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Yamcha(23rd) vs old piccolo daimao
Topic Started: Feb 24 2013, 09:15 PM (2,547 Views)
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Feb 24 2013, 11:35 PM
As already shown, there's a lot to place Yamcha ahead of Prime Daimao, nevermind his old self, in terms of feats and statements, yet absolutely nothing for Daimao>Yamcha. Yamcha takes this without trying.

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Who in the 23rd budokai is below piccolo daimao?

Manga-wise, Chichi, Chaozu and Chappa (wow, 3 Ch's). Possibly Tao as well if not including the Super Dodonpa. Anime-wise, Chichi would also be above him, given a filler statement from Piccolo that he'd finally get to see Goku's full power from fighting an opponent like Chichi.
Are you forgetting about yajirobe?
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Yeah, forgot about him.
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You are missing my point.


I understand what your saying but it sounds to me like your trying to ignore the indications so you can put him above the humans.


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1. Kami knows Piccolo Daimao, and knows what a threat he would be. He wouldn't take the fight lightly.


Goku who's equal to Piccolo Daimao was fodderized by a finger from Kami and Popo who said his nowhere near Kami's power trolled Goku, so yeah I dont think Kami would think of Daimao as any sort of threat.


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2. Yamcha caught Kami off guard. Kami thought the attack was over.


Irrelevant, since it was the Spirit Ball it's self that knocked Kami off his feet.
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I understand what your saying but it sounds to me like your trying to ignore the indications so you can put him above the humans.


I was just merely saying Kami never called Piccolo Daimao for trash.

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Goku who's equal to Piccolo Daimao was fodderized by a finger from Kami and Popo who said his nowhere near Kami's power trolled Goku, so yeah I dont think Kami would think of Daimao as any sort of threat.


You are forgetting the history. Even if Piccolo Daimao is no threat, it is still Kami's evil counterpart.

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Irrelevant, since it was the Spirit Ball it's self that knocked Kami off his feet.


So, you're saying Yamcha never did knock Kami off his feet?
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it is still Kami's evil counterpart.


What's that suppose to mean? He would still get toyed with like how Yamcha was.



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So, you're saying Yamcha never did knock Kami off his feet?


Im saying Yamcha's technique knocked Kami off his feet something that I dont see Daimao with any of his techniques doing.
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Feb 25 2013, 12:39 AM
You are forgetting the history. Even if Piccolo Daimao is no threat, it is still Kami's evil counterpart.
Point is, it goes against your claim that he would view Daimao as a threat and not take the fight lightly; not relevant anyways.

I'd give it to Yamcha simply because while there are implications of him being greater than Daimao, there aren't any putting him under Daimao from what I remember.
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Feb 25 2013, 08:14 AM
Emmeth
Feb 25 2013, 12:39 AM
You are forgetting the history. Even if Piccolo Daimao is no threat, it is still Kami's evil counterpart.
Point is, it goes against your claim that he would view Daimao as a threat and not take the fight lightly; not relevant anyways.

I'd give it to Yamcha simply because while there are implications of him being greater than Daimao, there aren't any putting him under Daimao from what I remember.
I don't believe it because there are no feats to back it up. #GotenksDebate
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That's essentially what many if not most debates involving the humans turn out to be, like the Chi Chi debates, or the Chapa-o debates, or the Yamcha post-Saibaman battle debates (weyt, it's always bad4Yamcha :rofl: ).
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The old man stomped 22nd Goku with 40% of his powers, and I can see 23rd Yamcha only being like 10% above 22nd BT Goku. Yamcha's only chance here is the spirit ball.
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Feb 25 2013, 09:00 AM
The old man stomped 22nd Goku with 40% of his powers, and I can see 23rd Yamcha only being like 10% above 22nd BT Goku. Yamcha's only chance here is the spirit ball.
So basically, you're ignoring at least 2 uncontradicted statements which place 23rd TB Yamcha easily above Prime Piccolo Daimao?
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It's just so hard for me to imagine Piccolo Daimao as easily dispatched by Kami.

1. They are the same being, which would imply they are equally strong. (This is contradicted however)
2. And maybe a bit childish, but he's one of my favorite characters :T_T:
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As you said, your first point was completely contradicted. Daimao was just as strong as post-Choshinsui Goku, possibly weaker by an insignificant amount, so he'd just get flicked away by Kami or owned by Popo in a similar manner to how Goku was.
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Manga-wise, Chichi, Chaozu and Chappa (wow, 3 Ch's). Possibly Tao as well if not including the Super Dodonpa. Anime-wise, Chichi would also be above him, given a filler statement from Piccolo that he'd finally get to see Goku's full power from fighting an opponent like Chichi.

How is chappa, tao and chi chi stronger than piccolo manga-wise?

I agree though, there's no solid evidence for Piccolo daimao> krillin and yamcha. It just seems logical that he is still stronger; Its the general mood of the characters (tien and goku especially) towards piccolo jr before and after his Superior strength in comparison to his father is ascertained and mentioned(goku telling the others) that makes it logical.
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Feb 25 2013, 09:44 PM
How is chappa, tao and chi chi stronger than piccolo manga-wise?
He asked which 23rd TB competitors were weaker than Daimao, not stronger.
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Feb 25 2013, 09:54 PM
Nanho
Feb 25 2013, 09:44 PM
How is chappa, tao and chi chi stronger than piccolo manga-wise?
He asked which 23rd TB competitors were weaker than Daimao, not stronger.
Oh sorry about that, I didnt even read his comment before responding to yours. Man, I've making a lot of mistakes lately. I'm going to refrain from posting for a while, I'm too stressed out with all the **** I'm doing.
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