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Spopovich's chi

Topic Started: May 11 2013, 02:16 PM (2,892 Views)

* Ketchup Revenge

May 12 2013, 02:26 PM Post #31

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Spopavich is clearly not a calm and collected person, and that level of ki control takes experience and concentration. There's also no evidence that he knew anything about ki prior to his possession. A lot of his abilities are from Bobbidi's magic, and are not from his own ki.

In addition to this, consciously manipulating ki levels seems to be almost entirely a Kaio originated skill, that got adopted and developed by Earthlings and Namekians. The only person we see outside these influences who is able to do this to some degree is Ginyu, and with his body-switching track record, there's no evidence that he hadn't encountered ki level manipulation prior to when we see him in the series.

Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 12 2013, 02:31 PM.

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May 12 2013, 10:11 PM Post #32

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May 11 2013, 09:28 PM
I've always thought that Spopavich was partially dead. Videl was able to kick his head nearly off, and the guy didn't die, and was barely injured at all. No other person possessed by Bobbidi is seen with those type of unnatural abilities.

If this is the case, than it makes sense why Goku couldn't sense his ki. Ki is a combination of mind, body, and spirit. If his spirit wasn't there and he was simply some type of animated corpse, than it makes sense why Goku wouldn't be able to sense it.

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I can't see Pui Pui's or Yakon's heads being kicked off and then returning in their "right" place again.

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May 12 2013, 10:18 PM Post #33

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If you can't sense the power of a Majin, that could be an explanation for Kaioshin being stronger than Piccolo and still being afraid of Pui Pui: he couldn't sense his power, but expected the worst because he was dealing with Babidi.

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May 12 2013, 10:48 PM Post #34

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Majin Vegeta is a Majin.

Also, Freeza is able to control his ki.

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May 13 2013, 06:19 AM Post #35

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May 12 2013, 10:48 PM
Majin Vegeta is a Majin.

Also, Freeza is able to control his ki.

Not really, he is not a proper one because he is not under Babidi's control, the power increase is a whole separate thing as evidenced below:

Chapter: 456 (DBZ 262), P4.3
Context: as Babidi takes control of Vegeta
Babidi: “Alright! That’s it! He’s already mine, uhihihi…! While I’m at it, I’ll draw out his hidden power to behind [his? their?] limits!”

"While I'm at it" is the phrase he uses, which means that the power increase is gravy on top of the Majin control.

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May 13 2013, 08:24 AM Post #36

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The "M" contradicts this. He even stated that he let himself be controlled. But I'm not going to argue.

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May 13 2013, 10:04 AM Post #37

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May 13 2013, 08:24 AM
The "M" contradicts this. He even stated that he let himself be controlled. But I'm not going to argue.

If he were completely under Babidi's control, then how could he refuse to attack Gohan and Kaioshin when Babidi specifically ordered him to do so?

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May 13 2013, 08:04 PM Post #38

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Yakon technically wasn't under Babidi's control; he ate Goku's light/energy instead of trying to send it to Boo's ball
Dabra technically wasn't under Babidi's control; he attacked Boo when Babidi didn't want him to.

Vegeta was a 'Majin' in every sense of the word; he let Babidi invade his mind and take control; even if he 'broke' it later on, he still had the characteristics of a Majin.

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May 13 2013, 08:23 PM Post #39

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May 13 2013, 08:04 PM
Yakon technically wasn't under Babidi's control; he ate Goku's light/energy instead of trying to send it to Boo's ball
Dabra technically wasn't under Babidi's control; he attacked Boo when Babidi didn't want him to.

Vegeta was a 'Majin' in every sense of the word; he let Babidi invade his mind and take control; even if he 'broke' it later on, he still had the characteristics of a Majin.

The difference is that Vegeta let Babidi do in on purpose. I don't think Yakon or Dabra did.

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May 13 2013, 09:30 PM Post #40

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May 13 2013, 08:04 PM
Yakon technically wasn't under Babidi's control; he ate Goku's light/energy instead of trying to send it to Boo's ball
Dabra technically wasn't under Babidi's control; he attacked Boo when Babidi didn't want him to.

Vegeta was a 'Majin' in every sense of the word; he let Babidi invade his mind and take control; even if he 'broke' it later on, he still had the characteristics of a Majin.

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Emmeth
May 13 2013, 08:23 PM
The difference is that Vegeta let Babidi do in on purpose. I don't think Yakon or Dabra did.

I think that Babidi could have persuaded Dabra; Dabra was intend on seeing Majin Boo (someone who killed the Kaioshin), and seemed disappointed when Boo wasn't what he expected. Pocus could have folded after a display of power.

Of course it doesn't have to be this way, but none of them have to have been forced into it as well. No one knows. So there may not be much of a difference.

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