Tien strength analysis

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Tien strength analysis; Buu Saga
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Zenet	Feb 15 2013, 02:45 PM Post #1
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P7.1 Context: talking to Goku after knocking out Tenshinhan Boo: “…That guy just now was apparently quite a master, but he was reduced to that state in just 1 one kick…You’re making some worthless boasts…Frankly, no matter what you try, you absolutely won’t be able to even inflict damage on me.” Look at the surrounding quotes regarding the Kikoho , you'll see them. Tenshinhan's Boo arc Kikoho is heavily implied to be > SSJ3 Goku. Considering the insane gains suggested by that. It would be impossible for Tien to fill his role, unless that Kikoho is stupidly powerful even by Buu Saga standards. Though also Shin Kikoho was never said to be different than his regular Kikoho so the multiplier should remain the same. The difference we can see is a multiple version and the other is a single attack. I think we have enough proof that tenshinhan is the strongest human and at least on par with Base Goku. Depending on how strong you think the kikoho was. Edited by Zenet, Feb 15 2013, 03:22 PM.



* Stark	Feb 15 2013, 03:13 PM Post #2
Rock Lobster Posts: 3,424 Group: Retired Staff Member #7,041 Joined: December 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Game Of Thrones What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga A Song Of Ice And Fire	zenet Feb 15 2013, 02:45 PM Shin Kikoho was never said to be different than his regular Kikoho so the multiplier would remain the same. The difference we can see is one is a multiple version and the other is a single attack. If it isn't stronger then why making it then? That's quite the point of the Shin Kikoho. An improved version of the Kikoho.



* Ketchup Revenge	Feb 15 2013, 03:17 PM Post #3
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	zenet Feb 15 2013, 02:45 PM Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P7.1 Context: talking to Goku after knocking out Tenshinhan Boo: “…That guy just now was apparently quite a master, but he was reduced to that state in just 1 one kick…You’re making some worthless boasts…Frankly, no matter what you try, you absolutely won’t be able to even inflict damage on me.” Look at the surrounding quotes regarding the Kikoho , you'll see them. Tenshinhan's Boo arc Kikoho is heavily implied to be > SSJ3 Goku. Considering the insane gains suggested by that. It would be impossible for Tien to fill his role, unless that Kikoho is stupidly powerful even by Buu Saga standards. Though also Shin Kikoho was never said to be different than his regular Kikoho so the multiplier should remain the same. The difference we can see is a multiple version and the other is a single attack. I think we have enough proof that tenshinhan is the strongest human and at least on par with Base Goku. Depending on how strong you think the kikoho was. The Kikoho is not technically a reflection of Tenshinhan's "power level", even if does influence his ki. The Kikoho has always packed a much bigger punch than Tenshinhan's power over-all. Also the core energy of the Kikoho is derived from something other than ki, even though it eats ki up when Tenshinhan uses it. The energy that the Kikoho is derived from is a more permanent force, and actually shortens Tenshinhan's natural life every time he uses it. Due to this, we actually don't know the parameters of the Kikoho because there's not another technique like it in the series. Puccio If it isn't stronger then why making it then? That's quite the point of the Shin Kikoho. An improved version of the Kikoho. The improved part of it is that he can fire it off in succession multiple times, the regular kikoho can only be done once. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Feb 15 2013, 03:19 PM.
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Zenet	Feb 15 2013, 03:19 PM Post #4
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Puccio Feb 15 2013, 03:13 PM zenet Feb 15 2013, 02:45 PM Shin Kikoho was never said to be different than his regular Kikoho so the multiplier would remain the same. The difference we can see is one is a multiple version and the other is a single attack. If it isn't stronger then why making it then? That's quite the point of the Shin Kikoho. An improved version of the Kikoho. The difference we see with shin is its a multiple version. Edited by Zenet, Feb 15 2013, 03:24 PM.



+ Emmeth	Feb 15 2013, 04:33 PM Post #5
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Zenet	Feb 15 2013, 05:16 PM Post #6
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Emmeth Feb 15 2013, 04:33 PM Why even question it? If AT says Krillin is the strongest human, then he is the strongest human. Because the manga shows that's wrong. Edited by Zenet, Feb 15 2013, 05:19 PM.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Feb 15 2013, 05:18 PM Post #7
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+ Emmeth	Feb 15 2013, 05:20 PM Post #8
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	zenet Feb 15 2013, 05:16 PM Because the manga shows that's wrong. Since when did the creation AT made trump what AT himself said?
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~~Frankie~~	Feb 15 2013, 05:23 PM Post #9
Posts: 573 Group: GTFO Member #593 Joined: August 8, 2005	Whats with you and your Tien Troll topics?



* Yu Narukami	Feb 15 2013, 05:25 PM Post #10
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Tenshinhan's Boo arc Kikoho is heavily implied to be > SSJ3 Goku. Cell Arc Shin Kikoho was <<</<<<< MSSJ Goku. Unless Tenshinhan made impossible gains, it's impossible. Using that logic, Base Goku is > SSJ3 Goku because he actually hit Bootenks.



Zenet	Feb 15 2013, 05:26 PM Post #11
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	Emmeth Feb 15 2013, 05:20 PM zenet Feb 15 2013, 05:16 PM Because the manga shows that's wrong. Since when did the creation AT made trump what AT himself said? Tien was never seen after Cell Games 7 years So its based Cell Games strength.



+ Emmeth	Feb 15 2013, 05:27 PM Post #12
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	zenet Feb 15 2013, 05:26 PM Tien was never seen after Cell Games 7 years So its based Cell Games strength. Thought the interview was after he was done with the manga.
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~~Frankie~~	Feb 15 2013, 05:29 PM Post #13
Posts: 573 Group: GTFO Member #593 Joined: August 8, 2005	You must have a hard on for Tien. Tien is a good human, yes one of the strongest, if not the strongest. But it's like this son, Boo arc Tien <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<ALL THE SAIYAJINNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS



~~GridZero~~	Feb 15 2013, 05:29 PM Post #14
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	zenet Feb 15 2013, 05:26 PM Emmeth Feb 15 2013, 05:20 PM zenet Feb 15 2013, 05:16 PM Because the manga shows that's wrong. Since when did the creation AT made trump what AT himself said? Tien was never seen after Cell Games 7 years So its based Cell Games strength. So, in an interview 9 YEARS after Z ended, Toriyama is still thinking about Tenshinhan's strength in the Cell Arc, but not the Boo Arc where he also drew him? Please. Your logic here has been debunked a large number of times here. Why can't you just understand it?



*Copy_Ninja*	Feb 15 2013, 05:30 PM Post #15
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