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Pui pui power level?
Topic Started: Apr 25 2013, 08:05 PM (10,054 Views)
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I'm seeing a pattern there, since Gohan and Trunks were both little kids(F.Trunks didn't feel it when he went in and he didn't get used to it first). Chances are they can't lift as much as an adult despite their power. I haven't experienced that kind of gravity but it's just like more weight on your body, and we know they can lift a huge amount of weight the stronger they get.
Edited by bardock1990, Apr 25 2013, 09:57 PM.
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yes, the stronger they get, not the more powerful they get. goku and vegeta can lift so much weight because they trained their bodies to be that strong. if you took all goku's ki away, he would still be able to lift the exact same weight with his muscles. he would still be able to withstand 100g, because power has absolutely nothing to do with what gravity or weights you can withstand.

@super gohan. yeah, it is amazing that anyone can kill frieza in one blow. goku recognizes that that is a tremendous feat of power. that doesn't mean that goku himself couldn't do it.

goku > vegeta > trunks = #18 > ssj vegeta (androids) > ssj goku (namek) > frieza.

goku could do the same thing, in base, without powering up. doesn't make it any less of an impressive feat in the absolute sense.
Edited by lunar2, Apr 25 2013, 10:14 PM.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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everything else, regardless of origin, format, or quality.

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Interesting theory, but I don't agree that KI has no correlation with physical strength. Gohan pulling out the Z sword proves it for me since he had to generate all of his KI to pull it out. I used to watch those Shaolin Monk Docu's on Discovery and they claimed that they could generate enough force to drop a person with their chi. That is what they apply to their strength in Z as well.
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bardock1990
Apr 25 2013, 10:53 PM
Interesting theory, but I don't agree that KI has no correlation with physical strength. Gohan pulling out the Z sword proves it for me since he had to generate all of his KI to pull it out. I used to watch those Shaolin Monk Docu's on Discovery and they claimed that they could generate enough force to drop a person with their chi. That is what they apply to their strength in Z as well.
Becoming a super saiyan does more then increase your power level. it increases ki output , senses , stamina , durability , and strength. though each form of a super saiyan effects these a bit differently. And i rank pocus weaker then frieza . I admit he is kinda strong but the main reason supreme kai reacted the way he did to him was because of he connection to babidi . So he was just trying to be careful because of babidi's magic .
Edited by supremekai, Apr 25 2013, 11:12 PM.
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Movies don't confirm anything because it's Toei fanfic. It's fun, but not canon.
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lunar2
Apr 25 2013, 10:10 PM

@super gohan. yeah, it is amazing that anyone can kill frieza in one blow. goku recognizes that that is a tremendous feat of power. that doesn't mean that goku himself couldn't do it.

goku > vegeta > trunks = #18 > ssj vegeta (androids) > ssj goku (namek) > frieza.

goku could do the same thing, in base, without powering up. doesn't make it any less of an impressive feat in the absolute sense.


The context of the conversation goes against that idea.

Kaioshin makes the remark as a rebuttal to Vegeta criticizing Buu's destructive capabilities as nothing special from what a Saiyan could do. The counter statement is clearly made as a contrast; showing what a normal Saiyan couldn't do, which their reaction is there to emphasize.
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Apr 25 2013, 09:38 PM
I consider Pui Pui to be around Android saga SSJ Vegeta, possibly slightly stronger.
There is no way that can be right. If that was true then Vegeta would not have been able to humiliate him so much. I consider him to be somewhere around Frieza's level.
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I also think hes weaker than Frieza. A lot of you on here seem to underestimate Frieza. He was a strong foe.
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Apr 26 2013, 12:03 AM
I also think hes weaker than Frieza. A lot of you on here seem to underestimate Frieza. He was a strong foe.
I agree with this statement. and what evidence suggest that even base saiyans in the majin buu saga surpass frieza in terms of power . Cause i cannot find the evidence that suggests that.
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This is an interesting topic and the fandom is kinda split IMO.

If you guys wouldn't mind, would you guys add an explanation as to why you believe what you believe? I am unsure of it myself, but I don't have the time to go through the manga. I'd like to go over it again however.

Thanks in advance.
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Apr 26 2013, 12:12 AM
This is an interesting topic and the fandom is kinda split IMO.

If you guys wouldn't mind, would you guys add an explanation as to why you believe what you believe? I am unsure of it myself, but I don't have the time to go through the manga. I'd like to go over it again however.

Thanks in advance.
Sure. Ok i rank pocus weaker then frieza cause he can hardly do a thing against base vegeta and if i remember right the multiplication of the saiyan form is 50X. While i admit Vegtea has gotten stronger i find it hard to believe he is stronger then a full powered frieza in his base. the reason is case most of vegetas planet level destroying attacks are in his ssj forms.
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supremekai
Apr 26 2013, 12:17 AM
Hurry My Curry
Apr 26 2013, 12:12 AM
This is an interesting topic and the fandom is kinda split IMO.

If you guys wouldn't mind, would you guys add an explanation as to why you believe what you believe? I am unsure of it myself, but I don't have the time to go through the manga. I'd like to go over it again however.

Thanks in advance.
Sure. Ok i rank pocus weaker then frieza cause he can hardly do a thing against base vegeta and if i remember right the multiplication of the saiyan form is 50X. While i admit Vegtea has gotten stronger i find it hard to believe he is stronger then a full powered frieza in his base. the reason is case most of vegetas planet level destroying attacks are in his ssj forms. PS my brain is a bit faulty right now but if you point flaws in my logic i should be able to defend them.
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Hurry My Curry
Apr 26 2013, 12:12 AM
This is an interesting topic and the fandom is kinda split IMO.

If you guys wouldn't mind, would you guys add an explanation as to why you believe what you believe? I am unsure of it myself, but I don't have the time to go through the manga. I'd like to go over it again however.

Thanks in advance.
Its hard to say. Like bardock1990 has being saying Pui Pui thinks that handeling 10x gravity is something special, yet someone its nothing to someone like Frieza, but then again, Babidi wouldn't take over a weakling, so Pui Pui's power level is definitely around Frieza's power level somewhere. What form? I don't know just somewhere around Frieza's power level.
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I put Pui-Pui past 1st form Frieza and under 2nd for Frieza.

When Babadi was getting warriors King Piccolo and Kami were the strongest on the Earth and Kai was afraid of Babadi's magic helping Pui-Pui.
Edited by miguelnuva, Apr 26 2013, 12:51 AM.
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