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Saiyan questions ask here!; Ask any saiyan related questions here
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Whatchusayian	Apr 30 2013, 08:48 PM Post #1
Posts: 2 Group: New Member Member #9,443 Joined: April 29, 2013 Favourite Anime Naruto, bleach, DBZ	So here's one of my questions they say that a saiyan gets stronger after each battle and near death experience but what if they die and get brought back to life do they become even stronger or gain nothing? (Ex. Vegeta being revived in frieza saga)



~~Professor Gohan~~	Apr 30 2013, 09:05 PM Post #2
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yeah, they get stronger after near death experience. They're called Zenkai's.



+ Havoc_Wreaker	Apr 30 2013, 09:08 PM Post #3
Popcorn Posts: 9,904 Group: Elite Member Member #5,870 Joined: March 19, 2011 Gender Other Country Canada	its only near death and if u die then u die, u get squat



SuperSaiyan1993	Apr 30 2013, 09:49 PM Post #4
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Saiyan Zenkai = What Does Not Kill me, Makes me Stronger Survive Significant Injury ----> Significant Power-up
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


* Ketchup Revenge	May 1 2013, 03:49 AM Post #5
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	In all honesty, the "Zenkai" is the commonly used term to describe the increase; but there is no official one. The Zenkai actually comes from the healing process, not the fight. If you die, there's no healing, therefore you gain nothing physically. Another thing to the Zenkai is that there's some kind of biological fail safe where a Saiyan can't get a Zenkai from self injury.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


SSJ	May 1 2013, 03:52 AM Post #6
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	KR put it well. It's like working out, you damage your muscle tissue so that it forces itself to grow back stronger. A Zenkai is no different. It forces you to gain strength to defend your body from a future injury similar to what you just had.



~~DSB~~	May 1 2013, 05:33 AM Post #7
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	KetchupRevenge May 1 2013, 03:49 AM In all honesty, the "Zenkai" is the commonly used term to describe the increase; but there is no official one. The Zenkai actually comes from the healing process, not the fight. If you die, there's no healing, therefore you gain nothing physically. Another thing to the Zenkai is that there's some kind of biological fail safe where a Saiyan can't get a Zenkai from self injury. I always wondered .... how does the Saiyan body know that the injury is self inflicted ?
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SpeedoTrunks	May 1 2013, 12:22 PM Post #8
Posts: 908 Group: Member Member #9,238 Joined: March 22, 2013 Gender Not Specified	DSB May 1 2013, 05:33 AM I always wondered .... how does the Saiyan body know that the injury is self inflicted ? I presume its along the same lines, idea wise, like how you cannot tickle yourself, it's because of a reaction others touching your skin. The physical act is the same, but it would be you doing the touching and it doesn't work. I would guess it's something like that!



lunar2	May 1 2013, 08:17 PM Post #9
Posts: 9,150 Group: Member Member #5,265 Joined: September 24, 2010 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime dragonball/z/gt/movies What Browser do you use? internet explorer or firefox	KetchupRevenge May 1 2013, 03:49 AM In all honesty, the "Zenkai" is the commonly used term to describe the increase; but there is no official one. The Zenkai actually comes from the healing process, not the fight. If you die, there's no healing, therefore you gain nothing physically. Another thing to the Zenkai is that there's some kind of biological fail safe where a Saiyan can't get a Zenkai from self injury. not true, goku got 3 on the way to namek from training too hard. the issue with vegeta was that he wouldn't be able to injure himself properly without actually killing himself. it was more practical to have krillin do it.
	list of canon sources: the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga. list of non canon sources: everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality. for those that blindly follow word of god


* Ketchup Revenge	May 2 2013, 02:16 AM Post #10
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	lunar2 May 1 2013, 08:17 PM not true, goku got 3 on the way to namek from training too hard. He still had to heal from those training sessions. And there's the fact that the only reason he received three zenkai was because of the senzu. The senzus' effects allowed his healing process to be instantaneous, therefore completely eliminating recovery time. This allowed him more training time, and more chances to recover (instantly) from that continued training. To put it into perspective, think of it as you working out. You aren't stronger at the end of your work out than you were at the beginning. You get stronger as a result of recovering from the work out. It's the same concept with Zenkai, but Zenkai is obviously a haxed increase. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 2 2013, 02:23 AM.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


* Crashbreaka	May 2 2013, 02:19 AM Post #11
Captain Oblivious Posts: 6,888 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,771 Joined: June 14, 2012 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime Onepunch-Man, Gurren Lagann What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Seven Deadly Sins, Food Wars, Onepunch-Man	KetchupRevenge May 2 2013, 02:16 AM lunar2 May 1 2013, 08:17 PM not true, goku got 3 on the way to namek from training too hard. He still had to heal from that training. And there's the fact that the only reason he received three zenkai was because of the senzu. The senzus' effects allowed his healing process to be instantaneous, therefore completely eliminating recovery time. This allowed him more training time, and more chances to recover (instantly) from that continued training. The more you have to heal and recover, the higher the zenkai you receive. I think he was talking about the whole 'saiyan can't give himself a zenkai' thing.



* Ketchup Revenge	May 2 2013, 02:25 AM Post #12
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Crashbreaka May 2 2013, 02:19 AM KetchupRevenge May 2 2013, 02:16 AM lunar2 May 1 2013, 08:17 PM not true, goku got 3 on the way to namek from training too hard. He still had to heal from that training. And there's the fact that the only reason he received three zenkai was because of the senzu. The senzus' effects allowed his healing process to be instantaneous, therefore completely eliminating recovery time. This allowed him more training time, and more chances to recover (instantly) from that continued training. The more you have to heal and recover, the higher the zenkai you receive. I think he was talking about the whole 'saiyan can't give himself a zenkai' thing. Either way, that wouldn't be counted as deliberate self injury. Training yourself to near death is different than taking a chunk of meat out of your own arm.
	The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.


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