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SSJ2 Gohan VS SSJ2 Vegeta; World Tournament
Topic Started: May 17 2013, 11:44 AM (868 Views)
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SSJ2 Gohan VS SSJ2 Gohan during the World Tournament. Before Vegeta gets more powerful due to the Majin Curse.

Considering Gohan was MSSJ against Dabura. In regards to what Vegeta was moaning about.
And apparently Supreme Kai had been monitoring the Earth. As he says SSJ2 Gohan is still the strongest fighter at this Tournament after Vegeta says he was stronger as a kid, and Vegeta doesn't protest in any way. (Couldn't have monitored Goku as was not on Earth.)

Personally I think: SSJ2 Gohan is slightly more powerful than SSJ2 Vegeta at the Tournament.
But SSJ2 Vegeta is the more skilled fighter.

Even with Gohan getting slightly weaker over the time skip. Vegeta was massively below Gohan at the Cell Games.
I think he came very close to closing the gap, but wasn't quite there yet.

What are your thoughts?
Edited by Raiken, May 17 2013, 11:45 AM.
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Your thoughts are good and maybe there right but I disagree on that Dabura was toying around with Mssj Gohan and Vegeta said he coult take him pretty easily also Vegeta mentions that Gohan is much weaker than him and Goku on the budokai Gohan was a ssj2 and that's why he had an advantage over Goku and Vegeta remember now no one knew that Goku and Vegeta were at ssj2 and they didn't want to say that,so that why Supreme Kai says Gohan is the strongest he was a ssj2 while the others thought that there maximum is Ssj,there level of powers was pretty close ssj2 Gohan hardly noticed>Ssj Goku or Vegeta,and Vegeta wasn't that far behind than Gohan if they were both in base I have Gohan cell games 3x times or maybe 4x times base Vegeta after 7 years of only training and Zenkais he easily surpasses that no sweat at all ssj2 Vegeta for me will be overkill for ssj2 Gohan if his Ssj is barely below Gohan's ssj2(mentioned by Vegeta)
-Ha Gohan's power are way below than ours he's much weaker than he was as a kid both of us can take him out easily now!(the others were not knowdest of Vegetas ssj2 until the fight began with Goku,Gohan said it himshelf)however Kai says that he's wrong and his still the stronget even for a little,just my thoughts
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May 17 2013, 12:26 PM
Your thoughts are good and maybe there right but I disagree on that Dabura was toying around with Mssj Gohan and Vegeta said he coult take him pretty easily no one was knowdest about Vegetas ssj2 powers,also Vegeta mentions that Gohan is much weaker than him and Goku on the budokai Gohan was a ssj2 and that's why he had an advantage over Goku and Vegeta remember now no one knew that Goku and Vegeta were at ssj2 and they didn't want to say that,so that why Supreme Kai says Gohan is the strongest he was a ssj2 while the others thought that there maximum is Ssj,there level of powers was pretty close ssj2 Gohan hardly noticed>Ssj Goku or Vegeta,and Vegeta wasn't that far behind than Gohan if they were both in base I have Gohan cell games 3x times or maybe 4x times base Vegeta after 7 years of only training and Zenkais he easily surpasses that no sweat at all ssj2 Vegeta for me will be overkill for ssj2 Gohan if his Ssj is barely below Gohan's ssj2(mentioned by Vegeta)
-Ha Gohan's power are way below than ours he's much weaker than he was as a kid both of us can take him out easily now!(the others were not knowdest of Vegetas ssj2 until the fight began with Goku,Gohan said it himshelf)however Kai says that he's wrong and his still the stronget even for a little,just my thoughts

Also Vegeta is stronger than Gohan Cell games with his Majin spell maybe a lot and Gohan Budokai is wayyy weaker than his counterpart on Cell games
Edited by Majin Vegeta, May 17 2013, 12:28 PM.
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SSj2 pre Majin Vegeta vs SSj2 Teen Gohan [@ Budokai] ?

Vegeta Wrecks him easily
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Vegeta outright states that Gohan is far weaker now than he was a child. Not slightly, not a tiny bit, but far weaker. The same Vegeta then proceeds to throw one of the biggest ragefested fits over the fact that Gohan is so incredibly terribly weak that he can't stand it. I mean there two things that made Vegeta decide to screw the world.

A.) Being weaker than kakrot.

B.) Gohan being so ungodly terrible weak and such a disappointing wreck that Vegeta was about to snap a baby kitten's neck and have entire populations murders out of sheer spite.

That's how weak Gohan got. They don't just say he got a bit weaker, or slightly weaker he got, and I quote...

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Vegeta: “Unfortunately, it seems he got carried away in peace and didn’t do any significant training. Our powers are higher than his now…Though I suppose there’s no telling what would happen if he snapped and went into a frenzy… ”


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Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabra fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? [Dabra]’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”


You have outright statements that directly point that Vegeta is stronger. And note the first quote is when Gohan actually uses SSj2 and Vegeta states then and there that he's stronger.
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B.) Gohan being so ungodly terrible weak and such a disappointing wreck that Vegeta was about to snap a baby kitten's neck and have entire populations murders out of sheer spite.


This , i dont understand
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May 17 2013, 12:52 PM
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B.) Gohan being so ungodly terrible weak and such a disappointing wreck that Vegeta was about to snap a baby kitten's neck and have entire populations murders out of sheer spite.


This , i dont understand
Vegeta was pissed because Gohan couldn't handle an opponent that was at most barely at SSJ Kid Gohan's level, a person he had surpassed already. He was tired of Gohan being such a letdown and wanted to get things done himself, blew his temper, got Dabura's attention and thus the whole Majin Vegeta point otok place. That's how weak Gohan got, to the point where Vegeta couldn't even control himself anymore and blew his fuse.
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Gohan's not HIS Kid , its his rival's

Shouldnt it be a reason for vegeta to be happy ?
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May 17 2013, 01:04 PM
Gohan's not HIS Kid , its his rival's

Shouldnt it be a reason for vegeta to be happy ?
Are you even on the same subject? Vegeta was pissed at Gohan because he was so weak and couldn't defeat someone of Dabura's caliber.
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May 17 2013, 01:32 PM
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May 17 2013, 01:04 PM
Gohan's not HIS Kid , its his rival's

Shouldnt it be a reason for vegeta to be happy ?
Are you even on the same subject? Vegeta was pissed at Gohan because he was so weak and couldn't defeat someone of Dabura's caliber.
im going a little off topic intentionally becoz i find this weird that Vegeta is angry to see his rival's son weak

anyway , please carry on
Edited by DSB, May 17 2013, 01:44 PM.
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In this case he is, he's ticked that Gohan's so weak because it's basically wasting his time. He's got important things to do, pay the bills, wash the car, defeat Kakarot. He's got not time for Gohan to fight and as the statements given suggest, lose against Dabura. A guy he could probably break in half between his eyelids.
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Pre or majin, Vegeta stated that he and Goku surpassed Gohan. Gohan didn't train at all in the past seven years and has probably much worse fighting skills than Vegeta, who trained in the seven years. As he trained so hard that he achieved the SSJ2 I belive. He got much better. Vegeta wins.
Edited by Frostmourne, May 17 2013, 02:28 PM.
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It was stated that Gohan had fallen far below the adults by the time the Boo arc began.
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