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Goten and Trunks Ssj level?
Topic Started: Apr 28 2013, 12:44 PM (2,420 Views)
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Saberoph
Apr 29 2013, 09:40 PM
I have this Basr Gotenks=>Base Gogets (No rival boast).

It's the same with Kakarrot and Vegeta, so close that Gogeta would win due to his great skill and great fighting instincts... where Gotenks has little to no fighting instincts, I do believe he has skill and that he's unpredictable, which is good imo. But, I don't see the kids being loads more powerful, which means Gotenks wouldn't be more powerful then Gogeta.

Now, if you believe Gogeta get's a rival boast... then Gotenks doesn't stand a chance.

My placement use to be with a huge gap between the kids and adults, but I realized that it was silly to have such a gap. This little to no gap works imo.

Also, Kakarrot was confident that him and Gohan would win, and he would win, even though Gohan would have to lower his power to do it.

Scenario 1: Gohkan is Ultimate, which means he still feeds off Gohan's Potential with Kakarrot's on top of it, which would give them a victory.

Scenario 2: They fuse and Gohkan goes SS3, which combined with Gohan would still be enough to get the job done.

This is only my opinion, but I still see it working and making sense.
Goku believed a fusion between Gohan and himself would be enough to defeat Buutenks. Buutenks said it would not matter but contradicts himself by trying to stop it from happening. This leads me to the belief that SSJ3 Gohkan >= Buutenks. If Gohan has to lower his strength to Goku's, does that not mean Gohkan = Gogeta? Unless you believe that any suppressed energy is regained during the fusion process.
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Well, I believe no matter which scenario happens, Gohan's remaining Potential (That isn't lost from lowing his power) will still come into play, and all of Kakarrot's Potential also comes into play.

I just think just using the Dance would weaken Gohkan, bit not to the point where it would cause a problem, due to the reason I said above.

As for the Potata, I see Gohkan beating Bootenks without Transforming/Powering up.
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Well, I believe no matter which scenario happens, Gohan's remaining Potential (That isn't lost from lowing his power) will still come into play, and all of Kakarrot's Potential also comes into play.

I just think just using the Dance would weaken Gohkan, bit not to the point where it would cause a problem, due to the reason I said above.

As for the Potata, I see Gohkan beating Bootenks without Transforming/Powering up.
Ah, another situation we see differently. Though, I do agree with you on [Potara] Gohkan defeating Buutenks without the need for a power up/transformation (though I see it as being a rather difficult battle if he doesn't).

I understand now why our opinions on Goten/Trunks placements differ so and also understand that neither of us will likely change those opinions until our views on fusion change. I am happy with my own fusion views and see no problem with your own, so I guess at the end of it all we can simply stand with differing opinions.
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Fine with me, and I get to walk away from this like with other members around here that I respect... that we remained civil and respectful about the whole thing, and that's what really matters.

Yeah, at least I didn't come up with some ridiculous gap that can't be even explained. :p
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