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Sasuke Uchiha vs Future Trunks vs Yoh Asakura (Sword battle only)
Topic Started: Feb 19 2013, 01:59 PM (4,956 Views)
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Okay, changing the rules.

Trunks can still fly, however, speed is halved, and his durability is regular and not linked to his physical strength.
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Feb 19 2013, 06:14 PM
Yea, feel dumb for not noticing the full speed thing..

Still say in swordsmanship though Sasuke would win with equal everything.
I didn't notice it either until Copy posted, then I re-read it ^.^

I only read Shaman Kings earlier chapters but there's nothing I've read on my quick google now that has made me think Yoh could really do damage to Trunks or Sasuke.
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Not sure if halving Trunks' speed will do much, though I don't feel like calculating that *****, so I'll just say he definitely loses especially considering that he even stops using his sword at one point, so it wasn't exactly his strong suit.

Yoh was able to stop a sword of Platinum enhanced with Furyoku (spirit energy, essentially) and since this occurred very late in the series, the amount of Furyoku must've been a lot (same applies to the amount Yoh puts into his own blade), though I dunno if this means anything against how his blade would fare against Sasuke's Chidori-enhanced blade.

If Yoh uses both the Harusame and Futsublanaksnhskdjskn, his blade gets pretty big and I think he can extend further by pumping for Furyoku into it and he uses a long range move with it too (which I don't think requires blade contact). There's also this White Swan form or whatever of it in which he was able to fairly easily deflect at least 5(?) large knives while doing some kind of training in hell/the underworld, and it also utilizes two blades, one short, one large (kinda like Kyoraku from Bleach, although he has 2 shields as well).

I'd say Sasuke's main trump card here's gonna be the Sharingan, and I don't know if Yoh's awareness and reflexes can match that considering that he's relying on a human samurai spirit for that (well, the Futsudjfjkekwsnddjs also helps in that department, though I don't know what difference it makes in this case). Sasuke's probably the faster of the 2 as well.

I dunno, I'll just go with what Steve said and say Yoh takes this, since his abilities are a lot more geared to swordsmanship than Sasuke's, and he's got nearly all of them.
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Well the rules said can only hit hard enough to send Sasuke flying, no SSJ, flight and basic melee.

Not sure about Yoh but I'm sure with the Sharingan Sasuke could handle Trunks' speed somewhat, especially since he fought Ay.
If he seen him disappear he'd know roughly what direction, Trunks doesn't have his strength so block and Chidori.

Frieza was never stated to be at all durable, certainly not made of that metal that snaps the Z sword anyway.
I would say Base Future Trunks when he actually used his sword wouldn't ne that hard for Sasuke to diapatch, channeling Chidori through his blade would surely pierce Trunks in base he has no durability fests for piercing attacks at at all.
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without his physical durability, trunks is toast if he gets hit. at half speed, though, he's still over 1/2 the speed of sound, at least. and that's just when he's moving. his actual fight speed is going to be ridiculous. do either of the other characters have any speed feats that suggest they could hit a supersonic or near supersonic opponent? or that they could block/dodge a supersonic or hypersonic attack?
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Who is Yoh? In a Sasuke v Trunks fight, I'd go with Trunks unless he doesn't have ki to help against attacks. It's still a close on either way due to Trunks incredible speed.
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Feb 22 2013, 01:52 AM
without his physical durability, trunks is toast if he gets hit. at half speed, though, he's still over 1/2 the speed of sound, at least. and that's just when he's moving. his actual fight speed is going to be ridiculous. do either of the other characters have any speed feats that suggest they could hit a supersonic or near supersonic opponent? or that they could block/dodge a supersonic or hypersonic attack?
Yes. Sasuke is > sound in reflexes. Well technically his brother was but he beat him so he at least rivals it.


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Itachi set up their entire fight to have Sasuke win, that does not count as a feat, and Naruto dodged Ay's fastest punch without a sharingan, so theres that.

Sasuke, look Yoh up, I did suggest that if You didn't know :p
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So everything is equalized? I say it's a battle between Asakura and Trunks. I don't know who's gonna win, but it would be definitely a good battle. Sasuke will be taken out by Asakura. Both Asakura and Trunks were using swords at an early age, and Sasuke used it at a good age, but Trunks and Asakura got more experience with swords.


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Future Trunks barely ever used his sword and he have no way of knowing what age he aquired it at, as for Yoh, he likely stands the best chance however, Sasuke has the sharingan, and can fill his sword with chidori, that puts them all on equal ground.

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Yoh/Sasuke>Trunks.
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Feb 22 2013, 12:57 PM
Future Trunks barely ever used his sword and he have no way of knowing what age he aquired it at, as for Yoh, he likely stands the best chance however, Sasuke has the sharingan, and can fill his sword with chidori, that puts them all on equal ground.

Basically:

Yoh/Sasuke>Trunks.
Is everything equalized? If not, then what's not?
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It is all balanced, the conditions are in the initial post.

Sasuke has his sharingan and can channel chidori into his sword.

Trunks cannot go Super Saiyan, and his durability is reduced to that of a normal human, and his physical strength and speed are halved.

Yoh has access to 100% of his ability.
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Feb 22 2013, 02:23 PM
It is all balanced, the conditions are in the initial post.

Sasuke has his sharingan and can channel chidori into his sword.

Trunks cannot go Super Saiyan, and his durability is reduced to that of a normal human, and his physical strength and speed are halved.

Yoh has access to 100% of his ability.
Okay.

Trunks would get *****ed up if he was hit, but that won't ever happen. He's massively hypersonic+, and he's strong enough to destroy a country physically. I assume he can't use ki, but he wouldn't need that. It doesn't even matter if both of them at their most powerful jumped at him while he only got speed, and everything down to human level. He'd just kick them at massively hypersonic+ speeds, and they'd get *****ed up.

Trunks is the winner. Just equalize everything but skills and experience, and we'd get a good battle.
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From what we know Sasuke has more sword experience than Trunks..

Also, OP says Trunks can't over-power with his strength. Hypersonic is NOTHING to current main-tier Naruto characters either. I will get the scan if it pleases you..

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Itachi reacted to this speed and Sasuke rivals his speed if not surpasses it.

(note: Viz translation just says technique is much faster than sound)
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Feb 22 2013, 03:19 PM
From what we know Sasuke has more sword experience than Trunks..

Also, OP says Trunks can't over-power with his strength. Hypersonic is NOTHING to current main-tier Naruto characters either. I will get the scan if it pleases you..

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Itachi reacted to this speed and Sasuke rivals his speed if not surpasses it.

(note: Viz translation just says technique is much faster than sound)
Did I say only Hypersonic? I said MASSIVELY HYPERSONIC+. HST Top Tiers are in the double digits (well, below MHS, but HS+).

He said halved his physical strength, and his durability is human level. Trunks easily beats both of them in the same time.
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