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Why didn't GT Vegeta...
Topic Started: May 1 2013, 06:19 PM (2,211 Views)
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Again... that does nothing to further help this discussion... and I just noticed that comment.

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Because characters don't always do everything perfectly, the writers don't always remember aspects that were used in the past and it is not necessary for a character to take the most efficient course of action every single time; also there's no telling whether the fake moon causes tail regrowth or what, it's never discussed, Vegeta never says "damn my fake moon, now the brat will grow back his tail (he did say the part about transforming) and whup me."

There's no complex answer, the blutz wave machine was used before in GT, the fake moon was not, obviously it would have been an easier solution, but then again we have no idea how effective it is or what effect it has on people who are exposed to it.

There are lots of factors that limit the possibility of the fake moon's use by Vegeta.

Also, it's GT.
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But just saying it's GT is like saying Plot... it's a copout explanation.

But, the Fake Moon does the same thing as the waves, the only difference is one is a ball of energy, and the other is rays from a satellite. Also, Gohan's tail wasn't seen until he arrived on the battle field.

And, I find it hard to believe that is was just tucked in his pants until he just so happens to arrive there, and his tail didn't reappear until he looked at the Moon Ball. That's something that should be taken into account.
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But just saying it's GT is like saying Plot... it's a copout explanation.
The writers are human too, and it's easy to forget about something like the fake moon, especially when the Blutz wave generator was used in a similar fashion earlier in the same show, it kind of makes sense that they would use that instead. Obviously Vegeta creating a fake moon would have sped along the process, but there's got to be some kind of drama.

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But, the Fake Moon does the same thing as the waves, the only difference is one is a ball of energy, and the other is rays from a satellite. Also, Gohan's tail wasn't seen until he arrived on the battle field.
It could be coincidence that his tail grew back when it did, since tails have grown back before and Gohan's was removed quite a while before then. Maybe he was just due for a new tail.

Also, it took Goku a while to grow back his tail when their was a moon in the sky, maybe the fake moon takes the same amount of time for the tail to grow while the Blutz wave amplifier is faster/instantaneous.
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In DBZ/GT there's no such thing as a coincidence . More like AT either meant it to work that way, or he wasn't thinking things through again.

Sometimes drama is stupid and makes less sense though.
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May 2 2013, 05:44 AM
In DBZ/GT there's no such thing as a coincidence . More like AT either meant it to work that way, or he wasn't thinking things through again.

Sometimes drama is stupid and makes less sense though.
If the moon is indeed what causes tails to grow back, then the fake moon is going to take months just like the regular moon, while the enhanced blutz waves from Bulma's machine causes instant tail regrowth. Vegeta doesn't have months to wait for his tail to regrow, thus the fake moon is useless in that situation.
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That doesn't mean it'll take months, because if the Moon Ball is what caused Gohan's tail to grow back, then it only took a few minutes longer than the Brutz waves.
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Have you guys just ever thought... They stop growing as saiyans age? It makes Ccomplete biological sense that tails grow when the kids are young, so when they get removed the saiyan children cells are still going, but once the body realizes its an adult they have no reason to continue growing the tail out. Kinda like teeth, in a small sense.
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May 1 2013, 06:19 PM
We know Vegeta can generate a Moon Ball, and when Gohan arrived on the battlefield of Kakarrot Vs. Vegeta, he didn't have a tail, yet after being around the Moon Ball his tail regrew.

So, wouldn't it have been smarter, less time consuming for Vegeta to just create one and allow it to regrow his tail?
Ask yourself, 'why didn't Vegeta's tail grow back with the full moon on Earth?''
A moon ball, is the same thing, so it wouldn't work. . . probably.
My guess is that Bulma's Blutz-waves (or whatever they are called) generated more power for Vegeta to regrow his tail.
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i guess vegeta didnt want his tail to grow back ever again
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There needs to be more than, "it's GT"

That's just the easy way out.
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But honestly, is it? Is that the easy way out? Having watched GT myself, I can say that while yes its fun and entertaining, it doesn't really make a lot of sense in quite a few places.

So I don't see how "it's GT" doesn't fit in this particular situation.
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Because it's a copout explanation like saying Plot, like Gohan said... taking the easy way out.

I'm trying to find a reasonable explanation, since we saw what we saw in Z when Gohan's tail all of a sudden reappeared while being around Vegeta's Moon Ball.
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May 2 2013, 09:58 AM
Because it's a copout explanation like saying Plot, like Gohan said... taking the easy way out.

I'm trying to find a reasonable explanation, since we saw what we saw in Z when Gohan's tail all of a sudden reappeared while being around Vegeta's Moon Ball.
Well, we've already offered plenty of explanations, if you don't agree, then its nothing more than a plot hole.
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You mean other than just saying "it's GT"

I'm just saying that you can't ignore that his tail wasn't there one minute, but the next while being around the Moon Ball it was.

And, it seems more like explaining around it, then an actual explanation.
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