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Who is the most hated character of the franchise?
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Saiyan Femme	Mar 30 2013, 05:22 PM Post #31
Posts: 1,683 Group: Member Member #8,569 Joined: November 17, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ, Card Captor Sakura, Evangelion Favourite Manga Slam Dunk, Fushigi Yugi, Shaman King	Billa Mar 30 2013, 04:02 PM Gohan. At every stage of his life. Some foolish "Rage Boost" & "Potential Unlocked BS" completly dominated his character. Personally, a pathetic son to an awesome Dad whom clearly isn't worthy to be one. Most feel Great Saiyaman Saga as sucky of which clearly portrays the kind of character Gohan was. At least Goku/Vegeta filler segments inside of Buu were way entertaining. This thread is about who is the most hated by people in general, not just you. A lot of people don't like grown-up Gohan, but I'm pretty sure Gohan was very well liked by most from the BoZ till the end of the Cell saga.



+ Emmeth	Mar 30 2013, 05:24 PM Post #32
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Saberoph	Mar 30 2013, 09:20 PM Post #33
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Billa	Mar 30 2013, 10:27 PM Post #34
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	Saiyan Femme Mar 30 2013, 05:22 PM Billa Mar 30 2013, 04:02 PM Gohan. At every stage of his life. Some foolish "Rage Boost" & "Potential Unlocked BS" completly dominated his character. Personally, a pathetic son to an awesome Dad whom clearly isn't worthy to be one. Most feel Great Saiyaman Saga as sucky of which clearly portrays the kind of character Gohan was. At least Goku/Vegeta filler segments inside of Buu were way entertaining. This thread is about who is the most hated by people in general, not just you. A lot of people don't like grown-up Gohan, but I'm pretty sure Gohan was very well liked by most from the BoZ till the end of the Cell saga. Who are "people" here my friend? It might be true that Gohan has a likeable character, but definetly not without hate, especially post-Cell Saga.



Accelerator	Mar 30 2013, 10:34 PM Post #35
最強の能力者 Posts: 7,505 Group: Super Moderator Member #7,059 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Raildex/Monogatari, Mirai Nikki, Nanatsu no Taizai, Katanagatari, Clannad, Shigatsu, Angel Beats! What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Tokyo Ghoul, Nanatsu no Taizai, Joshiraku, Owari no Seraph, Railgun, Mangaka-san	Yamcha and Krillin get the most hate on my Facebook page it seems.
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+ Kyouks	Mar 30 2013, 10:36 PM Post #36
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	bardock1990 Mar 29 2013, 11:34 PM Frieza is also hated by Toei. The amount of times he's rediculed and treated as a stepping stone for new characters is redicilous. All after the original Frieza saga. Any movie he's in he has a brief appearance to get one-shotted. in GT as well. I'd say that's mostly because TOEI knows full well that Freeza is the s*** among many fans, so defeating him with utter ease is one of best ways to show how the others have grown.



90sDBZ	Mar 31 2013, 12:09 AM Post #37
Posts: 1,356 Group: Member Member #7,850 Joined: June 27, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Favourite Manga Dragonball	It's funny because I haven't really seen all that much hate for Gohan even as an adult. Sure he gets called incompetent for screwing up against Super Buu but it seems to me like he's generally well liked. Although he does seem to get a bit more hate as Saiyaman if you count that. Also for the record I actually like both Pan and Gotenks despite them being hated by many.
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TheACE	Mar 31 2013, 03:02 AM Post #38
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Gosh, did not expect the Gohan hate. I understand the Pan hate, but I really think she was just a wasted character. I mean they had so much to do with her. In her first appearance she was playful, bubbly and fun. In GT granted she had grown and changed, but she's got a legacy. The legacy of a celebrity, the legacy of a Super Hero, the legacy of an entire warrior race, a legacy of strong women. She had a lot to live up to, but she kept really getting overshadowed by awesome. I mean, her dad had the most potential in the known universe (quite a bit of which she inherited), her mother is the strongest human female (depending on how you feel about 18) in canon, as was her grandmother (And these two are Badass Normals that have no fear about fighting, with or without Ki, to protect their families.), her Gramps was strong in his own right and master techniques no Z-Fighter got close to except maybe Trunks (Charisma, charm, etc.) and do I need to explain Goku? All this SHOULD have created a bit of internal conflict, and during her brief spot light stints (like in early Z with Gohan) we see her slowly grow into these things. She's got Gohan's emotional sense, Goku's tenacity, Chi-Chi's fearlessness, Videl's natural will power (Who else is gonna try to slap Golden Oozaru Baby?) and Toei did NOTHING with it. But yeah, Pan gets the most hate, which I blame on the executives. I'd also say Majuub, but he's not so much hated as he is underrated and ignored, but that's another story.
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DragonBallZ1989	Mar 31 2013, 03:20 AM Post #39
Posts: 35 Group: Member Member #7,867 Joined: July 2, 2012	It's between Pan and Yarjirobe. Hercule as an extremely close second. Edited by DragonBallZ1989, Mar 31 2013, 03:23 AM.



Saiyan Femme	Mar 31 2013, 03:48 AM Post #40
Posts: 1,683 Group: Member Member #8,569 Joined: November 17, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ, Card Captor Sakura, Evangelion Favourite Manga Slam Dunk, Fushigi Yugi, Shaman King	90sDBZ Mar 31 2013, 12:09 AM It's funny because I haven't really seen all that much hate for Gohan even as an adult. Sure he gets called incompetent for screwing up against Super Buu but it seems to me like he's generally well liked. Although he does seem to get a bit more hate as Saiyaman if you count that. I've seen a good bunch of hate/discontent for grown-up Gohan (Buu saga to EoGT), but almost none for kid Gohan (BoZ to Cell saga).



TheACE	Mar 31 2013, 03:53 AM Post #41
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Saiyan Femme Mar 31 2013, 03:48 AM 90sDBZ Mar 31 2013, 12:09 AM It's funny because I haven't really seen all that much hate for Gohan even as an adult. Sure he gets called incompetent for screwing up against Super Buu but it seems to me like he's generally well liked. Although he does seem to get a bit more hate as Saiyaman if you count that. I've seen a good bunch of hate/discontent for grown-up Gohan (Buu saga to EoGT), but almost none for kid Gohan (BoZ to Cell saga). Probably because he didn't get a chance to live up to the hype. They set his character up to be a badass and then he either gets lazy and nerfed or lazy and rusty, whichever you wanna believe. Sad part is it wasn't his fault, Fan backlash at Goku's "retirement" and executive meddling to keep the series going really derailed an important character development point and his chance to finally make the Manga his. DBZ was Gohan's story after all, he just got wasted as a character. You can see my Pan rant above, but it's functionally the same thing.
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+ Pyrus	Mar 31 2013, 03:55 AM Post #42
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	TheACE Mar 31 2013, 03:53 AM Sad part is it wasn't his fault, Fan backlash at Goku's "retirement" and executive meddling to keep the series going really derailed an important character development point and his chance to finally make the Manga his. Prove it, baby! PROVE IT TO ME HARD!
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Saiyan Femme	Mar 31 2013, 04:07 AM Post #43
Posts: 1,683 Group: Member Member #8,569 Joined: November 17, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ, Card Captor Sakura, Evangelion Favourite Manga Slam Dunk, Fushigi Yugi, Shaman King	TheACE Mar 31 2013, 03:53 AM Saiyan Femme Mar 31 2013, 03:48 AM 90sDBZ Mar 31 2013, 12:09 AM It's funny because I haven't really seen all that much hate for Gohan even as an adult. Sure he gets called incompetent for screwing up against Super Buu but it seems to me like he's generally well liked. Although he does seem to get a bit more hate as Saiyaman if you count that. I've seen a good bunch of hate/discontent for grown-up Gohan (Buu saga to EoGT), but almost none for kid Gohan (BoZ to Cell saga). Probably because he didn't get a chance to live up to the hype. They set his character up to be a badass and then he either gets lazy and nerfed or lazy and rusty, whichever you wanna believe. The "gets lazy" as you call it, was way before he was removed from the action and replaced by Goku as the main character/hero. For half of the Buu arc Gohan was definitely treated as a main character, and then AT changed his mind, gave an 180º turn and pulled some sht out of his ass to make Goku the hero once again. Effectively leaving Gohan completely out of the action and ruining the end of his character arc. I think people don't like the fact that Gohan doesn't like training or fighting and that's part of why they don't like Gohan in the Buu saga as much, but I'm sure he would be waaay more liked if he hadn't been MIA in the final showdown against Buu.



TheACE	Mar 31 2013, 04:26 AM Post #44
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Darth Pyrus Mar 31 2013, 03:55 AM TheACE Mar 31 2013, 03:53 AM Sad part is it wasn't his fault, Fan backlash at Goku's "retirement" and executive meddling to keep the series going really derailed an important character development point and his chance to finally make the Manga his. Prove it, baby! PROVE IT TO ME HARD! Ok game on. Tell me how I do. I put a lot of thought into this. I'm willing to make my assertment based on screen time. I won't use wikis or Kanzenshuu or anything, so I'll have to partially retract the Fanbacklash and Executive Meddling statements since the plot can't directly confirm this. Saiyan Saga: Goku dies, first time in Dragonball, boo-hoo, stakes are high, everyone has to get in gear. Granted, Goku does come back because killing him in the 3rd issue really would have made S*it too real. So half the time we do see Goku training for his return, Krillin and the Gang picking up the slack in the meantime, and Piccolo is with Gohan. And Gohan grows. Every aspect of him is about his hidden potential. His "Battle" with Raditz is our first hint. Piccolo throws him through a "mountain" (Or plateau) just to be sure that he can use the kid to rule the world. But his innocence and a combination of stockholm syndrome/charm brings Piccolo around, so much so that former Demon Prince is willing to sacrifice himself to protect the son of his most hated enemy. Granted it was plot relevant but it was enough to get Gohan a quick boost to make him appear dangerous. And then Goku shows up and we get a great couple fights. Lil bit of Prodigy vs Hardworker, visa-versa and that's it. Next arc, Gohan is on Namek with Krillin by himself, with more implication of his incredible potential both from Guru and through his fight with the Ginyus. He's the last one to make a stand against Recoome and pulled another massive power boost when no one else can stand against him... just until Goku shows up. And Frieza? Anytime Frieza powered up, Gohan was the only other one to power up to meet him. Through his rage induced hidden power, startling even the mighty/cocky Vegeta. An anime only scene adds Gohan returning to confront Frieza, and the tension really made it look like he was gonna go super and take over. Goku's "death scene" in the manga and the Anime both look very definitive and the story seems to be a plot induced retcon for convenience sake. The manga time lapse is believable to an extent, but watch the Anime explosion of Namek and tell me that doesn't look like they thought they were done. The Androids don't give us much since Goku is out for most of the fight, and Gohan doesn't fair much better, until Goku finally fails to defeat Cell in the final round and all this teasing finally comes to fruition with Gohan's ascension. Goku dies again, having used his one free One-Up on Earth, and Gohan with his father's spirit and his friend's help, finally does what his father and friends just couldn't do. Goku accepts his death, for once, understanding that he isn't needed anymore and officially passes Gohan the mantle of leadership. The Z-Fighters all openly acknowledge this. Hell, even Vegeta retires knowing that Goku's gone. That's pretty final, he didn't get written into a corner. And Goten's characterization (Or lack thereof) comes to this. He's implicated to have a power similar to Gohan's, but that's it. Gohan and many others comment that Goten is just like Goku in so many ways, almost reincarnated. In Goku's guest role, what was Sean Schmeal's dub line? He asked Chi-Chi if there was a "Little Him" hiding behind her leg. Gohan really grew into his own as a character, being much deeper and much more developed than Goku had a chance to be in Z. Goten didn't really get anything more than a "Goku Reincarnated" implication, much like Goku Jr. in Hero's Legacy. And due to his lack of depth, we ended up with Goku's return and the creation of a radically much more interesting (if not cocky and annoying) Gotenks. But maybe that's just me.
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CritifyBlaster	Mar 31 2013, 11:17 AM Post #45
Super Blaster Posts: 378 Group: Member Member #9,084 Joined: February 21, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball- every series GT never existed in my head What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Bleach	Avatar Aang Mar 30 2013, 10:34 PM Yamcha and Krillin get the most hate on my Facebook page it seems. Believe me, on almost all DB pages, they are the ones who gets the most hate xD



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