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Your most unpopular DBZ belief ?
Topic Started: Mar 29 2013, 02:15 PM (6,582 Views)
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Alex KloonBoss
Mar 29 2013, 10:23 PM
Yakon > Frieza
Pui Pui > Frieza
Kaioshin > Frieza
Dr.Gero > Frieza
Android 19 > Frieza
Krillin EOZ > Frieza
Tien EOZ > Frieza

Frieza is a overrated character , who is just as overrated as his fanboys.
Frizea is the best villain in my opinion.

I would have the humans above Frizea by Buu saga to be honest which is a unpopular belief I think?

Also another unpopular belief I think Frizea is not that dwarfed by Buu saga due Goku being shocked about the Kai saying he can kill Frizea with a punch.
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zenet
Mar 29 2013, 10:41 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Mar 29 2013, 10:23 PM
Yakon > Frieza
Pui Pui > Frieza
Kaioshin > Frieza
Dr.Gero > Frieza
Android 19 > Frieza
Krillin EOZ > Frieza
Tien EOZ > Frieza

Frieza is a overrated character , who is just as overrated as his fanboys.
Frizea is the best villain in my opinion.

I would have the humans above Frizea by Buu saga to be honest which is a unpopular belief I think?

Also another unpopular belief I think Frizea is not that dwarfed by Buu saga due Goku being shocked about the Kai saying he can kill Frizea with a punch.

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His shock was probably more to do with someone outside of the Zet-Senshi accomplishing this task, especially when the 5 base Saiyans have proven themselves capable of one-shotting Freeza.
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zenet
Mar 29 2013, 10:41 PM
Also another unpopular belief I think Frizea is not that dwarfed by Buu saga due Goku being shocked about the Kai saying he can kill Frizea with a punch.
That can still be attributed to the fact that someone other than the Z Senshi were capable of the feat. The point works against you, anyways. If the weak Kaioshin can do it, then Freeza's certainly dwarfed, after all. It's a whole 2 major arcs after Freeza's, anyways, the guy doesn't need to be relevant at all anymore.

CC, I still don't think that Krillin's nonchalance is something solid to go off of to place him above Freeza. Something like that could be attributed to all those around him being capable of the feat, so a lord of the worlds doing it is no big deal. Different people, different mindsets.
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Mar 29 2013, 10:46 PM
CC, I still don't think that Krillin's nonchalance is something solid to go off of to place him above Freeza. Something like that could be attributed to all those around him being capable of the feat, so a lord of the worlds doing it is no big deal. Different people, different mindsets.
He still knew he should return home to #18 if it got dangerous. Even with his allies to back him up, a situation like that not being much is hard to imagine if he wasn't strong enough to do the same, especially if the opponent chose to pick him out just as Dabura did with Kibito.
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Mar 29 2013, 10:46 PM
zenet
Mar 29 2013, 10:41 PM
Also another unpopular belief I think Frizea is not that dwarfed by Buu saga due Goku being shocked about the Kai saying he can kill Frizea with a punch.
That can still be attributed to the fact that someone other than the Z Senshi were capable of the feat. The point works against you, anyways. If the weak Kaioshin can do it, then Freeza's certainly dwarfed, after all. It's a whole 2 major arcs after Freeza's, anyways, the guy doesn't need to be relevant at all anymore.

CC, I still don't think that Krillin's nonchalance is something solid to go off of to place him above Freeza. Something like that could be attributed to all those around him being capable of the feat, so a lord of the worlds doing it is no big deal. Different people, different mindsets.
I think that statement could mean both situations. Another reason I think this is Frizea is used as an example again in the new movie. I worded it wrong before I think he is dwarfed by Buu saga but not no were near as much as other people make it out.
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@CC: The only villain who could possibly do the same to Freeza at that point in the story in Krillin's mind was Boo, and they were under the impression that they were going to stop his revival, not fight him, and even Babidi likely wouldn't trouble him at this point since he was said to be powerless save for his troublesome magic.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the belief, but I don't think it's as set into stone as some others might think.
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Preventing Boo's revival still wasn't a certainty. The Zet-Senshi would've still known that Boo appearing could be a possibility, and would've been prepared for what they were up against.
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The fact that the fusion split upon entering Majin Buu's body because kai powers don't work on Majin's
That or how the heck Krillin was brought back to life in GT even though Shenron only has the ability to bring back someone back to life once.
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Fact that there were only the 4 sayians who survived..

I kinda wish more were alive.. seems realistic that some could have been on a different planet at the time.
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I think Broly could be a good live action movie villain.

Say, if they ever got around to having a GOOD live action franchise, instead of re-casting the actor for kid Gohan for a new actor to play adult Gohan for the Buu Saga movie, they could create a movie based on a Broly/Bojack combo movie, which would allow for the kid Gohan actor to grow up with the role with the time it would take to film that. Broly could go crazy after hearing baby Goten crying and getting reminded of baby Goku's cries.
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Future Gohan can use the Light of Death. I'm sorry, but that's just one of those things I have the potential to be hardheaded about. :)
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One of my opinions is that Super Saiyan is not a set multiplier and can't actually be calculated because it can be different for everyone. Having a set multiplier for the form completely contradicts everything that we know about Saiyans, and Vegeta's claim that "(we) Saiyans can't be reduced to numbers".

Also, it doesn't make sense why Saiyans train in Super Saiyan if the only way to increase SSj power is to train in base. Super Saiyan itself must have a different power scale than a simple "multiplier from base" if the Saiyans feel the need to train in it. This suggests that Super Saiyan power can be increased through training, and the power difference between base and Super Saiyan is either somewhat independent from, (or dare I say it) possibly not related to base at all.

Also, by having a set multiplier, Super Saiyan would be able to be easily estimated because the increase from base to transformed state would always be linear, which was the thing that Gero was having issues with when estimating Goku's power growth over time. The only reason why he hadn't foreseen Piccolo's increase was because of his fusion with Nail on Namek.

However, I understand that multipliers from base make power level lists way easier to make, so I'm not going to argue against people who choose to do that; but this belief of mine is the reason that you'll never see me make power level lists.
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The whole mystic form of gohan should've never existed.
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That Goku can hold back SSJ3 and was doing so against both Fat and Kid Buu.

Goku is a tiny bit ahead of Pre Gotenks.

Broly is weaker than SSJ2 Goku

PM Vegeta is a tiny bit ahead of Kid Gohan.

Broly didn't fight the Cell saga Z warriors.
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