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Kamiccolo vs #18 and #17
Topic Started: Feb 21 2013, 02:03 AM (1,489 Views)
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 21 2013, 06:59 AM
Why'd he enter the RoSaT, Whilis?
Why didn't he enter a second time if he was that close already after one visit, Chubs?
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Kamikaze Pyro
Feb 21 2013, 05:33 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 21 2013, 06:59 AM
Why'd he enter the RoSaT, Whilis?
Why didn't he enter a second time if he was that close already after one visit, Chubs?
Goku said he's useless. That's why he didn't enter a second time.
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supersaqer
Feb 21 2013, 05:49 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Feb 21 2013, 05:33 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 21 2013, 06:59 AM
Why'd he enter the RoSaT, Whilis?
Why didn't he enter a second time if he was that close already after one visit, Chubs?
Goku said he's useless. That's why he didn't enter a second time.
If the reason Piccolo asked Goku if he was relevant to Cell was because he was closing in on that level of power after just one trip to the BBQ, why didn't he just go back in for a second trip?

Piccolo (1 BBQ) <<< Cell
Piccolo (2 BBQs) </< Cell

No?
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Piccolo nearing 50% MSSJ Goku is fine by me.

He one-shots those twinz.
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OK, let's look at this.

Goku displayed his 50% power (which was 100% to everyone at the time) and still said he was weaker than Cell, that he couldn't beat him. Piccolo then asked if he stood any chance against Cell, which logically would make no sense if he wasn't at or near Goku's level, and Goku said no. Goku had knowledge that Piccolo didn't, but the fact remains. So if, after one BBQ, Piccolo was already at a level where he could ask something like that, then what stopped him from going back in for a second BBQ and achieving his goal?

That's my question.
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Feb 21 2013, 06:09 PM
OK, let's look at this.

Goku displayed his 50% power (which was 100% to everyone at the time) and still said he was weaker than Cell, that he couldn't beat him. Piccolo then asked if he stood any chance against Cell, which logically would make no sense if he wasn't at or near Goku's level, and Goku said no. Goku had knowledge that Piccolo didn't, but the fact remains. So if, after one BBQ, Piccolo was already at a level where he could ask something like that, then what stopped him from going back in for a second BBQ and achieving his goal?

That's my question.
Goku flat out states that going in the room twice is basically torture rather than training.
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Feb 21 2013, 06:20 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Feb 21 2013, 06:09 PM
OK, let's look at this.

Goku displayed his 50% power (which was 100% to everyone at the time) and still said he was weaker than Cell, that he couldn't beat him. Piccolo then asked if he stood any chance against Cell, which logically would make no sense if he wasn't at or near Goku's level, and Goku said no. Goku had knowledge that Piccolo didn't, but the fact remains. So if, after one BBQ, Piccolo was already at a level where he could ask something like that, then what stopped him from going back in for a second BBQ and achieving his goal?

That's my question.
Goku flat out states that going in the room twice is basically torture rather than training.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P1.3-4, P2.1-4
Context: talking about the Room of Spirit and Time
Vegeta: “Well, well…So even the great Kakarot admits defeat against the rigors of that room…”
Goku: “Maybe…But pointlessly toughening up my body more than this is just torture, not training. But I won’t object if you guys enter that room again. It looks like you still have room left to toughen up more.”

That isn't saying using it twice is torture. :p
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Feb 21 2013, 06:23 PM
GridZero
Feb 21 2013, 06:20 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Feb 21 2013, 06:09 PM
OK, let's look at this.

Goku displayed his 50% power (which was 100% to everyone at the time) and still said he was weaker than Cell, that he couldn't beat him. Piccolo then asked if he stood any chance against Cell, which logically would make no sense if he wasn't at or near Goku's level, and Goku said no. Goku had knowledge that Piccolo didn't, but the fact remains. So if, after one BBQ, Piccolo was already at a level where he could ask something like that, then what stopped him from going back in for a second BBQ and achieving his goal?

That's my question.
Goku flat out states that going in the room twice is basically torture rather than training.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P1.3-4, P2.1-4
Context: talking about the Room of Spirit and Time
Vegeta: “Well, well…So even the great Kakarot admits defeat against the rigors of that room…”
Goku: “Maybe…But pointlessly toughening up my body more than this is just torture, not training. But I won’t object if you guys enter that room again. It looks like you still have room left to toughen up more.”

That isn't saying using it twice is torture. :p
Viz fails me.....

AGAIN.
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Freakin' Viz...

Well, it's possible that Piccolo just sort of 'hit his limit'. He's not shown to get much stronger at all, even in the 7-year gap
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Miles Edgeworth
Feb 21 2013, 06:31 PM
Freakin' Viz...

Well, it's possible that Piccolo just sort of 'hit his limit'. He's not shown to get much stronger at all, even in the 7-year gap
Limits reset. It has been proved at many points in teh series.
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GridZero
Feb 21 2013, 06:24 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Feb 21 2013, 06:23 PM
GridZero
Feb 21 2013, 06:20 PM
Kamikaze Pyro
Feb 21 2013, 06:09 PM
OK, let's look at this.

Goku displayed his 50% power (which was 100% to everyone at the time) and still said he was weaker than Cell, that he couldn't beat him. Piccolo then asked if he stood any chance against Cell, which logically would make no sense if he wasn't at or near Goku's level, and Goku said no. Goku had knowledge that Piccolo didn't, but the fact remains. So if, after one BBQ, Piccolo was already at a level where he could ask something like that, then what stopped him from going back in for a second BBQ and achieving his goal?

That's my question.
Goku flat out states that going in the room twice is basically torture rather than training.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P1.3-4, P2.1-4
Context: talking about the Room of Spirit and Time
Vegeta: “Well, well…So even the great Kakarot admits defeat against the rigors of that room…”
Goku: “Maybe…But pointlessly toughening up my body more than this is just torture, not training. But I won’t object if you guys enter that room again. It looks like you still have room left to toughen up more.”

That isn't saying using it twice is torture. :p
Viz fails me.....

AGAIN.

Yeah, that wouldn't make sense anyway. "Going in twice is torture, but eh, you guys should go back in." Derp?

My Viz doesn't have that.
Miles Edgeworth
Feb 21 2013, 06:31 PM
Freakin' Viz...

Well, it's possible that Piccolo just sort of 'hit his limit'. He's not shown to get much stronger at all, even in the 7-year gap

Hn, could be... When Vegeta taunts Goku about coming out early, Goku says they should go back in because they have room for improvement. He doesn't say this to Piccolo when they talk.
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When I say relevant to 50% Goku, I mean relevant enough so that 2 Piccolos can best him...

Goku - 100
--- 50% - 50
Pikkoro-san - 35

Besides, Goku would rather have Piccolo split, and he knows his FP. Piccolo got da message, ya dig?
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You've got a point, Super.

The main reason I think he hit is limit is because he didn't go back in. If he was capable of making even minor gains, I think he would've gone back in.
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