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Why didnt Goku Make Gohan a SSj2 in Rosat ?
Topic Started: Apr 1 2013, 01:37 PM (4,004 Views)
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The transformation was unknown. Goku wouldn't just be like, "Hey Gohan let's go back into the rosat to make you a SSJ 2!" They didn't want to go back in because it wouldn't have been beneficial to them.
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Goku had maxed out both his SSJ form and Gohan's and at that point Goku knew if Gohan snapped at that point Cell was done.

What does happen is Gohan snaps and goes into a whole new SSJ level that was beyond what even Goku was expecting.

BTW in the Cell games SSJ2 was just Gohan with is rage unlocked it wasn't really a different level.
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U are not getting what im trying to say

Goku knew that he and Gohan were maxed out , True
But Goku also knew that Gohan always gets a new level of Power by his Rage Boosts

Goku and Vegeta [Not F Trunks] felt that there was something beyond SSj , and all of them achieved it

Should it Strike a Genius Fighter like Goku that since Gohan has a Huge dormant power and gets powers boosts when he is angry , he can get to a new level where no one else can go ?

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Apr 2 2013, 06:24 AM
U are not getting what im trying to say

Goku knew that he and Gohan were maxed out , True
But Goku also knew that Gohan always gets a new level of Power by his Rage Boosts

Goku and Vegeta [Not F Trunks] felt that there was something beyond SSj , and all of them achieved it

Should it Strike a Genius Fighter like Goku that since Gohan has a Huge dormant power and gets powers boosts when he is angry , he can get to a new level where no one else can go ?

Goku says in the anime I don't know about that manga that "I didn't think Gohan would go this far."

Also SSJ2 was just SSJ with all Gohan's rage unleashed at first when AT was writing it for the Cell games.

In universe Gohan going SSJ2 let Goku know that there were true levels beyond SSJ and not just stages.
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See this :
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See Goku's Facial Expression ?
It means he expected Something like this .
Now , SSj2 maybe SSj with Rage of Gohan for AT , but in the next few pages , The Z Warriors say that Gohan went BEYOND SSj .

Isnt this a proof that Goku Knew about this power, he saw it in Rosat , but didnt know its a Transformation and not an Upgrade like ASSj ?
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Over-training can cause problems such as Vegeta to be stronger then the opponent but getting tired easily.

Also if Gohan did unlocked SSJ2 then he would be over-confident. Now that would cause more problems as it did when he knew that he would've finished off Cell when Goku died.
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The Prince of All Saiyans/Debaters.

Goku's facial expression was when he sensed the power level of Gohan's was higher than that of Cell's.

It was a clear smoke all around, and he did not noticed the changes.

He thought that he has released his anger for SSJ making him more powerful than his opponent like Goku was for Frieza.

Until Piccolo, Trunks and Vegeta <--- Surely him, figured that he has gone above the very limit (which is SSJ).
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Goku wouldn't be able to utilize Gohan's anger in rosat. He couldn't unlock his anger without the help of certain events that took place during CG.
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why not ?

if goku could make him angry enough to go SSj , he would be able to do the same to get gohan to ssj2
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How could Goku do that? Simulated anger has shown not to be effective enough for Gohan. He needed something like Cell destroying 16 to transform.
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^ nope , according to cell , gohan was almost going to transform before 16 come to the scene
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Where do you get that from?
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As others have stated above, Goku didn't know about SSJ2 and they had already reached their limits with the training so going back in would do more harm than good. Goku just hoped if Cell pushed Gohan into a corner, the boy would get real angry and tap into that hidden power.
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Apr 2 2013, 11:11 AM
Where do you get that from?
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it may not the perfect translation , but even in the Japanese anime and English anime , cell said this .
Cell was Sure Gohan would snap after that last "push".

And i believe Cell was right , becoz Gohan was already showing signs of transforming

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That doesn't mean anything. Cell didn't know he would transform, anyway.

Regardless, my point still stands; Goku couldn't make Gohan transform in RoSaT.
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