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Best point guard in the NBA
Tweet Topic Started: Apr 13 2013, 07:51 PM (1,143 Views)
Sasuke	Apr 16 2013, 02:55 AM Post #16
Posts: 1,922 Group: Member Member #7,745 Joined: June 11, 2012	Hurry My Curry Apr 16 2013, 02:45 AM Sasuke Apr 16 2013, 01:39 AM Hurry My Curry Apr 16 2013, 01:02 AM Sasuke Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM Hurry My Curry Apr 14 2013, 12:41 AM Yeah CP3's stats aren't all that great, but I don't think that defines a floor general at all. Everything, the entire offense runs through Chris Paul in Los Angeles and while the same is true for D-Rose, I just don't see him touching CP3. As for Rondo, well, his team has done better without him. A floor general makes him team better, apparently Rondo doesn't (at least in the regular season). He does step up in the post-season though. And of course, you have to watch Chris Paul to see how good he is IMO. And seeing as how I live in California, I see quite a lot of him haha. This isn't the 2008 Celtics, the present Celtics are in desperate need of Rondo. I don't think people quite understand how valuable he has been to this team, when he is on the floor he definitely needs to be accounted for no ifs ands or buts about it. Before he went down with the injury, the Celtics wouldn't have made the playoffs had the regular season ended that day. They were below .500. Once he got hurt, the Celtics started and still have been playing better. Of Course, they are gonna miss his presence in the post season, but there is no denying that they have played better since he was hurt. I think Russell Westbrook isn't being mentioned, because he plays with Kevin Durant.. Which basically means nothing, had the season ended after the first week half the league wouldn't make the playoffs. I probably shouldn't of exaggerated by saying "desperate need" rather he is the difference between being a contender and a possible threat to Heat to being first round knockouts. As for Russell Westbrook not being mentioned because of KD's play is unfair. Don't you think KD's game is a lot easier with a player like Westbrook on floor? It's always been a problem with me that people sweep others accomplishments under the rug because they want to appoint all the glory to one player(See: Jordon to Pippen, Shaq to Kobe) He isn't floor general ala the likes of CP3(which coincidentally seems to be what a "True" PG is suppose to be) rather he is a scorer and is good one at that. Ahh but Rondo tore his ACL in January was it? And that was after 38 games, where the Celtics still weren't in the play off picture. That is no mere week in the NBA friend. And as I said, Rondo does make them far better in the post season. They will miss him come playoff time, but his nonchalant attitude during the regular season is the opposite of what a PG needs to do. They need to inspire there teammates, lead by example. I just said that's why Westbrook isn't mentioned, not that it's necessarily true lol. But still, I think they play off each other, but given someone like Rondo or CP3, I think the Thunder would be even better. Westbrook is a damn good scorer when he decides to attack the rim. He falls in love with his mid range and his average 3 pt shot. His efficiency should improve, given his athletic tools. That is true but they still had more than half their season left so it doesn't mean much. But I can agree that he isn't that good in the regular season but only because you technically have to bring your A game in the playoffs. I guess the reason CP3 is seen as better PG might just be his success in L.A after being with another team for years. It shows that he isn't a role playing system PG like Nash is.



Hurry My Curry	Apr 16 2013, 03:06 AM Post #17
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	It wouldn't mean much if the Celtics didn't start to pick up there game immediately after his injury. It just shows that Pierce and Garnett don't need to hand the franchise over to Rondo. Yeah CP3 is a boss. I don't just think it's because of his success with LA. The way he controls the game, picks his spots to score and runs the game is just beautiful to me. Not to mention, he's clutch as f***. A true floor general. The best in the game, even in the Golden Age of Point Guards to me.
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Sasuke	Apr 16 2013, 03:21 AM Post #18
Posts: 1,922 Group: Member Member #7,745 Joined: June 11, 2012	Peirce and KG's games complement each other. That and them being veterns who already establish themselves is reason enough to believe they'd eventually go on without Rondo although I am suprised they won as much as they have. Oh I know CP3 didn't made himself in L.A, he just got more publicity is all. His 2007 season with Hornets was one of the best I've seen, not sure if remember correctly but he was putting up triple doubles left and right that year. That and making alley hoops with T.Chanlder the norm.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Apr 16 2013, 09:34 PM Post #19
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Hurry My Curry Apr 16 2013, 02:45 AM Sasuke Apr 16 2013, 01:39 AM Hurry My Curry Apr 16 2013, 01:02 AM Sasuke Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM Hurry My Curry Apr 14 2013, 12:41 AM Yeah CP3's stats aren't all that great, but I don't think that defines a floor general at all. Everything, the entire offense runs through Chris Paul in Los Angeles and while the same is true for D-Rose, I just don't see him touching CP3. As for Rondo, well, his team has done better without him. A floor general makes him team better, apparently Rondo doesn't (at least in the regular season). He does step up in the post-season though. And of course, you have to watch Chris Paul to see how good he is IMO. And seeing as how I live in California, I see quite a lot of him haha. This isn't the 2008 Celtics, the present Celtics are in desperate need of Rondo. I don't think people quite understand how valuable he has been to this team, when he is on the floor he definitely needs to be accounted for no ifs ands or buts about it. Before he went down with the injury, the Celtics wouldn't have made the playoffs had the regular season ended that day. They were below .500. Once he got hurt, the Celtics started and still have been playing better. Of Course, they are gonna miss his presence in the post season, but there is no denying that they have played better since he was hurt. I think Russell Westbrook isn't being mentioned, because he plays with Kevin Durant.. Which basically means nothing, had the season ended after the first week half the league wouldn't make the playoffs. I probably shouldn't of exaggerated by saying "desperate need" rather he is the difference between being a contender and a possible threat to Heat to being first round knockouts. As for Russell Westbrook not being mentioned because of KD's play is unfair. Don't you think KD's game is a lot easier with a player like Westbrook on floor? It's always been a problem with me that people sweep others accomplishments under the rug because they want to appoint all the glory to one player(See: Jordon to Pippen, Shaq to Kobe) He isn't floor general ala the likes of CP3(which coincidentally seems to be what a "True" PG is suppose to be) rather he is a scorer and is good one at that. Ahh but Rondo tore his ACL in January was it? And that was after 38 games, where the Celtics still weren't in the play off picture. That is no mere week in the NBA friend. And as I said, Rondo does make them far better in the post season. They will miss him come playoff time, but his nonchalant attitude during the regular season is the opposite of what a PG needs to do. They need to inspire there teammates, lead by example. I just said that's why Westbrook isn't mentioned, not that it's necessarily true lol. But still, I think they play off each other, but given someone like Rondo or CP3, I think the Thunder would be even better. Westbrook is a damn good scorer when he decides to attack the rim. He falls in love with his mid range and his average 3 pt shot. His efficiency should improve, given his athletic tools. actually, my friend, they had the 8th seed in that time.
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SaiyajinElite	Apr 21 2013, 03:00 AM Post #20
Posts: 61 Group: Member Member #9,268 Joined: March 29, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z GT, Cowboy Bebop	I personally like Tony Parker or Westbrook from the Thunder. If I had to take 2 it would be them



-Freeman	Apr 27 2013, 10:32 PM Post #21
I think I need a doctor Posts: 539 Group: Member Member #7,814 Joined: June 23, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	NATE ROBINSON /THREAD



Hurry My Curry	Apr 27 2013, 11:16 PM Post #22
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	lol 28 points in the fourth quarter.
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-Freeman	Apr 29 2013, 11:49 PM Post #23
I think I need a doctor Posts: 539 Group: Member Member #7,814 Joined: June 23, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Robinson is GOD. 4 for 6 at the moment, and a great and-one just now. EDIT- WTF isn't there an official NBA thread? Edited by -Freeman, Apr 29 2013, 11:56 PM.



Hurry My Curry	Apr 30 2013, 06:23 AM Post #24
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Westbrook has proven one doubter wrong in me. This Thunder team looks downright average without Russell Westbrook.
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Wolf	Apr 30 2013, 07:53 AM Post #25
Shadow Realm > Posts: 5,538 Group: Street Fighter Member #6,410 Joined: June 27, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country South Africa Favourite Anime Berserk What Browser do you use? 18+ Favourite Manga Berserk	Why is Rose out of the discussion? I'm a huge Bulls fan so, i'm going to pick him.
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* Mitas	Apr 30 2013, 11:28 AM Post #26
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	For me, Rose has to be out of the discussion until he comes back from injury. We don't know how much it's going to affect his game, physically and mentally. He's coming across as scared right now and that's definitely hurting his reputation. I've lost a lot of the respect I had for him as a competitor. Sure, he needs to be cautious, but he's playing in full scrimmages with his team. Plus, players like Noah and Hinrich are putting their bodies and health on the line in the playoffs at the moment while he sits on the sidelines. As for the best PG currently, you can't look past Chris Paul. He's so good that he's almost underrated. Just watching him control the reigns of any team he's been on is an absolute joy, and if you look at the players he has to play with on the clippers, only Crawford can really do damage offensively on his own, everyone else needs Chris Paul to feed them their offence. Rondo is definitely up there, and so is Westbrook, but they both have deficiencies in their game. Rondo's jumpshot, although improved, is still far from the weapon it needs to be, and his free throw troubles definitely hurt him in close games when the Celtics are in the bonus because he looks almost scared to attack the rim and dominate in fear of being sent to the line. Westbrook is immense, and still young and improving, but he too often gets hotheaded and takes bad shots and stops the Thunder offence from clicking. Can you imagine Chris Paul playing with Durant? He'd never shoot the team out of the game. He'd let Durant lead in scoring, but would know when to chip in and take over when Durant goes cold. Also, look out for Kyrie Irving. This guy is still only 21! He's a future No.1 PG in this game.
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Hurry My Curry	Apr 30 2013, 01:54 PM Post #27
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	No doubt CP3 is the best right now, but damn, I thought the Thunder would be ok without Westbrook. My goodness was I wrong. This team won't make it past the 2nd round IMO.
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* Mitas	Apr 30 2013, 02:00 PM Post #28
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	Yeah, they won't be able to make it past Memphis or the Clippers. It's sad to see players go down this season and have such big impacts on the season i.e. Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, Kobe.
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Hurry My Curry	May 1 2013, 01:24 AM Post #29
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Rose does not count. He could have come back in March. It's his own problem that he is not playing. Hinrich, Deng, and Noah are all playing through injuries as well.
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~~Volt the Mean~~	May 1 2013, 08:18 AM Post #30
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	The best pure point guard in the current NBA is Chris Paul hands down! He is the floor general, the definition of a PG. Westbrook, is basically a shoot first guard not really a pg in my eyes, doesn't really run the team, the reason why OKC looks so average now is because of the lack of westbrooks athleticism, amazing energy, and the fact that he drops nearly 30 every night. Rose is no doubt a beast, but sometimes he just seems really undersized on the court, and tbh kinda soft when he is guarded by another athletic pg, I remember a couple years back when GS blayed the Bulls and Monta Ellis OWNED Rose, locked him through out the whole game! Lol I still remember that game Warriors won. Also why I don't like to think Rose as the best PG in the game is because year in and year out he has a solid team, but Rose could never really lead them anywhere. Rose is pretty much our generations Allen Iverson. Rondo, is my second favorite as the best PG in the NBA, has mediocre shooting ability but that is what makes him such a good passer, without him the Celtics just fall apart, also last year when Rondo was healthy he had 6 triple double and that saying something. Offensively Rondo isn't completely useless he can post up, and take it to rim any time he wants too, also he runs a pretty furious fast break. BTW, don't sleep on Stephen Curry, this year in his first career playoff appearance, so far he is averaging 28 ppg and 9 assists, while Rose in his last playoff appearance when he was healthy he averaged 23 ppg and 6 assists. And unlike Rose Curry has led the Warriors to 3-1 playoff lead over the Nuggets, until tonight losing after a huge comeback. Edited by Volt the Mean, May 1 2013, 08:20 AM.



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