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MSSJ Vegeta vs. Perfect Cell @ Goku; Read Description
Topic Started: May 19 2013, 04:10 PM (1,122 Views)
SuperSaiyan1993 May 19 2013, 04:10 PM Post #1
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 SSJ Vegeta (Android saga) > SSJ Goku (Hypotheical Healthy Android saga)

Perfect Cell @ Goku >/> MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

Have Vegeta make the same gains Goku made in the Rosat -- ascertaining MSSJ and garnering the same power boost.

This should have: MSSJ Vegeta > MSSJ Goku (Cell Games)

Even with IT Kamehameha, Goku basically lost due to the strain (had the fight continued)

Can Vegeta win? And if he can, by how much?

EDIT: Cell cannot raise his power above Cell @ Goku pl

Edited by SuperSaiyan1993, May 20 2013, 07:24 PM.
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DSB May 19 2013, 04:13 PM Post #2
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Vegeta is still no match for Cell

Maybe vegeta will go longer than goku , but will still fail to beat cell
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Frostmourne May 19 2013, 04:30 PM Post #3
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 Tbh I don't think first off the difference between android Vegeta and android healthy Goku was that big. Vegeta would have probably have the power advantage, as he was stronger and Goku was on par with supressed Perfect Cell at that time. But Cell would win in the end. He got way more attacks and cells from the others. Ofc including Vegeta himself, just prolly a worse galic gun amp or any other attacks. But still, he would win. He got the cells which helps him greatly. For example the Frieza resiliance and the fighting cells of the saiyans and the intelligence from the namekian. Vegeta may be a bit stronger, but it wouldn't matter that much in this fight. It would have nearly turned the same as the Goku fight. Vegeta would have been tired and would have his power slipping away. While Cell's power drops aswell, but not as fast as Vegeta's. But no way he is taking on a higher powerlevel than that. Cell at his full power is still a monster for Vegeta.
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+ Majin Vegeta May 19 2013, 04:39 PM Post #4
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 Vegeta will manage to hold his own for longer than Goku did he will be like Cell was before Goku gives up the same,but if they continue fighting Cell has more tricks and techniques than Vegeta so I still give it to Cell after an amazing battle
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TheACE May 19 2013, 05:15 PM Post #5
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 I always figured that a Full Powered Super Saiyan Vegeta would functionally be about the same as Super Vegeta only without the muscles and speed loss. Tough, but not quite Perfect Cell tough, if only for Cell's regen. That and Vegeta's previous match will Cell proves that even with four minutes of prep and Cell sitting completely still, he still couldn't hit him dead on with a 100 mile wide beam, and hence Veggie's gonna fall short. Piccolo and Trunks too, they're both cripplingly overspecialized.

Battle ultimately goes to a winded, but unscathed Cell.
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SSJ May 19 2013, 10:25 PM Post #6
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 I can see Vegeta getting something done here.

Android saga:

Goku: 700
Vegeta: 750

= 1.07x gap

Cell games

MSSJ Goku: 1000
MSSJ Vegeta: 1071
Cell @ Goku: 1100

A direct final flash wins IMO, but he still has a chance either way.
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* Crashbreaka May 19 2013, 10:45 PM Post #7
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 I think it'd be practically dead even. Could go both ways IMO.
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+ Pyrus May 19 2013, 11:02 PM Post #8
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 Cell would still be superior power-wise and there's no way he'd get hit by a Final Flash. He'd eventually win.
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+ Solid Snake May 19 2013, 11:58 PM Post #9
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 I don't really believe Vegeta was as strong as everyone thinks. Even though Piccolo said that Vegeta could be stronger, there's another side saying that the gap was small and when I say small I mean the SSJ3 Goku vs Majin Buu and SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu small. Vegeta barely made any real progress and plus Trunks was still around Vegeta as well and we know Goku was stronger than him.
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+ Pyrus May 20 2013, 12:02 AM Post #10
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May 19 2013, 11:58 PM
I don't really believe Vegeta was as strong as everyone thinks. Even though Piccolo said that Vegeta could be stronger, there's another side saying that the gap was small and when I say small I mean the SSJ3 Goku vs Majin Buu and SSJ3 Goku vs Kid Buu small. Vegeta barely made any real progress and plus Trunks was still around Vegeta as well and we know Goku was stronger than him.
The gap is still there regardless. None of us are saying it's a stomp gap.
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BioBroly288 May 20 2013, 03:00 AM Post #11
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 The battle goes to cell even if FPSSJ Vegeta was stronger than FPSSJ Goku it wouldnt be by a huge amount (very little infact). Cell only used about 50% of his Max Power to figth Goku, if Vegeta wasto figth him he would probably do just as good as FPSSJ Gohan or even better but if Cell Goes 60% or Higher CEll will curb stomp him as Vegeta is known for losing his cool when he is angry

My guess is that
50% Cell would lose to This hypethetical Vegeta

Any thing higher than that, Cell wins
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SuperSaiyan1993 May 20 2013, 07:22 PM Post #12
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 Why does everyone like to downplay Vegeta on the Android saga?

I'm not saying the power gap is large, but Vegeta did train at 300x gravity, whereas Goku trained with opponents vastly weaker than himself and people still like to think Goku is about equal even though he inputted nowhere near the effort Vegeta did.

In my perspective, if Goku can almost pull out a win at a lower power (IT Kamehameha), Vegeta can win with an equal or stronger power against Cell.

After the fight of his life, Vegeta kills Cell @ Goku assuming of course Cell cannot raise his power and no regen induced returns
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+ Solid Snake May 20 2013, 09:00 PM Post #13
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May 20 2013, 07:22 PM
Why does everyone like to downplay Vegeta on the Android saga?

I'm not saying the power gap is large, but Vegeta did train at 300x gravity, whereas Goku trained with opponents vastly weaker than himself and people still like to think Goku is about equal even though he inputted nowhere near the effort Vegeta did.

In my perspective, if Goku can almost pull out a win at a lower power (IT Kamehameha), Vegeta can win with an equal or stronger power against Cell.

After the fight of his life, Vegeta kills Cell @ Goku assuming of course Cell cannot raise his power and no regen induced returns
I don't believe that, simply because if Piccolo was able to catch up to a Super Saiyan or have strength around a Super Saiyan (in general) then Goku must be vastly more powerful to be above Vegeta a bit. And Given that Piccolo's a good fighter he should be able to help Goku's base a lot and when Goku goes SSJ it should give Goku and exceptional boost in power.
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+ Pyrus May 20 2013, 09:01 PM Post #14
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May 20 2013, 09:00 PM
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May 20 2013, 07:22 PM
Why does everyone like to downplay Vegeta on the Android saga?

I'm not saying the power gap is large, but Vegeta did train at 300x gravity, whereas Goku trained with opponents vastly weaker than himself and people still like to think Goku is about equal even though he inputted nowhere near the effort Vegeta did.

In my perspective, if Goku can almost pull out a win at a lower power (IT Kamehameha), Vegeta can win with an equal or stronger power against Cell.

After the fight of his life, Vegeta kills Cell @ Goku assuming of course Cell cannot raise his power and no regen induced returns
I don't believe that, simply because if Piccolo was able to catch up to a Super Saiyan or have strength around a Super Saiyan (in general) then Goku must be vastly more powerful to be above Vegeta a bit. And Given that Piccolo's a good fighter he should be able to help Goku's base a lot and when Goku goes SSJ it should give Goku and exceptional boost in power.
You mean below Vegeta by a bit.
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+ Solid Snake May 20 2013, 09:11 PM Post #15
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May 20 2013, 09:01 PM
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May 20 2013, 09:00 PM
supersaiyan1993
May 20 2013, 07:22 PM
Why does everyone like to downplay Vegeta on the Android saga?

I'm not saying the power gap is large, but Vegeta did train at 300x gravity, whereas Goku trained with opponents vastly weaker than himself and people still like to think Goku is about equal even though he inputted nowhere near the effort Vegeta did.

In my perspective, if Goku can almost pull out a win at a lower power (IT Kamehameha), Vegeta can win with an equal or stronger power against Cell.

After the fight of his life, Vegeta kills Cell @ Goku assuming of course Cell cannot raise his power and no regen induced returns
I don't believe that, simply because if Piccolo was able to catch up to a Super Saiyan or have strength around a Super Saiyan (in general) then Goku must be vastly more powerful to be above Vegeta a bit. And Given that Piccolo's a good fighter he should be able to help Goku's base a lot and when Goku goes SSJ it should give Goku and exceptional boost in power.
You mean below Vegeta by a bit.
No I meant above.
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