Boo saga comparative levels

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Boo saga comparative levels
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IllogicalGlory	May 14 2013, 03:17 AM Post #1
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Comparative list; Boo saga The characters are sorted by saiyans/other characters/villains ---that means that the powers are not listed in the order they appear Multipliers SSJ: 21-23x - always in that range SSJ2: 4x SSJ3: 5x Saiyans Gohan: 120 (190 during the Cell Games) ---SSJ: 2,500 ---SSJ2: 8,800 ---Z sword training: 900 ---Z-sword SSJ2 (hypothetical): 80,000 ---Ultimate: 1,200,000,000 Goten: 100 ---SSJ: 2,200 Vegeta: 175 ---SSJ: 3,850 Trunks: 103 ---SSJ: 2,250 Goku: 210 ---suppressed SSJ (Yakon): 780 ---SSJ: 4,700 ---SSJ2: 18,800 ---SSJ3: 94,000 ---before reverting to base (Kid Boo fight): 100,000 Mighty Mask (Trunks and Goten): 80 Gotenks (pre ROSAT): 20,000 ---SSJ: 440,000 Gotenks (post ROSAT): 1,500,000 ---SSJ: 35,000,000 ---SSJ3: 740,000,000 Vegetto: 1,740,000,000 ---Super: 38,000,000,000 ---SSJ3 (hypotetical): 780,000,000,000 Good Boo (fighting Kid Boo): 40,000 Super Spirit Bomb: 1,000,000 Other characters Krillin: 5 Tien: 4.5 Yamcha: 0.5 Android #18: 92 Piccolo: 1,000 Villains Babidi (scouter level): 1.5 Spopovitch (scouter level): 13 Yamu (scouter level): 15 Pui Pui: 80 Yakon: 215 Dabura: 2,550 Majin Vegeta: 210 ---SSJ: 4,700 ---SSJ2: 18,800 ---Final Explosion: 60,000 Fat Boo: varies ---initial: 14,500 - less than Super Perfect Cell ---Dabura fight: 22,000 ---Vegeta beatdown: 50,000 ---Post Vegeta battle: 65,000 ---SSJ3 Goku battle: 87,000 Grey Boo: 56,000 Good Boo: 31,000 Super Boo: varies ---initial: 1,500,000 ---Gotenks humiliation: 70,000,000 ---SSJ3 Gotenks fight: 720,000,000 ---Gotenks and Piccolo absorbed: 1,480,000,000 ---Piccolo absorbed: 720,001,000 ---Gohan absorbed: 1,850,000,000 Kid Boo: 90,000 End of DBZ Goku: 85,000 ---SSJ: 1,870,000 ---SSJ3: 37,400,000 Vegeta: 84,000 ---SSJ: 1,680,000 ---SSJ2: 6,720,000 Gohan: 910,000,000 Goten: 500 ---SSJ: 12,000 Trunks: 500 ---SSJ: 12,000 Pan: 150 Mr. Boo: 40,000 Uub (scouter level, scared): 4 Uub (using power): 86,000 Edited by IllogicalGlory, May 15 2013, 12:45 AM.



TheACE	May 14 2013, 04:04 AM Post #2
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	What about Super Namek Piccolo. Do you keep him separately? I usually keep a separate power up for Super Namek Piccolo, Krillin with Unlocked Potential and Super Uub/Majuub. Things like that. And is Android 18 really that inferior? I was under the impression she was still a force to be reckoned with. Otherwise why would Goku be concerned? But that's just me, I have a thing for Androids. Also, the Super Ghosts are the most devestating force in Dragon Ball Z? Interesting, but still a little unsettling.
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Vertical	May 14 2013, 04:06 AM Post #3
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	Just glancing over it: - I don't like the placement of [Pre-RoSaT] Gotenks being below SSJ2 Majin Vegeta - Unnecessarily huge gap between [Pre-RoSaT] SSJ Gotenks and [Initial] Super Buu/[Post-RoSaT] Gotenks Any reason for those?
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+ Pyrus	May 14 2013, 04:11 AM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Not a fan of Base Gotenks (pre-ROAST) being half of the Super Saiyan 2s, but ah well.
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TheACE	May 14 2013, 04:11 AM Post #5
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Actually reading it in depth, I have trouble believing that Farmer with Shotgun can one shot Babidi (Even though Farmer with Shotgun is a badass)
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+ Kyouks	May 14 2013, 04:24 AM Post #6
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	Babidi's described to be powerless, magic aside, so it really doesn't matter where he's placed. Besides, this is done on a completely different scale - Base Gohan's only 100.



TheACE	May 14 2013, 04:34 AM Post #7
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Kyouka Suigetsu May 14 2013, 04:24 AM Babidi's described to be powerless, magic aside, so it really doesn't matter where he's placed. Besides, this is done on a completely different scale - Base Gohan's only 100. Yeah I saw that. But he specifically marked Babidi's 1.5 as a (Scouter Level).
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+ Kyouks	May 14 2013, 04:36 AM Post #8
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	Missed that, but either way that falls under being powerless just fine. Edited by Kyouks, May 14 2013, 04:38 AM.



+ Pyrus	May 14 2013, 04:38 AM Post #9
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Babidi doesn't look like he could beat the farmer even in an arm wrestling contest.
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IllogicalGlory	May 14 2013, 04:47 AM Post #10
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	Darth Pyrus May 14 2013, 04:11 AM Not a fan of Base Gotenks (pre-ROAST) being half of the Super Saiyan 2s, but ah well. That would work if I used a 10x multiplier; it's not like has any feats anyway. If there's some proof that he's as strong as Vegeta, I'll change it, but the regular SSJ multiplier is much greater than SSJ2 or SSJ3, so I don't see any reason for him to be higher. Quote: Also, the Super Ghosts are the most devestating force in Dragon Ball Z? Interesting, but still a little unsettling. Yeah, you're right; I got rid of those numbers. Since I don't place any other amped ki attacks, it's not fair to just do it for the ghosts. Although a KHH from Ultimate Gohan would handily beat them. Edited by IllogicalGlory, May 14 2013, 04:54 AM.



+ Kyouks	May 14 2013, 04:55 AM Post #11
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	I'd disagree with Vegeta being so far below Kid Gohan, doesn't match up with his confidence in facing him at the Budokai even if he was considering that Gohan may have gotten a little weaker/rustier.



~~DSB~~	May 14 2013, 05:03 AM Post #12
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	i dont believe SSj Multiplier being anymore than 10x in Buu Saga , but thats ur take Pre Rosat Base Gotenks should easily be much over SSj2 majin Vegeta And yes , even Hercule can beat babidi in a fair contest End of DBZ Goku: 85,000 Vegeta: 84,000 why this gap , when vegeta was confident that he can beat Goku one day ?
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IllogicalGlory	May 14 2013, 05:05 AM Post #13
Furious Posts: 2,112 Group: Duplicate Member #8,639 Joined: December 2, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Bleach, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Bleach	DSB May 14 2013, 05:03 AM Goku: 85,000 Vegeta: 84,000 why this gap , when vegeta was confident that he can beat Goku one day ? Vegeta is always saying that he'll beat Goku, but he never does; also, he's older than Goku (Goku was dead for 7 years, was it 7 years?). Besides, if I was 98.8% as strong as my opponent, I wouldn't feel too bad about my chances of beating them. Quote: Pre Rosat Base Gotenks should easily be much over SSj2 majin Vegeta All he has is a dubious vote of confidence from Yamcha or Krillin, and a badly beaten up face from fighting Buu; if I make him as strong as Vegeta, then I have to make him much stronger than SSJ3 Goku, I say he's 50% better at most. Quote: i dont believe SSj Multiplier being anymore than 10x in Buu Saga , but thats ur take I believe that SSJ can never be lower than kaio-ken; I know the argument is that SSJ is more efficient, but if kaio-ken really were stronger, then there's no reason that Goku wouldn't have tried it against, say Cell. If it could double his power, it would have been worth a shot, especially if he trained with it at some point, which he would have, if it were stronger than SSJ. Quote: What about Super Namek Piccolo. Do you keep him separately? I usually keep a separate power up for Super Namek Piccolo, Krillin with Unlocked Potential and Super Uub/Majuub. Things like that. Piccolo's power is 1,000. He only has one form. Edited by IllogicalGlory, May 14 2013, 05:13 AM.



~~DSB~~	May 14 2013, 05:27 AM Post #14
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	IllogicalGlory DSB May 14 2013, 05:03 AM Goku: 85,000 Vegeta: 84,000 why this gap , when vegeta was confident that he can beat Goku one day ? Vegeta is always saying that he'll beat Goku, but he never does; also, he's older than Goku (Goku was dead for 7 years, was it 7 years?). Besides, if I was 98.8% as strong as my opponent, I wouldn't feel too bad about my chances of beating them. Neither does goku ... And goku even admits that he and vegeta were equal in power . Goku and Vegeta made equal gains in the 7 years [not counting Goku's SSj3] becoz vegeta said that their power gaps stayed the same If they were equal in Buu Saga , they were equal at EoZ
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Vertical	May 14 2013, 05:47 AM Post #15
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	DSB May 14 2013, 05:27 AM Neither does goku ... And goku even admits that he and vegeta were equal in power . Goku and Vegeta made equal gains in the 7 years [not counting Goku's SSj3] becoz vegeta said that their power gaps stayed the same The "gap" Vegeta refers to is the difference in training genius [not power] that he can never close. IllogicalGlory May 14 2013, 05:05 AM Quote: Pre Rosat Base Gotenks should easily be much over SSj2 majin Vegeta All he has is a dubious vote of confidence from Yamcha or Krillin, and a badly beaten up face from fighting Buu; if I make him as strong as Vegeta, then I have to make him much stronger than SSJ3 Goku, I say he's 50% better at most. Generally, people place him above SSJ2 Majin Vegeta because of the following: - he survived [gag scene or not]... as opposed to what happened to Vegeta - Krillin knows Vegeta stood no chance against Fat Buu but believes Gotenks might - Gotenks himself thought he stood a chance against an opponent that Goten and Trunks both knew defeated Vegeta [Pre-RoSaT] Gotenks > SSJ2 Majin Vegeta [Pre-RoSaT] SSJ Gotenks >~< SSJ3 Goku As you said, he shouldn't be much stronger than SSJ3 Goku but any problems his placement 'causes with your numbers is the fault of your model [as you create the model to fit the story, not adjust the story to fit the model].
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