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Chi Chi vs Goku 22nd Budokai
Topic Started: Feb 18 2013, 05:07 PM (5,238 Views)
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Emmeth
Feb 19 2013, 10:53 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 19 2013, 10:52 PM
Factually, Chi Chi gave Goku trouble dodging, whilst Chapa-o did not, so why not go by that?
I never said Chappa was superior to Chi-Chi, did I?
And Chapa-o is superior to 22nd Goku.

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Chapa: “You’ve run out of luck. This will be as far as you go this time; things won’t go at all like they did previously.”
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Feb 19 2013, 10:51 PM
King Chapa 23nd Budokai > Goku 22nd Budokai , right? Is he that superior ?
From his confidence, he's at least superior to the Goku who beat him, although saying he's superior to Goku's full Tournament level or his Battle level is highly questionable.
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Feb 19 2013, 10:32 PM
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Feb 19 2013, 10:29 PM
Well Yaijorbe is stronger than 22nd Goku and he didn't make into the final 8 while Chi-Chi did. I think that kind of implies that Chi-Chi was stronger than him. If you dont like that reason than there's also Chi-Chi being able to follow Goku's movements when King Chappa couldn't even see Goku. So the gap between them is big I think big enough where she can beat 22nd Goku.
Chi-Chi couldn't follow Goku's movements. At least not during the fight with Tien.


Yeah as Cadaver said Goku was holding back aganist Chappa and Chi-Chi.

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Feb 19 2013, 10:51 PM
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Feb 19 2013, 10:50 PM
Hell, simply a comparison between what Chapa-o and Chi Chi both did in their fights with Goku should be enough to put Chi Chi way above Chapa-o, the latter more than likely being superior to 22nd Goku by a fair margin at least.

King Chapa 23nd Budokai > Goku 22nd Budokai , right? Is he that superior ?


Match Level Goku yes but Chappa never saw a Serious 22nd Goku so I doubt he surpassed 22nd Goku.
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Feb 19 2013, 10:53 PM
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Feb 19 2013, 10:53 PM
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Factually, Chi Chi gave Goku trouble dodging, whilst Chapa-o did not, so why not go by that?
I never said Chappa was superior to Chi-Chi, did I?
And Chapa-o is superior to 22nd Goku.

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Chapa: “You’ve run out of luck. This will be as far as you go this time; things won’t go at all like they did previously.”
Okay, cool.

I get your point now. Forgot about Chappa's quote.
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Well, I kind of retract that, because we don't know for sure if he saw Goku's full power. >_<
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Feb 19 2013, 10:58 PM
Well, I kind of retract that, because we don't know for sure if he saw Goku's full power. >_<
Most likely didn't actually. Captain makes an interesting point.

Was unsure myself.
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Feb 19 2013, 10:53 PM
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Feb 19 2013, 10:53 PM
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Feb 19 2013, 10:52 PM
Factually, Chi Chi gave Goku trouble dodging, whilst Chapa-o did not, so why not go by that?
I never said Chappa was superior to Chi-Chi, did I?
And Chapa-o is superior to 22nd Goku.

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Chapa: “You’ve run out of luck. This will be as far as you go this time; things won’t go at all like they did previously.”
So Chapa-o can beat Tambourine? Doubt it. I'd see him making around 21st Goku's level by the 23rd BT IMO.
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Feb 19 2013, 10:53 PM
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Factually, Chi Chi gave Goku trouble dodging, whilst Chapa-o did not, so why not go by that?
I never said Chappa was superior to Chi-Chi, did I?
And Chapa-o is superior to 22nd Goku.

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Chapa: “You’ve run out of luck. This will be as far as you go this time; things won’t go at all like they did previously.”
So Chapa-o can beat Tambourine? Doubt it. I'd see him making around 21st Goku's level by the 23rd BT IMO.
He was already stronger than Goku after Korin's training in the 22nd Budokai since everyone was worried Goku might actually lose to him.
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Yeah, and if he was as low as 21st Budokai tier, there would've been a mention of him being weaker than expected.
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Either way, I don't care. He's 21st BT tier IMO.
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Feb 20 2013, 06:39 PM
I don't care about power statements in Dragon Ball (part one, obviously). They're inconsistent most of the time.
Then what kind of evidence do you have that Chappa is that low?
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There isn't ^

We just know that King Chappa was confident to be atleast higher than the Goku he fought.

No one ever came back to Goku for a revenche as him. So he has to be > Goku 22nd Budokai mini
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I don't even understand how this particular power statement is inconsistent. Inconsistencies do exist, but there aren't any that I can see in this case.
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Feb 20 2013, 11:57 PM
I don't even understand how this particular power statement is inconsistent. Inconsistencies do exist, but there aren't any that I can see in this case.
Maybe it's just how the BOZ numbers are so low, that if you have rather minor characters like Chi-Chi being >>> 22nd TB Goku, it could get really cramped really quickly.

That happens even without the minor characters, but ah well.
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The BoZ figures don't work without the minor characters anyways, yeah. If you've ever attempted a list for DB (I have once, though it wasn't so great as my DB stuff is still somewhat lacking), you'll notice that figures especially around the Piccolo arcs shoot up kinda like they do in the Cell arc.

Inconsistencies could also mean something like Goku and Roshi being so closely matched at the 21st that Roshi even began to doubt himself, yet after Karin's training, Karin wonders whether or not Goku's surpassed Roshi.

So you'd end up with Goku >= Roshi >> Tao Pai Pai >>> Roshi, essentially, which is obviously not consistent. Which forces you to throw some stuff out, but there's nothing like that here.
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