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Pikkon VS Buu Saga Base Goku
Topic Started: Feb 13 2013, 03:49 PM (839 Views)
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Pikkon would beat him in base.
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Pikkon would also beat Goku even if he did use Kaioken.
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Pikkon stomps Goku this one.
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Pikkon was slightly above SSj Goku from 7 years ago. I don't have Goku getting over 10 times stronger (my ssj multiplier), so Pikkon wins.
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I have Buu Goku winning. If you think Krillin can rival the base Saiyans, which he was said to be able to and shown to be able to in filler, he can beat Pikkon. Krillin was superior to a Pikkon who had the 7 extra years. No one gains dower like the z fighters did, even the z fighting humans, as it took centuries for Pikkon and Olibu to get that power
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Feb 14 2013, 08:50 AM
I have Buu Goku winning. If you think Krillin can rival the base Saiyans, which he was said to be able to and shown to be able to in filler, he can beat Pikkon. Krillin was superior to a Pikkon who had the 7 extra years. No one gains dower like the z fighters did, even the z fighting humans, as it took centuries for Pikkon and Olibu to get that power
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Pikkon is a filler character. His strength is relevant to the anime portrayal of him. The anime clearly shows he's Krillins ***** along with the rest of other world, its why Krillin gts hot shotted thru check in to grand Kai's world and gets special training as he's plan b to save the universe ; Also who west kai nearly pees himself andnthanks heaven they arent wiped out of existence from Pikon talking ***** to buu (but he wasnt stupid enough to fight him, they all watched krillin (Yamcha eventually helped). He ain't touching Buu saga Goku as he hasn't made that big of gains in other world even in the 7 years, neither have Olibu, they unlike the Z team all took centuries to get as strong as they are.

The only Pikkon that can trouble that Goku is from the Janemba movie, who is at a different level of power than his anime self

Goku will stomp him, Vegeta will stomp him, piccolo will stomp, Gohan should but its a work in progress, and its pretty much said Krillin can and wold stomp him and the rest of other world
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Feb 14 2013, 11:05 AM
Pikkon is a filler character. His strength is relevant to the anime portrayal of him. The anime clearly shows he's Krillins ***** along with the rest of other world, its why Krillin gts hot shotted thru check in to grand Kai's world and gets special training as he's plan b to save the universe ; Also who west kai nearly pees himself andnthanks heaven they arent wiped out of existence from Pikon talking ***** to buu (but he wasnt stupid enough to fight him, they all watched krillin (Yamcha eventually helped). He ain't touching Buu saga Goku as he hasn't made that big of gains in other world even in the 7 years, neither have Olibu, they unlike the Z team all took centuries to get as strong as they are.

The only Pikkon that can trouble that Goku is from the Janemba movie, who is at a different level of power than his anime self

Goku will stomp him, Vegeta will stomp him, piccolo will stomp, Gohan should but its a work in progress, and its pretty much said Krillin can and wold stomp him and the rest of other world
so u are using fillers to know krillin's strength in buu saga ?

sorry .... not going with me

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I'm saying that Pikon is an anime based character. His strength in the cell saga is greater than everyone we see but Gohan in both manga and anime adaptations. He's brought into Buu saga anime once again and we are basically told he hasn't improved, not have Olibu in the 7 years while Goku has made massive gains.

Now we dont know where manga krillin stands. It's said he stopped fighting after he got his dream of a family. That means he trained for 3-4 years in the 7 year gap.now we aren't shown his power in the manga, but we do know he doesn't fear Friezas power nor does he shake or sweat, and express fear like he did heading off to the androids where he says he wish he was a ssj too. He only scares off when he sees Dabura who is ssj2, Cell tier.

The anime world, the world Pikon comes from expounds on the power Pikkon has. I flat out shows that Pikkon is inferior to Krillin even after 7 years of improvement, and that Olibu is inferior to the likes of Yamcha. Now it may be crazy to think those two in Olibu and Pikkon who were A and B of otherworld before Goku came hadn't improved, but is really not. They have been dead for centuries to get their powers, while the z fighters, humans, Namek, cyborg, Saiyan alike all have gotten their comparable strength in a very short time. They are all marvels.

If Pikkon with 7 years if improvement can't touch Krillin, in the world he comes from, anime. I doubt he can touch Goku. We are talking the same Goku who he literally couldn't budge in base 7 years prior when Goku dug his heels in after all, and who is superior to his son.

And yes anime should count for this because there is no Pikon in canon. Hes a total fiiller creation. There is no manga backing of his power. There are just the so Pikkons we are shown, the one in the anime at both Cell and Buu saga. The other being the one from a different universe in the movie about Janemba who is much stronger than his anime counterpart
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"Pikkon with 7 years if improvement can't touch Krillin"

where did this happen ?
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Krillin was plan B to save the universe in the Toei filler of other world during Buu saga, its why he and Yamcha (his sparring partner) are brought to other world for special training. Yamcha is shown batting around Olibu and I forget the other guys name. Krillin finds his display of power amusing to him because Yamchas basically showing off on the guys weaker than them. Krillin is also mistaken for Goku and Vegeta by Buu when searching for the greatest kis. And West Kai freaks when he realizes who Pikkon was trash talking, and there's the part where Krillin gets singled out by Buu in Other world. King Kai also basically tells West Kai and Pikkon, Goku has improved greatly since their little match years ago, which is a shot as that is how he and west Kai's relationship was always shown, one bragging about their fighters superiority.

Back to the point, Toei filler basically made Krillin truly the strongest human ever (until Uub). And it wasn't jut on the Kai world its in the whol bUu saga from sparring even with Goten and not being backed up like Gohan as shown to be or being the one to try and fight Buu while the others ran.

I'm just saying its hard to not count filler, when Pikkons whole existence is filler by definition. It's like saying Lime vs Bulma. At the end of the day Lime is just a filler character we are shown, much like Pikkon. Pikkons strength is based off filler and it says his weighted self couldn't budge base Goku when he dug his heels in when they met, and that after 7 years of more training (and they were training because Gand Kai promised them he would train them eventually) was an after thought to Krillin by the Kai's and Buu himself
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Feb 14 2013, 11:29 AM
Krillin was plan B to save the universe in the Toei filler of other world during Buu saga, its why he and Yamcha (his sparring partner) are brought to other world for special training. Yamcha is shown batting around Olibu and I forget the other guys name. Krillin finds his display of power amusing to him because Yamchas basically showing off on the guys weaker than them. Krillin is also mistaken for Goku and Vegeta by Buu when searching for the greatest kis. And West Kai freaks when he realizes who Pikkon was trash talking, and there's the part where Krillin gets singled out by Buu in Other world. King Kai also basically tells West Kai and Pikkon, Goku has improved greatly since their little match years ago, which is a shot as that is how he and west Kai's relationship was always shown, one bragging about their fighters superiority.

Back to the point, Toei filler basically made Krillin truly the strongest human ever (until Uub). And it wasn't jut on the Kai world its in the whol bUu saga from sparring even with Goten and not being backed up like Gohan as shown to be or being the one to try and fight Buu while the others ran.

I'm just saying its hard to not count filler, when Pikkons whole existence is filler by definition. It's like saying Lime vs Bulma. At the end of the day Lime is just a filler character we are shown, much like Pikkon. Pikkons strength is based off filler and it says his weighted self couldn't budge base Goku when he dug his heels in when they met, and that after 7 years of more training (and they were training because Gand Kai promised them he would train them eventually) was an after thought to Krillin by the Kai's and Buu himself

Krillin Filler > Pikkon > Buu saga Goku Manga

Why not ?
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