Turles (Full power after fruit) vs First Form Freeza

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Turles (Full power after fruit) vs First Form Freeza
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+ Emmeth	Mar 31 2013, 07:13 AM Post #1
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	I have a feeling these two would have an even match. What do you guys think? If First Form Freeza isn't enough, go to Second Form. Third Form I feel would be overkill. Go!
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+ Kyouks	Mar 31 2013, 07:29 AM Post #2
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	Goku's power in the movie was stated to have been "30,000 and skyrocketing," and given that Turles easily lol-pwn'd a Kaio-ken x10 Goku after one fruit, he's probably about even with 1st form Freeza at worst, I'd say.



~~DSB~~	Mar 31 2013, 07:56 AM Post #3
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Didnt Goku go Kaioken x 20 ? Well If thats the case , Turles is Over 600000 Even If thats not the case ... turles goes over 550000 He defeats Freeza 1st form
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+ Kyouks	Mar 31 2013, 08:12 AM Post #4
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	He only goes x20 in the dub.



+ Emmeth	Mar 31 2013, 08:16 AM Post #5
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Kyouka Suigetsu Mar 31 2013, 08:12 AM He only goes x20 in the dub. 10x in the original.
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GokuBlaze	Mar 31 2013, 08:52 AM Post #6
Posts: 1,091 Group: Member Member #8,950 Joined: January 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	Frieza Im sorry....
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~~DSB~~	Mar 31 2013, 08:56 AM Post #7
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	even if goku uses KKx10 i think turles goes over 550000
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Alex D. Boss	Mar 31 2013, 09:20 AM Post #8
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Goku was stated to have a battle power at "30,000 and skyrocketing!". Based on it being massively above 30,000 and that his gi in Movie 3 is the same he wore when arriving on Namek, it can be concluded that his battle power would be comparable to that which he used on Namek at the time, which judging on when the movie was released and the time in which this statement was likely scripted, was likely the 60,000 estimation from Ginyu. Therefore, Post fruit Turles would be massively above 600k, so likely in the 750k-1 million range. Considering his pre-fruit self was already far above 100k, as evidenced by him not finding Oozaru Gohan that impressive, the boost would be anywhere between a 5-8x boost, maybe a 10x if you really want to bloat the difference between Turles and Kaioken x10 Goku. If applying the same boost to him after his 2nd fruit, he'd probably end up somewhere in the range of 4-10 million.



~~DSB~~	Mar 31 2013, 09:37 AM Post #9
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	^ thats too much
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Alex D. Boss	Mar 31 2013, 09:55 AM Post #10
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	DSB Mar 31 2013, 09:37 AM ^ thats too much No, it isn't.



Sam	Mar 31 2013, 10:04 AM Post #11
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	Turles should be able to take down first form, as I have thoroughly read this exact same topic through a lot during the years here. However, second form is up for some debate.
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~~DSB~~	Mar 31 2013, 11:50 AM Post #12
The Showstopper Posts: 3,850 Group: Suspended Member #8,626 Joined: November 29, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox 16 Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Alex KloonBoss Mar 31 2013, 09:55 AM DSB Mar 31 2013, 09:37 AM ^ thats too much No, it isn't. Yes it is if Turles goes up to 4-10 million , he easily beats 4th form Freeza [1%] and up to 10% 4th form Freeza
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Captain Cadaver	Mar 31 2013, 02:13 PM Post #13
Absolute End of Century Conquerer Posts: 1,345 Group: Member Member #9,053 Joined: February 16, 2013 Favourite Anime Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken/Fist of the North Star	DSB Mar 31 2013, 11:50 AM Yes it is if Turles goes up to 4-10 million , he easily beats 4th form Freeza [1%] and up to 10% 4th form Freeza Which is more than likely if applying the same boost to the 2nd fruit as the first, and if assuming the boost from the Shinseijuu fruit works as a multiplier. It would only need to be far lower if it were an additive.
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TheACE	Mar 31 2013, 08:19 PM Post #14
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Captain Cadaver Mar 31 2013, 02:13 PM DSB Mar 31 2013, 11:50 AM Yes it is if Turles goes up to 4-10 million , he easily beats 4th form Freeza [1%] and up to 10% 4th form Freeza Which is more than likely if applying the same boost to the 2nd fruit as the first, and if assuming the boost from the Shinseijuu fruit works as a multiplier. It would only need to be far lower if it were an additive. I'm sorry, this time I have to disagree. Not because Frieza is losing persay, but I don't think that Turles is that strong. After quick rewatch of the fights, It's clear tat Oozaru Gohan is about 100,000. He doesn't seem "Impressed" because he can't sense energy and doesn't touch his scouter. He also set him off against Goku, so he wasn't a valid threat. He does get concerned after Gohan gets irked and charges at him. That, and if he was past 100k before a fruit, how is Goku, who's approximately 30,000 going to go head to head against him when his Oozaru son (10,000 via Turles scouter reading, xOozaru's 10 = 100k, 3 times Goku's. After all, Goku needed his Kaioken to even keep up with Gohan.) If we ignore numbers, he's about even, with a touch of an edge against a times ten Kaioken Goku (The original said times ten, so by canon rules it holds the most water). I also remember 30,000 being legitimately threatening to Turles before he ate that fruit and Kaioken Goku absolutely crushing Turles, so he's probably either just under or over 30,000. That being said, the fruit is probably a 10 times increase at least initially. So the first fruit puts Turles roughly at 300,000 (A lil stronger than Vegeta was when he fought Base Form Frieza on Namek). Valid threat, but still not quite where Frieza is. Frieza still has an edge just on pure strength and for literally no other reason.
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