Base Trunks vs. Piccolo and Seventeen

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Base Trunks vs. Piccolo and Seventeen
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* Crashbreaka	Apr 3 2013, 07:54 PM Post #16
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TheACE	Apr 3 2013, 08:20 PM Post #17
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	For that matter which Trunks is this? Is this Chibi Trunks? Versus Piccolo and 17? As in Super Namek Piccolo and Android 17... the one with the unlimited energy reserves? Against the 8 year old that can't stand up in ascended Gravity without his Super Saiyan Form? The boys have so few feats I find their power difficult to measure. I think they'd probably give the Androids a good fight, but I'm pretty sure that they'll need their Super Saiyan forms to win it. So this fight probably goes to Piccolo and 17 by default unless we're talking about GT Trunks or Saiyan Ascended Beyond A Super Saiyan Future Trunks (Budokai Only of course), then I think Trunks couldn't win. Maybe Piccolo and Seventeen vs Super Goten and Super Young Trunks, that's a good fight. Maybe I'll try that in Budokai Tenkaichi 3 or Raging Blast 2 and see what happens...
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+ Kyouks	Apr 3 2013, 10:24 PM Post #18
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	xGOKUdaSAVIORx Apr 3 2013, 03:51 PM (Note: A18 was able to hold off Trunks and Goten at their SSJ forms for a while at least anyway.) Filler. Brofist Apr 3 2013, 04:31 PM Piccolo alone would beat base trunks, we already know by the aspect of Boo's absorption that Piccolo>Base Trunks since Boo didn't take on Trunks appearance. Methinks this is supposed to be Piccolo during his fight with #17. In any case, by this logic, Boo would have retained his "buff" form when absorbing Dai Kaioshin, so it's not solid. Assuming this is pre-RST Piccolo (didn't read through entire thread), I'd probably give this to Trunks, given that he was at worst marginally inferior to #18 whilst heavily restricted, so the thought of his unrestricted self still being weaker than someone who isn't tremendously stronger than #18 at all just doesn't seem right. Edited by Kyouks, Apr 3 2013, 10:33 PM.



TheACE	Apr 3 2013, 11:58 PM Post #19
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Ok I just have to ask this. The mighty mask thing, what's the deal with amping the boys up that much? Granted the costume was restricting, but it's not like it was limiting their power, just slightly hindering their movement. Trunks was shooting energy blasts, Goten was flying and kicking, Trunks got some damn strong punches in there. It's not like it was twenty tonnes of lead cloth. Granted it's not easy to fight when you're on someone's shoulders, I've played chicken in the pool in my day, I get it. But these kids have Super Powers! They're a lot more badass than a couple of bed sheets, and as great warriors it shouldn't hinder their performance. Same deal with 18. She's a badass! And they were all at a tournament, it's not like they were going full force, they would have killed everybody that way. That's not the Z-Fighter way. Usually... But yeah. If 18 (Who, to be fair, probably did at least improve her abilities with her powers) still has a bit of an edge on Trunks I think Piccolo and 17 have this. He may be stronger, but Piccolo had a strength advantage over 17 that whole fight, 17 couldn't actively stop him. It was the merit of 17 never getting tired that lead to their stalemate. Battle in Dragon Ball from Namek onwards are dependent on Ki output and Reserves and when you have as much reserve as you need, that's a hell of an advantage in a long fight. and the combined experience of those two... well they have an edge.
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Vertical	Apr 4 2013, 12:38 AM Post #20
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	I have [Pre-RoSaT] Base Trunks ~ [Post-Kami] Piccolo ~ Android 17... so I would give the victory to the tag-team.
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+ Kyouks	Apr 4 2013, 12:49 AM Post #21
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	TheACE Apr 3 2013, 11:58 PM just slightly hindering their movement. Methinks that's an understatement, especially when #18 is shown with an obvious, albeit marginal, edge, and then Trunks attributes their disadvantage purely to the suit, not the fact that they were in their regular states. And Goten didn't do a thing aside from acting as Trunks' legs unless you're referring to the anime, so I think you're really underestimating how much fighting without your own legs can hinder you (which is explicitly brought up during a hand-to-hand exchange [assuming this crappy fan translation I'm looking at is accurate, Trunks tells Goten he's moving in the wrong direction] where the boys still manage to hold their own for a while). It's not like the suit made them weaker like weighted clothing would, the restricted movement is what made the difference. The amount of difference is up to you, though I don't think "slightly" cuts it. -- EDIT: I forgot to add in my first post that Trunks only wins if he fights them one-on-one, imo. Edited by Kyouks, Apr 4 2013, 12:52 AM.



Prince .	Apr 4 2013, 12:56 AM Post #22
NO.1 Miz fan in the world . MIZ IS AWESOME . Posts: 2,245 Group: Probation Member #7,275 Joined: February 3, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Trunks was on pair with No. 18 with the mighty mask's clothes , that's at least put Base Trunks close to No.17 but he will lose him thanks to 17 infinite stamina and Piccolo will one shots Trunks .



* Crashbreaka	Apr 4 2013, 02:27 AM Post #23
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~~DSB~~	Apr 4 2013, 05:07 AM Post #24
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+ Solid Snake	Apr 4 2013, 12:40 PM Post #25
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+ Emmeth	Apr 4 2013, 12:46 PM Post #26
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	DSB Apr 4 2013, 05:07 AM nope he went SSj3 for how much time ? 5 seconds ? Why will such a short time drain ur energy ? I'd say it drained his power considerably. He didn't have a long fight against Chibi Boo either, and he was totally drained. I'd say he was fighting for a couple of minutes as Vegeta went on his praise rant about Goku. Edited by Emmeth, Apr 4 2013, 12:46 PM.
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EMIYA	Apr 4 2013, 01:16 PM Post #27
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+ Emmeth	Apr 4 2013, 01:19 PM Post #28
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Brofist Apr 4 2013, 01:16 PM I think DSB is referring to the time Goku went SSj3 when Gotenks Boo was about to attack him but before anything happened, Boo changed to Piccolo Boo and Goku quickly reverted back, leaving little time for the effects of such things as stamina loss to take effect. --- --- And for the topic again, if this is Pre-ROSAT Piccolo + 17, I'd give it to the duo after a hard fight. They may be able to do it separately as well but they'll be having one hell of a fight probably unless you specifically have a significant gap between Piccolo/17 and #18. If this is Post-ROSAT Trunks though, I'd have to give it to Trunks and I've given my response already to if this is Post-ROSAT Piccolo. I know he was.
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~~DSB~~	Apr 4 2013, 01:20 PM Post #29
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Emmeth Apr 4 2013, 01:19 PM Brofist Apr 4 2013, 01:16 PM I think DSB is referring to the time Goku went SSj3 when Gotenks Boo was about to attack him but before anything happened, Boo changed to Piccolo Boo and Goku quickly reverted back, leaving little time for the effects of such things as stamina loss to take effect. --- --- And for the topic again, if this is Pre-ROSAT Piccolo + 17, I'd give it to the duo after a hard fight. They may be able to do it separately as well but they'll be having one hell of a fight probably unless you specifically have a significant gap between Piccolo/17 and #18. If this is Post-ROSAT Trunks though, I'd have to give it to Trunks and I've given my response already to if this is Post-ROSAT Piccolo. I know he was. And u still think 5 seconds will drain his energy ?
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+ Emmeth	Apr 4 2013, 01:27 PM Post #30
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	DSB Apr 4 2013, 01:20 PM And u still think 5 seconds will drain his energy ? I know it will. Any second will drain your his energy. He couldn't keep up a long fight with Chibi Boo at all, and we all know Goku's stamina is very good, watching at previous fights.
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