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Conflicting Notions on SSJ vs. SSJ4
Topic Started: May 11 2013, 11:19 PM (837 Views)
SuperSaiyan1993
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Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans

SSJ:

On one hand, I love the Super Saiya-jin form. It is pretty much fighting perfection incarnated

- Golden aura & hair -- symbolizing unparalled warrior supremacy long reveled from the legends

SSJ4:

On the other hand, Super Saiya-jin 4 actually looks more like the Saiyans we were introduced to in the Saiyan saga

- Primal red fur -- reminder of the great ape blood that flows in a saiyan's veins.

Super Saiya-jin will always be the most original and iconic SSJ form for me that I like the most (tied with SSJ2) but sometimes I can't help thinking that perhaps the Non-Canon SSJ4 is maybe a little more accurate in some ways for the Saiyans what with the monkey tail, fur, and aggressiveness.

Any thoughts?
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Yeah I liked how SSJ 4 seemed like more of a ruthless form. Goku wasn't afraid to hurt the enemy, and finished the job quickly. I would have like SSJ better had it kept the ruthless nature of the Freeza arc. I found in the android arc it became softer since they mastered it. They treated it like base form, and didn't bring as much of the intensity that it initially brought.
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I like how SuperSaiyan 3 hyped SSJ4, especially the "ruthless form". Hehe.

Pink Panther + Oozaru = SSJ4 IMO

SSJ4 was trashed at every level (Oozaru Baby, Super 17, Omega). All hype, no value.

SSJ has the unique factor & retains its pride at every stage. Ascended SSJ Vegeta trashed Semi-Cell, USSJ was brute force, MSSJ/FPSSJ Goku had a titanic clash with Cell. I could go on.

Edited by Billa, May 12 2013, 12:01 AM.
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Good points about the differences in attitude.

And I still haven't found out so I'll ask, did AT design SSJ4?
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Interesting thoughts there. The golden aurora from the SSJ's ki seems to affect it's hair color and somehhow turn its eyes blue (pretty weird).
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May 12 2013, 01:30 AM
Interesting thoughts there. The golden aurora from the SSJ's ki seems to affect it's hair color and somehhow turn its eyes blue (pretty weird).
Super Saiyans have white aura's in the manga.
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SSj4 is similar to ultimate gohan because both of them have base hair except that SSj4 has red hair on their chest making it similar to a great ape.

On the other hand, ssj is better known than ssj4

the golden aura, the green eyes, and the spiked up hair makes it feel more of a ssj than ssj4
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Also, ssj4 feels more base like than any other form. SSJ was amazingly introduced in the frieza saga, really sparking the battle while ssj4 went through more stages

First, you become a yellow ape. This sounds cool but you don't have control hurting innocent lives. THen, you become a ssj4, being more serious and confident similar to ultimate gohan.
Edited by Kaioken123, May 12 2013, 01:44 PM.
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I prefer the look of the ssjs with the golden hair and aura,but your right ssj4 remind you most about the saiyans real look and I prefer his acting more ruthless losing control as well as Goku stated making him more violent
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Kaioken123
May 12 2013, 01:40 PM
SSj4 is similar to ultimate gohan because both of them have base hair except that SSj4 has red hair on their chest making it similar to a great ape.

On the other hand, ssj is better known than ssj4

the golden aura, the green eyes, and the spiked up hair makes it feel more of a ssj than ssj4
SSJ4 really isn't similar to Ultimate Gohan at all. Ultimate Gohan is just Base Gohan with most of his dormant power released and accessible without having to transform.
All he has to do is power up, having no strain on his body at all, in a pinch he has instant access to any extreme of his power.

Super Saiyan is actually inferior to Gohan's new found ki structure.
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I use to like SSJ4, but to me, it makes no sense.

If SSJ4 is basically a controlled Golden Oozaru, why red fur? Why not gold?

Black hair? Yawn?

Where do their shirts go?

Why do they suddenly get eye-liner?
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