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LSSj Broly [M10] vs Good Buu
Topic Started: Mar 24 2013, 03:50 PM (6,550 Views)
Yoeri Mar 31 2013, 12:45 AM Post #106
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 12:48 AM Post #107
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Not valid Man are you serious, because it was never shown before of them transforming during a beam struggling they cant do it in movie 10. Am i hearing and seeing this right really because what does Transforming in Beam struggle in the past got to do with this


So your saying all the OOP pictures, Art and all that are useless because it was never shown anyone transforming during a beam struggle.

3 SSJ kamehameha beat broly correct when a SSJ2 kamehameha was stated by gohan to be useless. That make so much sense right

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Saberoph Mar 31 2013, 12:57 AM Post #108
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 What it has to do with is proving a Saiyan has always had that ability before M10.

It would be like Kakarrot is in a universe where he never learned Shunkan Idou, yet in a Movie he moved fast for a decent amount of distance where it wasn't the Shunkan Idou, and you say it was but, in this universe Kakarrot never had that ability.

Same rules apply, in this universe no Saiyan has ever had or shown the ability to Transform during a beam struggle, yet you're saying a Saiyan has, yet you fail to prove it with actual facts.
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 01:00 AM Post #109
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What it has to do with is proving a Saiyan has always had that ability before M10.

It would be like Kakarrot is in a universe where he never learned Shunkan Idou, yet in a Movie he moved fast for a decent amount of distance where it wasn't the Shunkan Idou, and you say it was but, in this universe Kakarrot never had that ability.

Same rules apply, in this universe no Saiyan has ever had or shown the ability to Transform during a beam struggle, yet you're saying a Saiyan has, yet you fail to prove it with actual facts.
It transforming while doing a kamehameha what is the big deal, he goes SSJ2 and Pumps more power into the kamehameha its not miracle work for goku or gohan like how goku did it against Yakon when he need more power he went SSJ2

Go ahead, Prove to me how broly died form 3 SSJ kamehameha when gohan SSJ2 kamehameha was stated to be useless.
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Saberoph Mar 31 2013, 01:23 AM Post #110
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 Umm...that wasn't a beam struggle, Kakarrot was just allowing Yakon to feed off his Ki.

Do I need to be a jerk again, or are you gonna prove to be that Gohan and Kakarrot has ALWAYS had that ability?
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 01:28 AM Post #111
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its the only thing closet to whatever your trying to prove. Or there is goku going KKx4 against vegeta

how is it an ability to go SSJ2 in a beam struggle. Its just transforming into another transformation while doing a kamehameha

and answer my question how can 3 SSJ kamehameha beat broly when a SSJ2 kamehameha was stated to be useless


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+ miguelnuva Mar 31 2013, 01:30 AM Post #112
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its the only thing closet to whatever your trying to prove. Or there is goku going KKx4 against vegeta

how is it an ability to go SSJ2 in a beam struggle.

and answer my question how can 3 SSJ kamehameha beat broly when a SSJ2 kamehameha was stated to be useless


Well for 1 a KHH would add energy together and MSSJ Goku is almost as strong as SSJ2 Gohan.

3 MSSJs of Goku, Gohan and Goten's KHH would be stronger than 1 KHH from a weakened SSJ2 Gohan.
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 01:31 AM Post #113
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1 SSJ2 kamehameha is 5x of SSJ2, 3 MSSJ Kamehameha which still has the weakened gohan -.- would be 3x of SSJ2 since a Kamehameha is 5x of the user

the 5x was stated to be useless against broly, Remind me how a weaker one beat broly

and is MSSJ close to SSJ2 gohan strength and I am the one that needs to prove me points
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Saberoph Mar 31 2013, 01:45 AM Post #114
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its the only thing closet to whatever your trying to prove. Or there is goku going KKx4 against vegeta

how is it an ability to go SSJ2 in a beam struggle. Its just transforming into another transformation while doing a kamehameha

and answer my question how can 3 SSJ kamehameha beat broly when a SSJ2 kamehameha was stated to be useless


Then you have been debunked, because the Kaioken isn't a Transformation , all it does is boast the users power, and it isn't even classified as a Transformation.

I just want you to know, that I don't like being a jerk, but it really gets on my nerves (In the forums or in real life) when someone makes claims and won't back them up.

I hope we can move on from this.
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 01:55 AM Post #115
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You must be proud of yourself for debunking something that was never shown before -.- Nothing shows that the saiyan cant transform in beam struggle because you never see it before until movie 10

If you can increase you power then there is no reason why you cant transform during it

you said 3 SSJ beat broly, explain to me how then a SSJ2 kamehameha would be useless
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Saberoph Mar 31 2013, 02:01 AM Post #116
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 I'm not proud of that, I wish it was done before, so you could have gone toe to toe with me.

Whatever happened her, I don't mean any of it personally...you have a lot of potential in posting in these forums, and I mean that in all seriousness. And this is coming from 10 years of posting in Forums.

Also, I never said that an SS2 Kamehameha would useless, from a storyline standpoint it would have been an SS2 Kamehameha.

Much like Gohan Vs. Dabra (And no...please no, I am not debating this here), the Diaz says Gohan was an SS2, but he's clearly an SS in the Manga, but from a storytelling standpoint Gohan should have been SS2.
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 02:05 AM Post #117
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I dont mean anything personal either it debating but by saying 3 SSJ kamehameha would beat broly that would mean gohan SSJ2 kamehameha (which is stronger then 3 SSJ kamehameha) Killed broly which doesn't make sense.

Good debate cya
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Saberoph Mar 31 2013, 02:11 AM Post #118
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 Well, Gohan was tired and beaten up pretty bad too. So, it makes sense that Gohan didn't go SS2 and since Gohan had his second bang shows that he didn't.
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Ryder Mar 31 2013, 02:13 AM Post #119
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I am talking about when gohan fought broly one on one. When he said the only way to beat him was the lava which means Lava>his SSJ2 kamehameha
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Saberoph Mar 31 2013, 02:20 AM Post #120
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 I always thought that was Gohan trying to get some separation, and I guess he thought he won because Broli didn't have an aura around him...which given how Illogical and inconsistent Toei is with feats and what you can and cannot withstand, in DBZ that Lava would've done nothing to Broli, but piss him off.

This is why I wish AT had created Broli in DBZ and not Toei in a Movie, his placement would've been much clearer.

No matter had he been SS, SS2 or even SS3 tier, we at least would have gotten a better reading on where he stands, and would've gotten something better than Kakarrot crying is what drove Broli crazy.
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