Selsiuss

Apr 30 2013, 07:09 AM

Death Battle Calculated Ssj4 Goku at just over 2x the speed of light, i think it was 2.4x the speed of light.

They calculated that by determining Goku's speed across Snake Way, then multiplying that up by 586x gravity, which is roughly equal to base Goku topping out at 40 tons, then multiplied that up by the Super Saiyan forms.

I think it needs some work, but I think it is a close estimate.

Selsiuss

Apr 30 2013, 07:09 AM

Death Battle Calculated Ssj4 Goku at just over 2x the speed of light, i think it was 2.4x the speed of light.

They calculated that by determining Goku's speed across Snake Way, then multiplying that up by 586x gravity, which is roughly equal to base Goku topping out at 40 tons, then multiplied that up by the Super Saiyan forms.

I think it needs some work, but I think it is a close estimate.

Vegeta8558

May 2 2013, 09:22 PM

Selsiuss

Apr 30 2013, 07:09 AM

Death Battle Calculated Ssj4 Goku at just over 2x the speed of light, i think it was 2.4x the speed of light.

They calculated that by determining Goku's speed across Snake Way, then multiplying that up by 586x gravity, which is roughly equal to base Goku topping out at 40 tons, then multiplied that up by the Super Saiyan forms.

I think it needs some work, but I think it is a close estimate.

There completly wrong and foolish the calculations of them first of all they take saiyan saga Goku to see his speed,and they said he was the same fast to stupid in the end of GT his million times faster than that,second go and check Base Goku with ssj2 Goku they have the same numbers if you take his base and make it x4000 which is the ssj4 multiplier you will see that his speed is over 237 times speed of light,so no wrong calculations😀
Oh and we have some statements about there speed we know Popo is faster tha lighting which is 0.5 speed of light by the manga we know it so I can say that Goku is MFTL😀

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Anyone above base goku nameke saga is Speed of lgiht or faster then light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM4g2MmGq1g

the rest of the series is Plot and that shouldnt be taken seriously

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Incredibly fast. Gotenks circled the Earth about six times in 30 seconds.

TheACE

May 3 2013, 04:40 PM

Hang on, we've been over this before in several threads. I think even "The Most Powerful Anime Characters Thread."

So, that being said, what's wrong with Wiz and Boomstick using the Snake Way theory and scaling it linearly? They acually determined that base End Goku (The one they used for the battle) was something like Mach 8200 and just went from there. That's just kinda ignoring the calculation. (And why are we still angry about this? We won the Wizard Magazine battle as a Super Saiyan, tied 1 to 1 right now, let it go brothers)

And further more, the Anime version of the feat took about 7 seconds to circle Earth 12 times or so. That put Gotenks' max speed as a Super saiyan at about 151 million miles per hour. That's just under a 5th of what light speed is. So End of Buu we're talking near light, and if we scale linearly, then by GT we're talking Lightspeed and up.

Also I think we talked about this, there's no such thing as "Combat speed." You can have Attack Speed, Super Cruise and Max Speed, but Max Speed is just that, maximum, and is used for highest movement (Like a Jet). Also like other airborne units, Attack Speed is lower. Take an F-22 for example. According to my fly boy brother in law, it's supposed to be somewhere just under or just above mach 2 or something (He was pretty vague about it, but from his implications he's used the thing on bombing runs at around mach 1.8 and some "dog fights" in the 2.2 region). And I do believe that "Super Cruise" Aka the speed that F-22s travel from target to target at without after burners is about mach 2.0.
That being said, it makes a lot more sense to just move at high speed for travel without urgency, move at max speed with urgency, and attack at high speed with enough room to react and manuver. I mean, the difference between mach 2.5 and mach 2.2 is 230 mph. That's a big difference in reaction time. Ex: Moving at that speed, you'll pass an extra half mile every second you move, never the less react. So unless Goku has the brain of a Super Computer (And let's be honest, fighting genius or not, he's doesn't and can't possible calculate trajectories like that without STOPPING) he can't ATTACK at maximum speed. It's just not possible.

So where was I? Oh yes.

Saiyan Saga: Speed of Sound Plus
Frieza Saga: Hypersonic Speed
Android Saga: Ultra Hyper Sonic Speeds
Buu Saga: Relativistic/Semi-Light Speed
Baby Saga and Up: Speed of Light Plus

Besides, Lightning's speed is inconsistent as previously mentioned and isn't really a great way to measure a character's speed unless we're talking about reflexes (I.E. "Lightning/Jedi Reflexes"). But that's about it.

InkStains_Suck

May 3 2013, 04:52 PM

Death Battles' scaling is extremely just garbage.

The only time anything goes lightspeed in GT is Trunks' spaceship. No character has ever gone lightspeed unless you bring in Instant Transmission (which is Instant). IF however you would like to bring a quote or a scene showing a character going lightspeed then please go ahead and show it.

Also going off the anime Gotenks feat is extremely inconsistent, why did it take Buuhan roughly a minute or two to get to Goku if Buuhan>>>SSJ3 Gotenks?

Ultra Hyper Sonic Speeds is the fastest id put someone in DBZ