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Mar 25 2013, 10:23 PM Post #16 |
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Super 17 arc SSj goku one shots Hirudigarn |
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Mar 25 2013, 11:01 PM Post #17 |
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GT overpowers the characters greatly. Base BoGT Goku = SSj3 Z Goku. So SSj2 Goku in the Super #17 arc would probably be around Vegito. He whips this insect around. |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 25 2013, 11:04 PM Post #18 |
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There is a lot more to it than that. |
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Mar 26 2013, 12:37 AM Post #19 |
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I see now, my lord. |
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Mar 26 2013, 12:41 AM Post #20 |
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SSJ goku>>SSJ vegeta>>Majuub>Super vegito |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 26 2013, 04:06 AM Post #21 |
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Super Saiyan Vegetto got passed up so quickly that it's astounding. |
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| Captain Cadaver | Mar 26 2013, 09:36 PM Post #22 |
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Vegeta was getting a compliment from Mu, not #17. Plus, Vegeta was only hanging in better than the rest of the Zet-Senshi, which didn't include Goku. There's not much to say that Super #17 used any less effort against Vegeta than he did against Goku, as he didn't seem to be taking the Zet-Senshi seriously. IIRC, Super #17 buffed up slightly when he absorbed Goku's Kamehameha, which he didn't when absorbing Vegeta's Final Shine Attack. Then again, he buffed up when absorbing #18's ki blasts, so that evidence is shaky. |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 26 2013, 09:38 PM Post #23 |
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Leave it to me to misread my own evidence. Still, it's a compliment nonetheless. I can't be arsed to go back upstairs and check to see what and when #17 absorbed people's attacks, but I do think he absorbed Goku's Kame beam. That was his main target, after all. So would there actually be any solid evidence for Goku? Edited by Pyrus, Mar 26 2013, 09:41 PM.
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| Captain Cadaver | Mar 26 2013, 10:43 PM Post #24 |
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Episode 45 Time: around 18m25s Context: Super No.17 just killed Gero Super No.17: "You Earth folk are nothing but small fries. Let's take care of this planet quickly, and begin making preparations for taking over the entire galaxy, Doctor Mu-sama." Doctor Mu: "You're right. So long as Son Goku is gone, there is nothing for us to fear." Mu's estimations are already that Goku>>Vegeta. While Super #17 showed disappointment with SSJ Goku, it's not as if Mu completely contradicted his stance on Goku being above the rest. Episode 46 Time: 9m25s Context: Goku has been knocked into the sea Doctor Mu: "Come on out, Goku! We know that you're not the kind of guy to give up after just that!" Mu knows that Goku won't be beaten easily from #17's attacks, which is a compliment just like what he gave Vegeta. |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 26 2013, 10:55 PM Post #25 |
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Well, yeah, Goku is clearly above Vegeta overall. It wasn't like Mu was only factoring in Goku's Super Saiyan power. |
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| Captain Cadaver | Mar 26 2013, 10:57 PM Post #26 |
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Yet he hadn't witnessed a form beyond that, had no way of finding out about any other form, and showed this by having no idea Goku had SS4. |
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| + Pyrus | Mar 26 2013, 11:20 PM Post #27 |
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He had no idea about Super Saiyan 2 or 3? |
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| Captain Cadaver | Mar 27 2013, 05:21 PM Post #28 |
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Did he show any knowledge of this at all? Granted, Vegeta and Gohan had showcased such against Super #17, but given how minor the physical difference between that and SSJ was, he probably wouldn't have noticed, or just believe the ki increase to just be their full SSJ power. He also had no way of knowing about SS3 unless someone such as Gero told him about it (assuming that not all of the Boo Arc filler was entirely retconned), but we have nothing to say that such a conversation happened. |
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Mar 30 2013, 02:09 PM Post #29 |
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Hirudegarn is buuhan level while base goku was having the upperhand against rildo who was stated to be stronger than majin buu, I believe he was talking abiut kid buu but gt follows anime and in the anime goku says that kid buu is on "a whole other level from any other majin boo" so base goku>=base rildo>anime kid buu>>>buuhan>hirudegarn, goku stomps |
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| Captain Cadaver | Mar 30 2013, 02:12 PM Post #30 |
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Goku referring to the Anime Pure Boo can't be possible, as he would also be in a different league than Berserk Gohan Boo, who even SSJ Vegetto struggled against and referred to the situation as being "close". However, it isn't until Super Vegeta Baby appears that Goku states someone to have the strongest ki he'd ever sensed. |
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