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Topic Started: May 14 2013, 11:01 PM (508 Views)
IllogicalGlory
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Goten, Trunks, Vegeta, and Pan achieved and/or mastered SSJ3?
Elder Kai's power up saw more use (like with Uub or Pan)?
Gohan had not been a super saiyan?
The early shadow dragons were less stupid? (there were stupid villains in Z, like Pui Pui, but never ones as stupid as Haze/Rage/Naturon Shenron)
SSJ4 never existed/had a different design?
Baby's tuffle origins weren't blatantly tacked on (wait haven't we seen a tuffle machine that's meant to kill sayians before?)?
Kibitoshin had made use of Elder Kai's power up and actually helped out?
Gotenks had made a few appearances?
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I will say I would have liked it significantly better if Gohan didn't have SSj, Gotenks showed up, the Shadow Dragons weren't stupid and Baby wasn't so lame at times. GT was a giant plothole all about kid Goku. Ugh...
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I don't mind the SSJ4 or the Shadow Dragons. It would have been nice for Gotenks to be in GT. What I really would have liked from GT is Goku not being a kid. It was a desperate and lame attempt to keep him as the hero. Goten and Trunks should have taken the responsibility as Earth's protectors. Let Vegeta and Goku fall back a bit.
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It was also to provide more comedic relief than Z had and make it more lighthearted. GT's overall tone was very different from the rest of Dragonball and I think that alienated a lot of the viewers and created much of the disdain for GT.
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if pan could have reached ssj3 I would throw the tv off/ she is overrated as ****
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May 20 2013, 10:28 PM
I will say I would have liked it significantly better if Gohan didn't have SSj, Gotenks showed up, the Shadow Dragons weren't stupid and Baby wasn't so lame at times. GT was a giant plothole all about kid Goku. Ugh...


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-The boys and Gohan achieving SSJ3 would be too much.
-Elder Kai power up for Pan and Oob. Hell yeah. That would be an awesome explanation for things. Or something else Elder Kai has to bring to the table.
-Gohan being a SSJ again is badass. What are ya'll thinking he shouldn't be. It shows how hard he worked his a** off to unlock something that wasn't suppose to be unlockable anymore. And something that was a struggle trying to unlock when he was just a kid. And he gets to be stronger. Yuup.
-The Shadow Dragons could of been way better. Minds would be blown if they had more work and time.
-Never existing is the first priority. A different design and way of introducing it wouldn't be bad as well.
-I don't mind Baby's story. Better than Hatchback's.
-Just seeing more of Kibitoshin and his Godly role would be awesome. He shined when he was sneaking around the Palace like a cat burglar, trying to get the water for everyone.
-Gotenks appearing to help out at any point in time helps the series mostly-just like Adult Goku would.
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-Gohan being a SSJ again is badass. What are ya'll thinking he shouldn't be. It shows how hard he worked his a** off to unlock something that wasn't suppose to be unlockable anymore. And something that was a struggle trying to unlock when he was just a kid. And he gets to be stronger. Yuup.
It would have been a lot better if his aura looked different (to denote his unique power up) or if they had at least acknowledged the power up he received during the Boo saga.

Also, more SSJ2 with lightning would have been cool.
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See, that I don't mind agreeing with. That would actually set his whole SSj/2 transformation off again. Yeah, good one on that.

They just need to make SSj2 more out there, used, and known than what they already did.
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IllogicalGlory
May 14 2013, 11:01 PM
Goten, Trunks, Vegeta, and Pan achieved and/or mastered SSJ3?
Elder Kai's power up saw more use (like with Uub or Pan)?
Gohan had not been a super saiyan?
The early shadow dragons were less stupid? (there were stupid villains in Z, like Pui Pui, but never ones as stupid as Haze/Rage/Naturon Shenron)
SSJ4 never existed/had a different design?
Baby's tuffle origins weren't blatantly tacked on (wait haven't we seen a tuffle machine that's meant to kill sayians before?)?
Kibitoshin had made use of Elder Kai's power up and actually helped out?
Gotenks had made a few appearances?
I'll answer in order. I'm kinda in Prof's camp for this one, but I'm a bit more of a purist.

1. No. I liked them running on their own power and still being forces to be reckoned with. To be fair I'm not fond of Saiyan Ascended Even Further Beyond.

2. No. Gohan was unique in having the Ultimate Transfomation, and I like characters having unique powers and abilities. Just more interesting.

3. Eh... take or leave it. I didn't mind it, but it wasn't a huge deal.

4. I thought the Shadow Dragons being goofy vs the serious ones worked for a foil. Most of the Goofy Dragons were sillier and lighter Dragon Ball wishes versus the darker and more complex DBZ wishes, so I think it's a good homage to the series their responding too. Otherwise I think it would have gotten repetative.

5. Nope, I dig Super Saiyan Four. Maybe just a red aura like in Budokai 3, but otherwise I love DBGT's Quintessential form of Super Saiyan.

6. He deserved an episode all about it, but I like that he's a Tuffle. It gave him some motivation that made sense. Better than Babidi and Buu's anyway.

7. No. Kibito Kai is a God and shouldn't interfere at the level he does as is. I think it woulda been cool to give him a winnable fight or two, but that's it.

8. Oh I miss Gotenks! Once or twice as a last resort, kinda like I wish I saw 1 or 2 more Gogeta apperances. Gotenks is what made Buu's Arc BEARABLE for me.
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@ACE Just a random question. Why do you say:
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rather than SSJ2, SSJ3, etc? That would be a pain in the neck to type, and it's a really clunky term.
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IllogicalGlory
May 21 2013, 02:00 AM
@ACE Just a random question. Why do you say:
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Saiyan Ascended Even Further Beyond
rather than SSJ2, SSJ3, etc? That would be a pain in the neck to type, and it's a really clunky term.
I don't like those words. I thought that Piccolo, Vegeta and Trunks worked hard and named the Super Saiyan forms appropriately. In fact, if Trunks had achieved "Super Saiyan Three" it would have a real name instead of a number. The number just seems so lazy and I think it devalues the legendary feeling the transformation has. And it's only because Goku keeps finding them and naming them (Let's be honest, Goku's never been the sharpest tool on his very best day.)

So yeah, I go with the Even Further Beyond and Ascended Saiyan terms that Piccolo described them as. Just feels more appropriate you know? (That and the numbers seem to originate from the Buu Saga, which as you know isn't my favorite saga)

Fun Fact: I acknowledge Super Saiyan Four as the real name since Old Kai was the first to mention it and Goku DIDN'T try naming it. Since Old Kai actually knew what it was first and called it Super Saiyan Four by name, I'm inclined to believe it's the real deal. I however still spell it out. Same deal with Super Saiyan God Mode (Again, as we discussed in the game forum, it looks a hell of a lot more like a mode than a real transformation).
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