainer either, so that would contribute to him not making as much progress as Vegeta or Goku. He had a ways to go just to get to Cell Games Goku in the first place. To surpass him with his time constraints would be a pretty big feat. Trunks trained on his own in the RoSaT; the Vegeta and Trunks definitely did not spar with each other, nor did Vegeta try to teach his son how to be better. So either Trunks is actually pretty good (since he kept pace with Vegeta) or he just learned good training from watching Vegeta. Either way, he's as good a trainer as his father is. Given the same amount of time, their increases will be almost identical. I guess I should say he isn't the brightest bulb when it comes to fighting.
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IllogicalGlory	May 21 2013, 04:16 AM Post #9
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 04:12 AM I guess I should say he isn't the brightest bulb when it comes to fighting. Eh, he only made one mistake, and it's not like any other tactic would have worked better. Neither he nor his father were any match for Cell. I don't fault Trunks for his failing to SSJgr3's weaknesses; if anything it was at least worth a shot. At least he was able to see that Cell's Perfect Form would be stronger than him.



Vertical	May 21 2013, 04:16 AM Post #10
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	IllogicalGlory May 21 2013, 04:06 AM Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 03:45 AM Trunks isn't the smartest trainer either, so that would contribute to him not making as much progress as Vegeta or Goku. He had a ways to go just to get to Cell Games Goku in the first place. To surpass him with his time constraints would be a pretty big feat. Trunks trained on his own in the RoSaT; the Vegeta and Trunks definitely did not spar with each other, nor did Vegeta try to teach his son how to be better. So either Trunks is actually pretty good (since he kept pace with Vegeta) or he just learned good training from watching Vegeta. Either way, he's as good a trainer as his father is. Given the same amount of time, their increases will be almost identical. Barring the huge differences in motivation and time use. Trunks has no Androids/Cell/Big Bad to defeat and the Hybrids seem to lack the innate drive the Pure-Bloods have to improve themselves, so his motivation to improve would wane. Also, he's attempting to rebuild a broken world which would occupy the majority of his time. OT: It is my belief that SSJ2 Trunks, with or without improvement from his Cell Games self, would destroy Dabura.
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TheACE	May 21 2013, 04:17 AM Post #11
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 04:12 AM IllogicalGlory May 21 2013, 04:06 AM Darth Pyrus May 21 2013, 03:45 AM Trunks isn't the smartest trainer either, so that would contribute to him not making as much progress as Vegeta or Goku. He had a ways to go just to get to Cell Games Goku in the first place. To surpass him with his time constraints would be a pretty big feat. Trunks trained on his own in the RoSaT; the Vegeta and Trunks definitely did not spar with each other, nor did Vegeta try to teach his son how to be better. So either Trunks is actually pretty good (since he kept pace with Vegeta) or he just learned good training from watching Vegeta. Either way, he's as good a trainer as his father is. Given the same amount of time, their increases will be almost identical. I guess I should say he isn't the brightest bulb when it comes to fighting. I guess he's not the same type of fighting genius Goku is, but I always thought that Trunks was a pretty good tactician. His tactic was usually "See an advantage? Atomize everything in that opening," but if he had an advantage he never lost a fight. And he didn't waste time patting his ego like Vegeta did, he just fought quickly, decisively and efficiently. Not "Fighting Genius" but definitely smart. But technically Trunks is just an intelligent guy in general so I see where you're coming from.
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IllogicalGlory	May 21 2013, 04:31 AM Post #12
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Unlike Vegeta, Trunks believed (erroneously) that he had some power to fall back on, yet he still worked as hard as he could to avoid facing an unknown opponent. That's not exactly straight fighting-related, but he still sees things much more clearly than Vegeta does; he knows that there's no reason to fight someone if you don't have to.



TheACE	May 21 2013, 03:48 PM Post #13
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Good deal. Well Glory I guess I can't come up with a creative evenly matched fight like you can. Consensus Curbstomp for Future Trunks? Very well, on to the next one. Maybe this time one of my Star Wars &/or Transformers vs DB fights will take off (And maybe Aquaman will drown)
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+ Pyrus	May 21 2013, 03:54 PM Post #14
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	TheACE May 21 2013, 03:48 PM Good deal. Well Glory I guess I can't come up with a creative evenly matched fight like you can. Consensus Curbstomp for Future Trunks? Very well, on to the next one. Maybe this time one of my Star Wars &/or Transformers vs DB fights will take off (And maybe Aquaman will drown) I think it's just because most of this board doesn't think Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 during his fight with Dabura, so Dabura doesn't need to be very strong at all.
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* Yu Narukami	May 21 2013, 04:06 PM Post #15
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	People have different views on Trunks. On the one hand, he's helping to rebuild and doesn't have the pure Saiyan's innate want to fight. On the other hand, wouldn't he be cautious enough to train for any threats in the future? He knows that dawdling and 'getting weak in times of peace' (as Gohan did) is a fatal move. Regardless, Trunks would take it, even at his regular CG level.



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