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Vegetas power level during Ginyu force and Jeish?
Topic Started: May 13 2013, 07:49 PM (2,032 Views)
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miguelnuva
May 14 2013, 10:25 AM
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May 14 2013, 06:25 AM
That means he was not rivaling Freeza , otherwise , he would never have thought of working with Gohan and Krillin
In order for a 3 on 1 to work you have to have 1 character rivaling the other character otherwise you get Broly vs everyone or Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz.
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It's pretty clear that Vegeta was Freeza's rival at that point. Adding Gohan and Krillin would have increased the odds of victory even more.
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I'd place Vegeta at 50,000 when he fights Jeice.
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May 14 2013, 08:54 PM
I'd place Vegeta at 50,000 when he fights Jeice.
That's disturbingly low.
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Why? Vegeta still feared Goku's power as he approached and he did not defeat Jeice more impressively than Goku defeated Reecome and Burter.
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May 14 2013, 09:15 PM
Why? Vegeta still feared Goku's power as he approached and he did not defeat Jeice more impressively than Goku defeated Reecome and Burter.
I've always gone with Vegeta growing in strength by the minute, and there is even a quote to back that up. Also he knows that Goku has Kaioken, so if he already sensed Goku at 60 000, he can easily go more than that.
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May 14 2013, 07:36 PM
miguelnuva
May 14 2013, 10:25 AM
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May 14 2013, 06:25 AM
That means he was not rivaling Freeza , otherwise , he would never have thought of working with Gohan and Krillin
In order for a 3 on 1 to work you have to have 1 character rivaling the other character otherwise you get Broly vs everyone or Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz.
Basically this.^

It's pretty clear that Vegeta was Freeza's rival at that point. Adding Gohan and Krillin would have increased the odds of victory even more.
That still doesnt prove why he was panting
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May 15 2013, 04:41 AM
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May 14 2013, 07:36 PM
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May 14 2013, 10:25 AM
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May 14 2013, 06:25 AM
That means he was not rivaling Freeza , otherwise , he would never have thought of working with Gohan and Krillin
In order for a 3 on 1 to work you have to have 1 character rivaling the other character otherwise you get Broly vs everyone or Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz.
Basically this.^

It's pretty clear that Vegeta was Freeza's rival at that point. Adding Gohan and Krillin would have increased the odds of victory even more.
That still doesnt prove why he was panting
Because he was still inferior to Freeza. Why else?
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Vegeta wasn't fearful of Kaioken Goku. He was fearful of Base Goku. He wasn't even thinking about Kaioken at all.
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May 15 2013, 06:11 PM
Vegeta wasn't fearful of Kaioken Goku. He was fearful of Base Goku. He wasn't even thinking about Kaioken at all.
Agree He was fearful at Gokus base but putting on his Kaioken to which he knows it I think because he fot beat up makes Vegeta think that Goku is a Ssj,maybe?
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Vegeta is not thinking about Kaioken at all.
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May 14 2013, 06:25 AM
That means he was not rivaling Freeza , otherwise , he would never have thought of working with Gohan and Krillin


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May 15 2013, 04:41 AM
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May 14 2013, 07:36 PM
miguelnuva
May 14 2013, 10:25 AM
DSB
May 14 2013, 06:25 AM
That means he was not rivaling Freeza , otherwise , he would never have thought of working with Gohan and Krillin
In order for a 3 on 1 to work you have to have 1 character rivaling the other character otherwise you get Broly vs everyone or Goku and Piccolo vs Raditz.
Basically this.^

It's pretty clear that Vegeta was Freeza's rival at that point. Adding Gohan and Krillin would have increased the odds of victory even more.
That still doesnt prove why he was panting

You can rival someone and still be weaker than them..

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May 14 2013, 11:53 PM
p123
May 14 2013, 09:15 PM
Why? Vegeta still feared Goku's power as he approached and he did not defeat Jeice more impressively than Goku defeated Reecome and Burter.
I've always gone with Vegeta growing in strength by the minute, and there is even a quote to back that up. Also he knows that Goku has Kaioken, so if he already sensed Goku at 60 000, he can easily go more than that.

It's pretty clear he's worried about what he's seeing right in front of him.
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Well, he was strong enough to beat Zarbon easily, but he was no match for Recoome. Probably around 40,000.
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May 15 2013, 06:11 PM
Vegeta wasn't fearful of Kaioken Goku. He was fearful of Base Goku. He wasn't even thinking about Kaioken at all.

p123
May 15 2013, 06:27 PM
Vegeta is not thinking about Kaioken at all.

That's what I argued when I debated SuperSaiyan3 about this matter. I don't think Vegeta was considering Kaio-ken when he compared himself to Goku.
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May 15 2013, 07:09 PM
Well, he was strong enough to beat Zarbon easily, but he was no match for Recoome. Probably around 40,000.

40,000 is where the Ginyu members were at. Vegeta beat Jeice with some difficulty, so he would have to be higher than 40,000.
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Vegeta most certainly is not considering Kaioken. Which shows how scary Base Goku is himself. Vegeta seems to be aware that Base Goku has more than what he showed , which was 60k. I think Vegeta thinks Goku is probably around 80-85k like Ginyu does.
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Vegeta was able to sense to whole 90,000 from Goku. Vegeta was able to pick up what Goku was truly putting out vs the 5,000 the scouters were picking up.
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