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MSSJ3 Goku (7 years after Z) vs a rusty Ultimate Gohan
Topic Started: Feb 25 2013, 05:57 AM (2,043 Views)
IllogicalGlory
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MSSJ3 = Able to become/sustain one without effort
Rusty Ultimate Gohan = Gohan 7 years after Z with no training or power increases

EDIT: Amend the fight to Goku vs any Buu saga character that was much stronger than him. (Gotenks at any level, Super Buu, etc)
Edited by IllogicalGlory, Feb 25 2013, 06:09 AM.
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That's a big gap to fill, especially being limited to Earth training.

Even if Gohan is rusty, all he needs his the power he possess to take down his father easily.
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Being able to use the form to its fullest still wouldn't put him anywhere near Gotenks, let alone Gohan.
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Unless Goku get's an insane boost from mastering the Super Saiyan 3 form, I doubt he'd be able to touch Gohan.
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IllogicalGlory
Feb 25 2013, 05:57 AM
Amend the fight to Goku vs any Buu saga character that was much stronger than him. (Gotenks at any level, Super Buu, etc)
That's what I wanted the topic to be originally, don't know why I put Gohan.
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Feb 25 2013, 07:09 AM
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Feb 25 2013, 05:57 AM
Amend the fight to Goku vs any Buu saga character that was much stronger than him. (Gotenks at any level, Super Buu, etc)
That's what I wanted the topic to be originally, don't know why I put Gohan.
My answer sticks, then. Gotenks (post-BBQ) and anyone on his level or higher would still defile Goku's body after decapitating him.
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So this is seven years after Z?

I reckon he'd maybe be able to pop Gotenks, but definitely not Gohan.
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Feb 25 2013, 07:40 AM
So this is seven years after Z?

I reckon he'd maybe be able to pop Gotenks, but definitely not Gohan.
OBJECTION!

If Base Goku at the end of Z was only about on par with Kid Boo, and Base Gotenks (post) was leagues ahead of that, then unless Gotenks has much smaller multipliers, he should be wiffle batting Goku away. :x
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Feb 25 2013, 07:53 AM
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Feb 25 2013, 07:40 AM
So this is seven years after Z?

I reckon he'd maybe be able to pop Gotenks, but definitely not Gohan.
OBJECTION!

If Base Goku at the end of Z was only about on par with Kid Boo, and Base Gotenks (post) was leagues ahead of that, then unless Gotenks has much smaller multipliers, he should be wiffle batting Goku away. :x
Well I only have like a 1.6x difference between SSJ3 Goku and Base Gotenks, and since this is a seven year gap I just assume Goku would be able to match it.

One of these days I'll make a PL list so you can tear it to shreds :lol:
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You don't see the potential in Goku, the times when he turned SSJ3 in Buu Saga, must have been his first few times because if he did use that a lot in the kai o world, they would have known [ the people in Earth ] as how Goku mastered SSJ1, it made his first SSJ transformation look like nothing. Just think about how strong it would be if Goku mastered SSJ3, back in Buu saga, SSJ3 was not stable. And Gohan may have the same power that kai o shin gave, but Gohans fighting style would be rusty, while Goku would spend 6/7 of the 7 years training. Goku takes this one, you guys are seriously underestimating Goku. :D
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Feb 25 2013, 07:57 AM
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Feb 25 2013, 07:53 AM
Crashbreaka
Feb 25 2013, 07:40 AM
So this is seven years after Z?

I reckon he'd maybe be able to pop Gotenks, but definitely not Gohan.
OBJECTION!

If Base Goku at the end of Z was only about on par with Kid Boo, and Base Gotenks (post) was leagues ahead of that, then unless Gotenks has much smaller multipliers, he should be wiffle batting Goku away. :x
Well I only have like a 1.6x difference between SSJ3 Goku and Base Gotenks, and since this is a seven year gap I just assume Goku would be able to match it.

One of these days I'll make a PL list so you can tear it to shreds :lol:

WAIT A MINUTE!

I totally read this wrong. I thought this was 7 years after Boo. Oh *****. In that case, Goku still gets roflstomped IMO, but yeah, you have every right to think he could get to Gotenks. :lol:
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Feb 25 2013, 08:03 AM
You don't see the potential in Goku, the times when he turned SSJ3 in Buu Saga, must have been his first few times because if he did use that a lot in the kai o world, they would have known [ the people in Earth ] as how Goku mastered SSJ1, it made his first SSJ transformation look like nothing. Just think about how strong it would be if Goku mastered SSJ3, back in Buu saga, SSJ3 was not stable. And Gohan may have the same power that kai o shin gave, but Gohans fighting style would be rusty, while Goku would spend 6/7 of the 7 years training. Goku takes this one, you guys are seriously underestimating Goku. :D

Mastering a form doesn't grant a power boost. It's what that person does after mastering it that matters. Mastering Super Saiyan allowed Goku and Gohan to stay in the form longer and train harder, and that's why they got so powerful, aside from just training with each other.

Though I do agree that Goku would be a lot stronger and Gohan would likely be rusty, I still don't think the full-blood could take down the half-breed.
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Mastering SSJ didn't make Goku stronger, 'twas the training he did along with it that did the trick..
Anyways, when considering that a hybrid's limits >>> a pure blood's limits, and then Gohan's gone far beyond those limits, and then considering that Gohan at best just barely blows Gotenks out of the water, I say Goku beats SSJ2 Gotenks at best.

Post up da list soon, crash.
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I don't see Goku getting anywhere close to Base Gotenks Post Roast , let alone a UGohan.
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Feb 25 2013, 05:59 AM
That's a big gap to fill, especially being limited to Earth training.

Even if Gohan is rusty, all he needs his the power he possess to take down his father easily.
Who said Goku was limited to earth training? He has IT and a free pass to the world of the Kai's, Yardrat, Namek, and otherworld. He theoretically can renter ROSAT because while you can only use the room 2days in a lifetime, he has the life of a Kai. Not to mention 7 years after 7 would include training with Uub

If Goku is Kid Buu tier which is his old ssj3 selfat the tourney, I see no reason why he can't beat Gohan or Gotenks with 3 more transformations all mastered and 7 more years to train. His power would be close IMO, and if that's close Gohan would be beat because he's not really that polished of a fighter
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Feb 25 2013, 08:14 AM
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Feb 25 2013, 07:57 AM
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Feb 25 2013, 07:53 AM
Crashbreaka
Feb 25 2013, 07:40 AM
So this is seven years after Z?

I reckon he'd maybe be able to pop Gotenks, but definitely not Gohan.
OBJECTION!

If Base Goku at the end of Z was only about on par with Kid Boo, and Base Gotenks (post) was leagues ahead of that, then unless Gotenks has much smaller multipliers, he should be wiffle batting Goku away. :x
Well I only have like a 1.6x difference between SSJ3 Goku and Base Gotenks, and since this is a seven year gap I just assume Goku would be able to match it.

One of these days I'll make a PL list so you can tear it to shreds :lol:

WAIT A MINUTE!

I totally read this wrong. I thought this was 7 years after Boo. Oh *****. In that case, Goku still gets roflstomped IMO, but yeah, you have every right to think he could get to Gotenks. :lol:
CritifyBlaster
Feb 25 2013, 08:03 AM
You don't see the potential in Goku, the times when he turned SSJ3 in Buu Saga, must have been his first few times because if he did use that a lot in the kai o world, they would have known [ the people in Earth ] as how Goku mastered SSJ1, it made his first SSJ transformation look like nothing. Just think about how strong it would be if Goku mastered SSJ3, back in Buu saga, SSJ3 was not stable. And Gohan may have the same power that kai o shin gave, but Gohans fighting style would be rusty, while Goku would spend 6/7 of the 7 years training. Goku takes this one, you guys are seriously underestimating Goku. :D

Mastering a form doesn't grant a power boost. It's what that person does after mastering it that matters. Mastering Super Saiyan allowed Goku and Gohan to stay in the form longer and train harder, and that's why they got so powerful, aside from just training with each other.

Though I do agree that Goku would be a lot stronger and Gohan would likely be rusty, I still don't think the full-blood could take down the half-breed.
Oh well, must have took 'mastered' in another definition because I watch Naruto = Rasengan > Destroys 3/0.2 of a tree Mastered Rasengan> Destroys 3/2/9 of a tree.

Like Jiraiyas sage mode and Narutos mastered sage mode, I mean, if they master it, wouldn't it be stronger? That's what I meant.

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