Is Eli Manning an elite QB in your opinion?

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Is Eli Manning an elite QB in your opinion?
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Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Mar 22 2013, 11:33 PM Post #16
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Pookie Mar 22 2013, 04:51 PM Why don't you go look at 4th quarter comebacks and you'll probably see Eli there. He is clutch. I think when it comes down to it you are just butt hurt your 49ers got owned by Eli and lost again to Joe flaccid. You don't win 2 superbowls in a 4 year spans because of luck. The reason the giannts beat the patriots was because they have a balanced team. Eli doesn't have to throw all the time because the team can run. When he does throw it, it ends up being clutch. Also, Eli hasn't missed a snap since he started his rookie season. When it comes down to it, he is dependable ans tough. I think someone once said regular season means Jack squat. Go look at his playoff record and then come talk to me. Oh and at least we didn't have a 30 min blackout to help us either. 4th quarter comebacks and Super Bowl rings: that's your best argument. Eli is great in the playoffs but that doesn't make him elite. Plus, he has a great defense that helped him a lot in those Super Bowl victories. Like I said, they held the Patriots to 14 points in 08 and 17 points in 2012. Plus, Welker and the other receivers dropped crucial passes. Eli can make game winning drives, definitely. But that doesn't automatically make him elite. Tom Brady stats: 4,827 passing yards 34 passing touchdowns 8 interceptions 63.0% comp Aaron Rodgers stats: 4,295 passing yards 39 passing touchdowns 8 interceptions 67.2% comp Drew Brees stats: 5,177 passing yards 43 passing touchdowns 19 interceptions 63.0% comp Peyton Manning stats: 4,659 passing yards 37 passing touchdowns 11 interceptions 68.6% comp Eli Manning stats (brace yourself): 3,948 passing yards 26 passing touchdowns 15 interceptions 59.9% comp
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Pookie	Mar 23 2013, 01:56 AM Post #17
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	Okay so you are comparing "primarily" throwing teams to a team that is balanced. Eli Manning doesn't have to throw the ball as much as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Peyton Manning because the Giants have a RUNNING game. None of those teams do. Eli Manning has never missed a snap. Eli Manning has never missed a game. Eli Manning has won 2 superbowls with tremendous throwing ability that could rival that of Peyton Manning. He put it only where his receivers could catch it. He beat teams that were supposed to be the best in the game. Eli is younger than both Peyton/Tom Brady. You can't spell elite without Eli. Eli is in one of the toughest, if not toughest, division in the NFL. Once again, you insulted the Giants' superbowl victories. Don't hate on the Giants victories please. They weren't lucky. They had to go through heck to get those wins. How about when the Saints bountied Brett Favre? They were completely outclassed by the Vikings in that game, yet they went for Brett Favre multiple times. I guess Brett Favre just wasn't lucky enough in that game. Also, Quote: Granted, Manning does have a bit of a gun slinger's mentality, which leads to some big interception totals, but so did Dan Marino, John Elway and Brett Favre—guys who were undoubtedly elite in their day. If I need to win one game for all the marbles, Manning is one of a handful of quarterbacks I trust. Since 2004, Manning has led 28 fourth-quarter or game-winning drives—more than Tom Brady (25). He's brought his team back from certain doom more times than I can count on my 20 digits, and he's won two Super Bowls in the process. If that's not the definition of an elite quarterback, then I need to find a new profession. Eli Manning has 28 comeback victories MORE THAN Tom Brady. How is that not an accomplishment or an elite status? Please. He is clutch. Edited by Pookie, Mar 23 2013, 02:03 AM.



~~Volt the Mean~~	Mar 23 2013, 03:52 AM Post #18
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Pookie Mar 23 2013, 01:56 AM Okay so you are comparing "primarily" throwing teams to a team that is balanced. Eli Manning doesn't have to throw the ball as much as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Peyton Manning because the Giants have a RUNNING game. None of those teams do. Eli Manning has never missed a snap. Eli Manning has never missed a game. Eli Manning has won 2 superbowls with tremendous throwing ability that could rival that of Peyton Manning. He put it only where his receivers could catch it. He beat teams that were supposed to be the best in the game. Eli is younger than both Peyton/Tom Brady. You can't spell elite without Eli. Eli is in one of the toughest, if not toughest, division in the NFL. Once again, you insulted the Giants' superbowl victories. Don't hate on the Giants victories please. They weren't lucky. They had to go through heck to get those wins. How about when the Saints bountied Brett Favre? They were completely outclassed by the Vikings in that game, yet they went for Brett Favre multiple times. I guess Brett Favre just wasn't lucky enough in that game. Eli Manning has 28 comeback victories MORE THAN Tom Brady. How is that not an accomplishment or an elite status? Please. He is clutch. Hmmm so just because he never missed a snap he's elite? Just because he's never missed a game he's elite? So if the Giants have such an amazingly balanced team and a great gun slinger behind center, uhh why didn't they make the playoffs this year? Oh please! the NFC East is the toughest division?! Lol that division is trash now Dallas? Eagles? LAWL The redskins made the playoffs with an injured running QB xD... Shouldn't Eli have been clutch enough to win more than 9 games? Almost a year ago ELI lead the first half of the year with int's and he's done that more than once. Comebacks? How many were meaningful though? Niners Vs. Giants that was the game for the big ticket, and in that game Eli didn't even outplay Alex Smith which is really sad, isn't eli ELIte? Eli in that game was playing "Mehh" and he wasn't clutch neither, he had a chance to win the game but didn't it was the NFC Championship! Also I get that sometimes you do need some luck to win a game, but when the MAIN outcome of the game is caused by not one but TWO muffed punts, Oh and Eli had both chances in the Niners side of the field, guess what he wasn't clutch, what a surprise. And the the SB Vs. the Patriots is the same thing Eli lobbed it which doesn't take much skill, the fact that he escaped that pass rush was a miracle, that led to him throwing a lob hoping someone would catch it and luckily enough the WR with the worst hands in the NFL caught the ball with his helmet if that isn't lucky I don't know what is. Both of those were probably the most meaningful games the Giants ever played and Eli wasn't "Elite" in neither. Peyton, Arron, and Brady are ELITE because they perform when its go time! Every season they play consistently great, they don't have constant hiccup games like Eli. Dan Marino who may have been the GREATEST QB of all time NEVER won a SB in his career, yet do people even doubt him of being elite? No they don't. Keep throwing empty stats at me, stats don't define "ELITE" players do, just because you win a SB doesn't mean your automatically elite if so you might as well call the backups elite too. Eli at this point in his career has been great, and if you say he is "ELITE" then your comparing him to Joe Montana, and Dan Marino, Brady, Peyton, which is a fu king dishonor to all those players I just mentioned. //THREAD Edited by Volt the Mean*, Mar 23 2013, 04:08 AM.



Pookie	Mar 23 2013, 04:41 PM Post #19
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	Okay so the Giants didn't make the playoffs this year. Wow, there are plenty of teams who go years without going to the playoffs. Is that your main argument? At least, we won a Superbowl in the last decade. The Giants do have a balanced team though. The main reason they didn't make the playoffs was bad performances towards the end. It happens. It is difficult for a team to go back to the Superbowl after winning it. Only a handful of teams, have done it. The NFC East is the toughest division. It has always been that way. What other division has more superbowl rings? Lets not forget the fact of who is on those teams as quarterbacks as of today. RG3??? Michael Vick??? Tony Romo??? Here is an empty fact for you about the divisions. Quote: Division Wins NFC East 12 Dallas(5) New York Giants(4) Washington(3) AFC North 8 Pittsburgh(6) Baltimore(2) AFC West 6 Oakland(3) Denver(2) Kansas City(1) NFC West 6 San Francisco(5) St. Louis(1) AFC East 6 New England(3) Miami(2) New York Jets(1) NFC North 5 Green Bay(4) Chicago(1) AFC South 2 Indianapolis(2) NFC South 2 Tampa Bay(1) New Orleans(1) Yeah, if the 49ers had a decent division, they probably would have ended up not making the playoffs either. They are in a division with who again? The Rams??? Seahawks??? Cardinals??? Besides the Cardinals, the rest of them have been weak for a lonnnng time. Seahawks have just recently become good. The last time I remember them being a factor was when they had Shaun Alexander at running back. So yeah, it has been a long time. I think the only dishonor is the bias you have towards the Giants. Eli Manning has already proven himself as an elite quarterback. In the future, he will continue to do so. I guess he has to win 10 superbowls. All of them will be out of luck of course. They'll have to be careful to not cause the other team to fumble. They'll have to draft reliable players for other teams too so that their superbowl victories will count. I should go tell Phil Simms and Lawrence Taylor that their Superbowl Victories were lucky too. I'll go tell Kerry Collins that in 2000 he needed a four leaf clover to defeat the Ravens. Maybe if we JUST HAD ENOUGH LUCK, we would have been able to defeat the Ravens rather than get demolished by forty points. I mean, according to your logic, every team's superbowl was not lucky except for the Giants. Bias much? The Saints, though you ignored the bountying on Brett Favre, won their superbowl in a legit fashion. The Patriots, though caught in a scandal, are also legit too. The Giants, who won with hard work and determination, are not legit because of some idiot on the opposite team who fumbled the ball. I mean it was the 49ers who drafted him. Shouldn't it be their fault? The Giants capitalized on the team's inability to pick reliable players. Buffalo Bills need to borrow Eli Manning's four leaf clover. They've gone to the Superbowl four times and have come home empty handed. Quote: Peyton, Arron, and Brady are ELITE because they perform when its go time! Every season they play consistently great, they don't have constant hiccup games like Eli. Isn't that what Eli does? He made the important throws that he had to do. As I could recall, Peyton and Brady didn't do jack squat this post season. Also, Peyton has CHOKED big time in some post season games, yet he is so awesome because he breaks records in regular season. He only has one superbowl ring to show for it though. Peyton Manning choked in big games. Yes, he does incredibly amazing during regular season. Yes, he is an elite quarterback. However, I remember someone saying that what counts is POST SEASON, which Eli Manning has thrived in. Whether you agree or not, that is on you. The numbers don't lie about Eli Manning in post season. He has more FOURTH quarter comebacks than Tom Brady. When it comes down to it, he gets the job done. Quote: Keep throwing empty stats at me, stats don't define "ELITE" players do, just because you win a SB doesn't mean your automatically elite if so you might as well call the backups elite too. The only one who puts empty stats is you. You probably don't even watch any of the games to realize why Eli's stats are lower than the people you mentioned. Some of his interceptions aren't even his fault. If we are talking abut interceptions, I guess Brett Favre sucks too because he broke the record for most interceptions. I am going to go tell the Packer's fans that Brett Favre is not a legend. Also, the stats you put up were of three Quarterbacks who HAVE to throw the ball in order for their team to thrive. When has New England ever had a running game? When did the Colts ever have a running game? If you did watch the games, you'd realize that the teams you posted are PRIMARILY throwing teams. The Giants like to keep it on the ground. I'm sure Peyton wouldn't be dishonored to know that his brother is an elite quarterback like himself. The only person who would be dishonored is yourself because you can't take the fact that Eli owns the 49ers. Eli Manning-32 years old Peyton Manning- 36 years old Tom Brady- 35 years old Quote: The conversation is starting to become more interesting when you consider the path in which Eli is heading. Last season, Eli posted a career-high 4,933 yards passing (sixth most in NFL history), which is 233 more than Peyton's best. His record breaking 15 fourth-quarter TD passes helped lead the Giants to eight victories in games they were either tied or trailing through three quarters Edited by Pookie**, Mar 23 2013, 05:06 PM.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Mar 23 2013, 05:06 PM Post #20
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Pookie Mar 23 2013, 01:56 AM Okay so you are comparing "primarily" throwing teams to a team that is balanced. Eli Manning doesn't have to throw the ball as much as Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, or Peyton Manning because the Giants have a RUNNING game. None of those teams do. Eli Manning has never missed a snap. Eli Manning has never missed a game. Eli Manning has won 2 superbowls with tremendous throwing ability that could rival that of Peyton Manning. He put it only where his receivers could catch it. He beat teams that were supposed to be the best in the game. Eli is younger than both Peyton/Tom Brady. You can't spell elite without Eli. Eli is in one of the toughest, if not toughest, division in the NFL. Once again, you insulted the Giants' superbowl victories. Don't hate on the Giants victories please. They weren't lucky. They had to go through heck to get those wins. How about when the Saints bountied Brett Favre? They were completely outclassed by the Vikings in that game, yet they went for Brett Favre multiple times. I guess Brett Favre just wasn't lucky enough in that game. Also, Quote: Granted, Manning does have a bit of a gun slinger's mentality, which leads to some big interception totals, but so did Dan Marino, John Elway and Brett Favre—guys who were undoubtedly elite in their day. If I need to win one game for all the marbles, Manning is one of a handful of quarterbacks I trust. Since 2004, Manning has led 28 fourth-quarter or game-winning drives—more than Tom Brady (25). He's brought his team back from certain doom more times than I can count on my 20 digits, and he's won two Super Bowls in the process. If that's not the definition of an elite quarterback, then I need to find a new profession. Eli Manning has 28 comeback victories MORE THAN Tom Brady. How is that not an accomplishment or an elite status? Please. He is clutch. Actually, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady do have running games. And having a rushing game doesn't make up for poor stats. And Eli Manning has to make 4th quarter comebacks because he was slacking in the first 3.
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Pookie	Mar 23 2013, 05:08 PM Post #21
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	Edit: What running game did Peyton Manning have at the Colts? What running game did the Patriots have in the past couple of years? I mostly see them throw the ball when I watch their games. Well I am wrong in that regard, but everything else I said is still legit. Quote: With all that said, if you asked either of these two brothers what matters most, neither would say their stats. Both would come back with the same answer: postseason success. That of course is Eli's ultimate trump card. While Peyton has struggled to a 9-10 record in the playoffs with only one Super Bowl ring on his finger, Eli has flourished to an 8-3 record, two Super Bowl victories and a quarterback record five wins on the road. Is that why Tom Brady has just a little less than Eli Manning in fourth quarter comebacks? I guess he slacks in some games too. The difference is Eli doesn't get down on himself. If he throws 3 picks, he can come back the next half and blow the competition out of the water. Everything else I posted was completely ignored too. Until someone looks at the quotes and actually responds to them, I have nothing more to say to this topic. In my eyes Eli and many others, Eli is an elite. Poor Stats: (You need to look at this again) Quote: The conversation is starting to become more interesting when you consider the path in which Eli is heading. Last season, Eli posted a career-high 4,933 yards passing (sixth most in NFL history), which is 233 more than Peyton's best. His record breaking 15 fourth-quarter TD passes helped lead the Giants to eight victories in games they were either tied or trailing through three quarters Edited by Pookie, Mar 23 2013, 05:24 PM.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Mar 23 2013, 05:20 PM Post #22
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	Well, you don't have to worry about Brady throwing 3 picks. And Eli led the league in turnovers 2010. Not elite. Eli Manning also does not play well consistently. He can have good games and clutch moments but when you look at each of his seasons he's not all that impressive. btw in 2012 the Patriots had a better rushing attack than the Giants.
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Pookie	Mar 23 2013, 05:24 PM Post #23
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	So you consider Brett Favre not elite too right? If we are talking about turnovers. Back to the superbowl argument. Quote: Only 10 quarterbacks have won two Super Bowl titles. Seven of them are in the Hall of Fame, and two others (Brady and Ben Roethlisberger of the Steelers) are still playing. If the first title didn't completely put him in the elite category, a second one would end the debate. From a Patriot fan: Quote: Being a Patriots fan, I'm definitely not a Eli Manning fan. But, if you look at his record since he entered the league, he has the 3rd best winning percentage. Sounds elite to me. http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/20/us/elite-eli link to article Edited by Pookie, Mar 23 2013, 05:49 PM.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Mar 23 2013, 05:57 PM Post #24
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	I don't think Brett Favre was ever an elite player, but he had a great career. Eli Manning is having a great career but I don't consider him elite. You take two quotes as if they somehow help your argument. Super Bowls don't mean a QB is elite. Dan Marino was considered by many to be elite. But he never won a Super Bowl. What is elite is someone who can play well consistently and break records. The elite class right now contains: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady. Those are guys who can consistently have great games and break records.
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Hurry My Curry	Mar 23 2013, 06:39 PM Post #25
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Definitely consider him elite myself. After the first ring, you could say that he isn't elite and get away with it. No way after the 2nd one. After all, being good in the post season is all that matters in the NFL. Peyton Manning is one of the greatest QB's of all time....in the regular season. He's a damn good choke artist in the playoffs though. Eli Manning's been in the league, what, 9 years? He has two superbowls. Peyton Manning's been in the league, what, 15 years? One superbowl. Enough said.
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Pookie	Mar 23 2013, 07:18 PM Post #26
Pookie Powa! Posts: 18,039 Group: Princesa Pookie Member #1,340 Joined: April 21, 2006 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome and Firefox	imjustsaiyanbro Mar 23 2013, 05:57 PM I don't think Brett Favre was ever an elite player, but he had a great career. Eli Manning is having a great career but I don't consider him elite. You take two quotes as if they somehow help your argument. Super Bowls don't mean a QB is elite. Dan Marino was considered by many to be elite. But he never won a Super Bowl. What is elite is someone who can play well consistently and break records. The elite class right now contains: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady. Those are guys who can consistently have great games and break records. 1. Brett Favre has broken plenty of records so yeah many do consider him elite. 2. I've added more than "2" quotes in my argument. 3. Three of the people you listed are older than Eli Manning. 4. Only 10 quarterbacks have 2 superbowls or more in NFL history. 9/10 of them are in the HOF.



Return Of Imjustsaiyanbro	Mar 23 2013, 08:08 PM Post #27
Elder Posts: 1,080 Group: Member Member #9,167 Joined: March 11, 2013 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga DB	So are you saying Eli just carried his team to the Super Bowls? Cuz Eli didn't need his defense to play well and he didn't need his receivers to make those spectacular completions. 1. Brett Favre made too many mistakes so I don't consider him elite. He was borderline elite. 2. golf clap 3. So what? They're better than Eli. 4. So is Ben Roethlisberger elite? And does that mean Rodgers isn't elite cuz he has one ring?
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~~Volt the Mean~~	Mar 24 2013, 03:59 AM Post #28
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Quote: Okay so the Giants didn't make the playoffs this year. Wow, there are plenty of teams who go years without going to the playoffs. Is that your main argument? At least, we won a Superbowl in the last decade. The Giants do have a balanced team though. The main reason they didn't make the playoffs was bad performances towards the end. It happens. It is difficult for a team to go back to the Superbowl after winning it. Only a handful of teams, have done it. SB's don't define elite, how many times do I have to tell you that, your main argument against me is SB rings, which is the most bulls@t answer ever. Eli hasn't been proven to be consistently great, he has to many off games, fcks around for the first 3 quarters and randomly shows up in the 4th. He doesn't come thru in the big games yea he beat the niners pretty bad last year but what about the year before that when his GW TD got swatted by Justin Smith, Or when he had TWO chances lead a game winning drive in the NFC championship which was a huge game, oh don't forget that was the game that led to his second ring, But he failed in both drives, where the hell was the clutchness you keep bickering about!? Yea he got his first ring Vs. the Patriots due to the luckiest play ever which tbh that games outcome was based off that play which is the luckiest play I've ever seen in my life. He DID NOT win those game his team did, and don't bring his team into this I could give a fck less about that. Were talking about ELI and how he is supposedly 'ELITE" Those were the two biggest games of his career and played at Alex Smith level in both, which is NOT ELITE! Your main argument is that he has SB rings, i don't care for stupid blank stats I'm interested in the player* Every post you keep jabbering about SB rings, true NFL fans see through that. Dan Marino imo the GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME HAD NONE! Really you still think the NFC East is the toughest division, did you even see any games last season The East has been trash the last three years Cowboys and Eagles were the laughingstock of the NFL last season, and the Giants got beat out for a playoff spot by a crippled rookie QB. Quote: Lets not forget the fact of who is on those teams as quarterbacks as of today. RG3??? Michael Vick??? Tony Romo??? Really? Tony Romo is TRASH. Michale Vick can't even hold on to the damn ball anymore and got benched for a rookie QB, Vick is now trash, RG3 is going to be great one day so I'll give you that. But at this point I'm really starting to doubt if you actually watch football at all, and if your just a Eli, stat crazed fan girl that's blinded by SB rings. I consider Farve, "Elite" because unlike Eli, Brett actually comes through in BIG GAMES and is actually clutch in meaningful games, a lot of his games have been memorable and been replayed on ESPN (when they actually did that) Every QB that I've named Elite like Brady, Rodgers, Peyton, and tbh I consider Drew Brees borderline Elite, well before the bounty scandal where half his team including coaches were suspended. All these QB are DOMINANT When I see Eli I don't see that, I see a guy who might have a great game or who might throw 4 int's. Switch your argument to something other than SB wins, or just stop it with your scapegoat bullst of an "argument" awaits the empty stats barrage* Once again... ///ENDTHREAD Edited by Volt the Mean, Mar 24 2013, 04:43 AM.



Hurry My Curry	Mar 24 2013, 07:02 AM Post #29
Master Troll Posts: 3,800 Group: Members Member #7,981 Joined: July 20, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	imjustsaiyanbro Mar 23 2013, 08:08 PM So are you saying Eli just carried his team to the Super Bowls? Cuz Eli didn't need his defense to play well and he didn't need his receivers to make those spectacular completions. 1. Brett Favre made too many mistakes so I don't consider him elite. He was borderline elite. 2. golf clap 3. So what? They're better than Eli. 4. So is Ben Roethlisberger elite? And does that mean Rodgers isn't elite cuz he has one ring? Same thing with elite QB's. Where would Brady be without his receivers? Where would he be without his O-Line. Of course it's a team sport, but at the end of the day, the QB is the one making the plays. I don't see how superbowls don't determine an elite QB. What's the point of being good in the regular season if you don't step up when it matters?
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~~Volt the Mean~~	Mar 24 2013, 08:08 AM Post #30
Posts: 909 Group: Suspended Member #8,024 Joined: July 28, 2012 Gender Male Country United States	Hurry My Curry Mar 24 2013, 07:02 AM imjustsaiyanbro Mar 23 2013, 08:08 PM So are you saying Eli just carried his team to the Super Bowls? Cuz Eli didn't need his defense to play well and he didn't need his receivers to make those spectacular completions. 1. Brett Favre made too many mistakes so I don't consider him elite. He was borderline elite. 2. golf clap 3. So what? They're better than Eli. 4. So is Ben Roethlisberger elite? And does that mean Rodgers isn't elite cuz he has one ring? Same thing with elite QB's. Where would Brady be without his receivers? Where would he be without his O-Line. Of course it's a team sport, but at the end of the day, the QB is the one making the plays. I don't see how superbowls don't determine an elite QB. What's the point of being good in the regular season if you don't step up when it matters? That is the problem Eli played at Alex Smith level in both of his major games, which in no way is "Elite" Edited by Volt the Mean, Mar 24 2013, 08:08 AM.



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