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Give me your LSSJ multipliers.
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+ miguelnuva	Feb 20 2013, 02:16 AM Post #31
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:09 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:08 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:03 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:02 AM I didn't use M12 for what I said. AT the end of M11 Goku is told Broly is acting up in Hell, Goku and Pikkon are sent down to fight him. Since that universe is never touched again you can assume that Goku won as he is the hero. Assuming highest forms are used at the time of M11 Goku had SSJ2 and Broly had LSSJ. No. Broly defeated Goku in M11. Paragus came out in M12 and proved it. m11 and m12 aren't connected and if they were that would further prover SSJ2 Goku> LSSJ Broly. We know the fight happened in M11, we don't know the outcome but since Goku is the hero of the story it is safe to assume that he won the fight against Broly and assuming were using the strongest forms for the fight SSJ2 Goku>LSSJ Broly>SSJ Broly>MSSJ Goku>Broly>Goku. No. Goku never won his last battle before he fought Broly. *Lost to Cell So he would lose against Broly. Gohan bet Cell and the main timeline continued. Broly never won a fight in his movies either, Goku is the hero, the hero always wins at the end of a story, had Broly won M12 would have been about him, but he was never touched again by Toei. Toei was done with Broly and he lost in M11.
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~~Kise Ryouta~~	Feb 20 2013, 02:18 AM Post #32
The Unrestricted Debater Posts: 255 Group: Suspended Member #9,007 Joined: February 8, 2013	miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:16 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:09 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:08 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:03 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:02 AM I didn't use M12 for what I said. AT the end of M11 Goku is told Broly is acting up in Hell, Goku and Pikkon are sent down to fight him. Since that universe is never touched again you can assume that Goku won as he is the hero. Assuming highest forms are used at the time of M11 Goku had SSJ2 and Broly had LSSJ. No. Broly defeated Goku in M11. Paragus came out in M12 and proved it. m11 and m12 aren't connected and if they were that would further prover SSJ2 Goku> LSSJ Broly. We know the fight happened in M11, we don't know the outcome but since Goku is the hero of the story it is safe to assume that he won the fight against Broly and assuming were using the strongest forms for the fight SSJ2 Goku>LSSJ Broly>SSJ Broly>MSSJ Goku>Broly>Goku. No. Goku never won his last battle before he fought Broly. Lost to Cell So he would lose against Broly. Gohan bet Cell and the main timeline continued. Broly never won a fight in his movies either, Goku is the hero, the hero always wins at the end of a story, had Broly won M12 would have been about him, but he was never touched again by Toei. Toei was done with Broly and he lost in M11. 1. Gohan "bet" Cell, but Cell "bet" Goku. 2. Heroes never win all the time. And really? Broly defeated Trunks, Gohan, and Goku in round 1 on Movie 8. He defeated Gohan, Goten, and Trunks in M10. Until round 3. 3. LOL. Edited by Kise Ryouta*, Feb 20 2013, 02:18 AM.



~~Frankie~~	Feb 20 2013, 02:19 AM Post #33
Posts: 573 Group: GTFO Member #593 Joined: August 8, 2005	X10,X 20 , X 30.



+ miguelnuva	Feb 20 2013, 02:24 AM Post #34
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:18 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:16 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:09 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:08 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:03 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:02 AM . 1. Gohan "bet" Cell, but Cell "bet" Goku. 2. Heroes never win all the time. And really? Broly defeated Trunks, Gohan, and Goku in round 1 on Movie 8. He defeated Gohan, Goten, and Trunks in M10. Until round 3. 3. LOL. 1. It doesn't matter, Gohan vs Cell was the final battle so only Gohan needed to win. 2. Broly never won the fight he carried the advantage in certain rounds as you put it then lost in the closing moments. Broly always had one long battle not many shorter battles like Frieza and Cell had with the Z fighters. 3. Goku vs Broly was the final battle in the M11 universe when have you ever seen a hero lose the final battle in a universe.
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~~Kise Ryouta~~	Feb 20 2013, 02:44 AM Post #35
The Unrestricted Debater Posts: 255 Group: Suspended Member #9,007 Joined: February 8, 2013	miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:24 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:18 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:16 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:09 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:08 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:03 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:02 AM . 1. Gohan "bet" Cell, but Cell "bet" Goku. 2. Heroes never win all the time. And really? Broly defeated Trunks, Gohan, and Goku in round 1 on Movie 8. He defeated Gohan, Goten, and Trunks in M10. Until round 3. 3. LOL. 1. It doesn't matter, Gohan vs Cell was the final battle so only Gohan needed to win. 2. Broly never won the fight he carried the advantage in certain rounds as you put it then lost in the closing moments. Broly always had one long battle not many shorter battles like Frieza and Cell had with the Z fighters. 3. Goku vs Broly was the final battle in the M11 universe when have you ever seen a hero lose the final battle in a universe. 1. No. 2. Winning doesn't mean killing the opponent. Goku literally said Broly won round one. Quit denying it. 3. No it isn't.



+ miguelnuva	Feb 20 2013, 02:56 AM Post #36
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:44 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:03 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 02:02 AM . 1. Gohan "bet" Cell, but Cell "bet" Goku. 2. Heroes never win all the time. And really? Broly defeated Trunks, Gohan, and Goku in round 1 on Movie 8. He defeated Gohan, Goten, and Trunks in M10. Until round 3. 3. LOL. 1. It doesn't matter, Gohan vs Cell was the final battle so only Gohan needed to win. 2. Broly never won the fight he carried the advantage in certain rounds as you put it then lost in the closing moments. Broly always had one long battle not many shorter battles like Frieza and Cell had with the Z fighters. 3. Goku vs Broly was the final battle in the M11 universe when have you ever seen a hero lose the final battle in a universe. 1. No. 2. Winning doesn't mean killing the opponent. Goku literally said Broly won round one. Quit denying it. 3. No it isn't. [/quote]1. What? The last battle in the Cell games the hero won, the last fight in the Brolyverse is Goku vs Broly. 2. Yeah he won round 1, a fight is more than 1 round. To win a fight in DBZ you must make the opponent surrender, kill them or beat them to the point where they can no longer fight. Since Broly fights multiple opponents he never did this to all of his opponents. 3. So something else happened in the Broly trilogy universe that we didn't see?
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~~Kise Ryouta~~	Feb 20 2013, 02:57 AM Post #37
The Unrestricted Debater Posts: 255 Group: Suspended Member #9,007 Joined: February 8, 2013	1. Goku died from Cell. 2. You don't win a fight from killing people. 3. Yes. Goku winning against Broly. It never happened.



SSJ	Feb 20 2013, 02:58 AM Post #38
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	SuperSaiyan2 Feb 19 2013, 10:29 PM I'd say about 1x



+ Pyrus	Feb 20 2013, 03:01 AM Post #39
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	SuperSaiyan2 Feb 20 2013, 02:58 AM SuperSaiyan2 Feb 19 2013, 10:29 PM I'd say about 1x SSjin = LSSjin for Broly?
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SSJ	Feb 20 2013, 03:02 AM Post #40
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Kamikaze Pyro Feb 20 2013, 03:01 AM SuperSaiyan2 Feb 20 2013, 02:58 AM SuperSaiyan2 Feb 19 2013, 10:29 PM I'd say about 1x SSjin = LSSjin for Broly? LSSJ = Base



+ miguelnuva	Feb 20 2013, 03:08 AM Post #41
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:57 AM 1. Goku died from Cell. 2. You don't win a fight from killing people. 3. Yes. Goku winning against Broly. It never happened. 1. What does Goku losing to Cell have to do with anything, Gohan was the main character during the cell games, his was the most popular during that time and it was the last logical set for Gohan to replace Goku as hero. 2. Killing is how the Z warriors win most of their fights. The way the Broly movies are set up it is one long continuing fight that Broly losses. Broly tied with Goku when Paragus showed up, then lost to the Z warriors in M8. He beat Goten and Trunks, tied or lost to Gohan then he dies against the family KHH. 3. Goku went to confront Broly so unless Goku got there and Broly didn't engage him Goku had to have won. The fact that Goku even agrees to fight Broly with just SSJ2 means he has a chance of winning as Goku didn't want fight Fat Buu alone with just SSJ2 and was scared of Super Buu.
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~~Kise Ryouta~~	Feb 20 2013, 03:13 AM Post #42
The Unrestricted Debater Posts: 255 Group: Suspended Member #9,007 Joined: February 8, 2013	miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 03:08 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:57 AM 1. Goku died from Cell. 2. You don't win a fight from killing people. 3. Yes. Goku winning against Broly. It never happened. 1. What does Goku losing to Cell have to do with anything, Gohan was the main character during the cell games, his was the most popular during that time and it was the last logical set for Gohan to replace Goku as hero. 2. Killing is how the Z warriors win most of their fights. The way the Broly movies are set up it is one long continuing fight that Broly losses. Broly tied with Goku when Paragus showed up, then lost to the Z warriors in M8. He beat Goten and Trunks, tied or lost to Gohan then he dies against the family KHH. 3. Goku went to confront Broly so unless Goku got there and Broly didn't engage him Goku had to have won. The fact that Goku even agrees to fight Broly with just SSJ2 means he has a chance of winning as Goku didn't want fight Fat Buu alone with just SSJ2 and was scared of Super Buu. 1. Goku died from Cell. That means Broly can kill Goku in the movies. 2. Nope. Explain World Tournaments. fight /fīt/ Verb Take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons. Noun A violent confrontation or struggle. Winning: win /win/ Verb Be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict). NO KILLING INVOLVED. 3. Blah.



+ miguelnuva	Feb 20 2013, 03:26 AM Post #43
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 03:13 AM miguelnuva Feb 20 2013, 03:08 AM Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 02:57 AM 1. Goku died from Cell. 2. You don't win a fight from killing people. 3. Yes. Goku winning against Broly. It never happened. 1. What does Goku losing to Cell have to do with anything, Gohan was the main character during the cell games, his was the most popular during that time and it was the last logical set for Gohan to replace Goku as hero. 2. Killing is how the Z warriors win most of their fights. The way the Broly movies are set up it is one long continuing fight that Broly losses. Broly tied with Goku when Paragus showed up, then lost to the Z warriors in M8. He beat Goten and Trunks, tied or lost to Gohan then he dies against the family KHH. 3. Goku went to confront Broly so unless Goku got there and Broly didn't engage him Goku had to have won. The fact that Goku even agrees to fight Broly with just SSJ2 means he has a chance of winning as Goku didn't want fight Fat Buu alone with just SSJ2 and was scared of Super Buu. 1. Goku died from Cell. That means Broly can kill Goku in the movies. 2. Nope. Explain World Tournaments. fight /fīt/ Verb Take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons. Noun A violent confrontation or struggle. Winning: win /win/ Verb Be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict). NO KILLING INVOLVED. 3. Blah. 1. That was the worst reasoning I ever heard. Goku in the CG didn't have SSJ2. SSJ2 Goku would beat SSJ2 Kid Gohan who beat Cell. 2. Killing is on way the Z fighters win their fights, I mentioned several other ways all of which Broly never did. 3. The fact you didn't responds means you don't have anything to say.
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~~Kise Ryouta~~	Feb 20 2013, 03:27 AM Post #44
The Unrestricted Debater Posts: 255 Group: Suspended Member #9,007 Joined: February 8, 2013	1. No. Goku outright said MSSj Gohan > MSSj Goku. 2. No. 3. I don't need anything to say because I simply don't need to.



+ miguelnuva	Feb 20 2013, 03:32 AM Post #45
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	Kise Ryouta Feb 20 2013, 03:27 AM 1. No. Goku outright said MSSj Gohan > MSSj Goku. 2. No. 3. I don't need anything to say because I simply don't need to. 1. Goku is buu saga in M11 he lost to Cell in the cell games you can't say because Cell did something Broly could do it as well since were dealing with a stronger Goku. 2. Killing is not one way they win their fights?
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