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Do 23rd Krillin and Yamcha surpass Piccolo Daimao?
Topic Started: Feb 15 2013, 11:27 PM (3,692 Views)
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Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:47 PM
You think THAT is one-shotting? Flick of a finger while Goku was angered and un-guarded. Okay.

So if Goku can't hit Mr.Popo once , you think he would hit Kami?

Chapter: 164, P7.1-3
Goku: “Amazin’…Mister Popo, you really are incredible! That’s why I couldn’t beat you!”
Popo: “Heh, well…Mister Popo has learned a whole, whole lot from God. That’s why I’m great.”
Goku: “So this ‘God’ guy is even more amazin’!?”
Popo: “Of course. God is far, far more incredible.”

Kami >> Mr.Popo - Stated
Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:47 PM
Anyway, Goku and Tien was even at the 22nd with 180. Krillin is 206 at BoZ. It's fair to assume Goku improved quite a deal after drinking the divine water.

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Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:47 PM
I believe King Piccolo > Krillin/Yamcha.

You got nothing to say? Ok.
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I think Popo's admiration and loyalty for Kami is clouding his judgement. Even if AT did write that, I don't think it was meant literal. We got to use our imagination a little.

Also, my two last statements go hand in hand. Goku was more than 206 when fighting King Piccolo. About 260, I'd say.

And I need to mention that Ma Jr was not using his full power against Krillin, he was merely toying, even if he did say taking over the world wouldn't be easy. In fact, I believe he said that in comparison to Goku, since he knows Goku is far FAR superior to Krillin.
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Feb 16 2013, 04:56 PM
I think Popo's admiration and loyalty for Kami is clouding his judgement. Even if AT did write that, I don't think it was meant literal. We got to use our imagination a little.

Also, my two last statements go hand in hand. Goku was more than 206 when fighting King Piccolo. About 260, I'd say.

And I need to mention that Ma Jr was not using his full power against Krillin, he was merely toying, even if he did say taking over the world wouldn't be easy. In fact, I believe he said that in comparison to Goku, since he knows Goku is far FAR superior to Krillin.

Loyalty is never stated , it says he is far more incredible as strenght. Your point still doesn't make sense.

Using Numbers in DB , is wrong. How many times did I debunked this?

Piccolo Jr showed a little bit of his full power as it is stated. But thats still make my point better , since Krillin is called a amazing fighter.
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Your approach is way too literal. I prefer to use my imagination a little bit, as AT would want me to.
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Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 05:05 PM
Your approach is way too literal. I prefer to use my imagination a little bit, as AT would want me to.

Well should I believe you or Manga.

I prefer Manga.
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Feb 16 2013, 05:07 PM
Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 05:05 PM
Your approach is way too literal. I prefer to use my imagination a little bit, as AT would want me to.

Well should I believe you or Manga.

I prefer Manga.
I'm not claiming I'm telling any form of truth. I only state my opinion.
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Feb 16 2013, 05:08 PM
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Feb 16 2013, 05:07 PM
Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 05:05 PM
Your approach is way too literal. I prefer to use my imagination a little bit, as AT would want me to.

Well should I believe you or Manga.

I prefer Manga.
I'm not claiming I'm telling any form of truth. I only state my opinion.

If you state your opinion , why are you trying to debate me?
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Alex KloonBoss
Feb 16 2013, 05:09 PM
If you state your opinion , why are you trying to debate me?
Because it's fun.
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The PL list that Emmeth posted is fan-made. I don't know if this helps, but this power level list was published by Jump magazine:
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I honestly don't agree with some of these, but I'm simply posting this because it's an official scan.
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^It has Raditz at 1,500. Which its hilarious , consider the FACT that he was stated to rival Saibaman.
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Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:56 PM
I think Popo's admiration and loyalty for Kami is clouding his judgement.
Based on?
Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:56 PM
Even if AT did write that, I don't think it was meant literal.
Based on?
Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:56 PM
We got to use our imagination a little.
There's little room for imagination when Popo says God is far more incredible, and then God proceeds to finger-flick Goku.

Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:56 PM
Also, my two last statements go hand in hand. Goku was more than 206 when fighting King Piccolo. About 260, I'd say.
Scouter numbers = BS in DB. If Goku was 260, King Piccolo'd be about 260. Then he'd have to have far lower when old, let's say, 200. Then at less than half power, he tanks Goku's Kame wave. Let's say he's at 90 while at less than half. Goku couldn't be much higher than 50 before the Super God Water. But this is Goku after the 22nd Budokai, and he's only 50...

Scouter numbers don't help your case, sorry, and since nothing backs up your claim of 260 so your point right there is null and void.

Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 04:56 PM
And I need to mention that Ma Jr was not using his full power against Krillin, he was merely toying, even if he did say taking over the world wouldn't be easy. In fact, I believe he said that in comparison to Goku, since he knows Goku is far FAR superior to Krillin.
MaJunior not using his full power isn't relevant, it's that little bit of credit he gives to Krillin that matters. Popo calls Goku a weakling, meaning King Piccolo would be a weakling to him too. Yamcha and Krillin garner more than this from people far superior to Popo.

Emmeth
Feb 16 2013, 05:05 PM
Your approach is way too literal. I prefer to use my imagination a little bit, as AT would want me to.
You know this how? How do you know he means for us to ignore a rather direct strength statement?

KetchupRevenge
Feb 16 2013, 05:53 PM
The PL list that Emmeth posted is fan-made. I don't know if this helps, but this power level list was published by Jump magazine:
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I honestly don't agree with some of these, but I'm simply posting this because it's an official scan.
As I said before, good luck reasoning with numbers in DB.
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The scouter numbers show Piccolo Daimao being far stronger than even BOZ Krillin.
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Alex KloonBoss
Feb 16 2013, 06:24 PM
^It has Raditz at 1,500. Which its hilarious , consider the FACT that he was stated to rival Saibaman.
But how strong were Saibamen? :errm:
We can't compare him to the Saibamen (number-wise) if we don't even know what their average level is. All we can do is take Nappa's word for it.
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Feb 16 2013, 08:27 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Feb 16 2013, 06:24 PM
^It has Raditz at 1,500. Which its hilarious , consider the FACT that he was stated to rival Saibaman.
But how strong were Saibamen? :errm:
We can't compare him to the Saibamen (number-wise) if we don't even know what their average level is. All we can do is take Nappa's word.

Saibaman 1,200.

Raditz - stated by AT to rival him.
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