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Hypothetical SSjin 3 Vegetto (End of Z) vs. GT
Topic Started: Feb 25 2013, 11:27 AM (729 Views)
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Where would he reach? I personally think peak SSjin 4 Goku would beat him. He'd beat the rest barring Syn Shenron effortlessly. He might even pass SSjin 4 Goku....
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If you take this as 100% true

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then EoZ Vegetto overcomes GT as a mere Ssj, since base EoZ Goku and Vegeta are > Ssj2 of the Boo saga, thus making base EoZ Vegetto >>> Boo saga Ssj Vegetto.
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SSj3 Vegito {EoZ} = 30x SSj3 Vegito [Buu Saga]

While SSj3 Vegito [Buu Saga] loses to Great Ape baby ,

SSj3 Vegito {EoZ} can at least go up to Eis Shenron or below
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How come?

Because I don't believe it.
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I could see him reaching the low end of the third phase of GT, but that's about it. He wouldn't be taking down SSjin 4 Goku, Vegeta, Si Xing Long, Yi Xing Long, or especially Super Yi Xing Long and SSjin 4 Gogeta.
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Sjk8
Feb 25 2013, 11:34 AM
If you take this as 100% true
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then EoZ Vegetto overcomes GT as a mere Ssj, since base EoZ Goku and Vegeta are > Ssj2 of the Boo saga, thus making base EoZ Vegetto >>> Boo saga Ssj Vegetto.
And what exactly does that page say?
Anyway, considering I use fairly low multipliers for the stronger Saiyans such as Vegetto and those of GT, I'd calculate 28th TB SS3 Vegetto easily beating the likes of Golden Oozaru Vegeta Baby, Si Xing Long and SS4 Goku (as long as SS4 Goku dosen't hit him with a 10x Kamehameha or Ryu-ken, or so long as Si dosen't use that Fire Dome that almost killed Yi Xing Long). However, IMO he'd get trashed by Super #17 (post-10x Kamehameha absorption), nevermind the likes of Yi Xing Long or SS4 Beyond Limits Goku/SS4 Vegeta.
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Page says that SSJ Vegetto is perhaps stronger than SSJ4 Goku.

Which we all know is bull.
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For Boo Arc or 28th TB Vegetto?
If the former, then yeah, it's BS, especially when it's made quite clear that Super Vegeta Baby>SSJ Vegetto.
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Feb 25 2013, 06:26 PM
For Boo Arc or 28th TB Vegetto?
If the former, then yeah, it's BS, especially when it's made quite clear that Super Vegeta Baby>SSJ Vegetto.
Oh, no, it's 100% true! It's a guidebook and this is GT, after all. Anything that makes Z > GT is 100% fact, no questions asked. Right? ;)
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Feb 25 2013, 06:26 PM
For Boo Arc or 28th TB Vegetto?
If the former, then yeah, it's BS, especially when it's made quite clear that Super Vegeta Baby>SSJ Vegetto.


It's because of Goku and Old Kai's statements, right?

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Feb 25 2013, 07:00 PM
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Feb 25 2013, 06:26 PM
For Boo Arc or 28th TB Vegetto?
If the former, then yeah, it's BS, especially when it's made quite clear that Super Vegeta Baby>SSJ Vegetto.
Oh, no, it's 100% true! It's a guidebook and this is GT, after all. Anything that makes Z > GT is 100% fact, no questions asked. Right? ;)


That's why I put the word IF before that, KP.
So no, it's not obviously 100% true, and that's why I wanted to discuss about all of that stuff in your "Manga Gogeta's strength" topic, where I'm still waiting your reply. ^_^
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Feb 25 2013, 09:54 PM
It's because of Goku and Old Kai's statements, right?
Of course. Goku would know better than anyone (other than Vegeta) how strong SSJ Vegetto was.
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Feb 25 2013, 09:56 PM
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Feb 25 2013, 09:54 PM
It's because of Goku and Old Kai's statements, right?
Of course. Goku would know better than anyone (other than Vegeta) how strong SSJ Vegetto was.


But, about that, I can say the same thing happened, in Toei's world, between Goku and Fat Janemba: Goku, indeed, said Fat Janemba was the greatest Ki he ever felt, but then he kicked his butt as a Ssj3.
It's clear that, in this case, Goku wasn't considering his own power when he made that statement, so, for what we know, the same could go with SBV and Vegetto.

I'm not saying this is a fact, I'm only saying that this PoV could be another option/way to see things.
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Feb 25 2013, 09:54 PM
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Feb 25 2013, 06:26 PM
For Boo Arc or 28th TB Vegetto?
If the former, then yeah, it's BS, especially when it's made quite clear that Super Vegeta Baby>SSJ Vegetto.


It's because of Goku and Old Kai's statements, right?

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Feb 25 2013, 07:00 PM
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Feb 25 2013, 06:26 PM
For Boo Arc or 28th TB Vegetto?
If the former, then yeah, it's BS, especially when it's made quite clear that Super Vegeta Baby>SSJ Vegetto.
Oh, no, it's 100% true! It's a guidebook and this is GT, after all. Anything that makes Z > GT is 100% fact, no questions asked. Right? ;)


That's why I put the word IF before that, KP.
So no, it's not obviously 100% true, and that's why I wanted to discuss about all of that stuff in your "Manga Gogeta's strength" topic, where I'm still waiting your reply. ^_^
I wasn't directing that toward you. :p It was geared toward the kids that hate GT so much that they're desperate for absolutely anything that will further harm it or make Z look better in comparison.

And I'm gonna reply, don't worry!
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Feb 25 2013, 10:08 PM
But, about that, I can say the same thing happened, in Toei's world, between Goku and Fat Janemba: Goku, indeed, said Fat Janemba was the greatest Ki he ever felt, but then he kicked his butt as a Ssj3.
It's clear that, in this case, Goku wasn't considering his own power when he made that statement, so, for what we know, the same could go with SBV and Vegetto.

I'm not saying this is a fact, I'm only saying that this PoV could be another option/way to see things.
That Movie 12 comparision dosen't really say much, as Vegetto may be partially Goku, but isn't truly Goku. I see it being too clear that Goku was noting Vegetto's inferiority with that statement. After all, if he didn't include Vegetto, he would've already made the same statement when sensing that Rilld's ki was greater than Boo's.
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