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My Tien power levels and placements.
Topic Started: Feb 10 2013, 11:10 AM (5,482 Views)
Zenet
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Intimidating Goku with a quote as Tien as an example is not plot device why is it plot device? The Tri Beam is taking into account
as it was stronger than anything Goku was cable of doing. The quote could show a comparison with Tien with his attack to Goku with his transformations.
Edited by Zenet, Feb 14 2013, 12:13 PM.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:17 AM
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Feb 13 2013, 05:41 PM
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Feb 13 2013, 02:47 PM
Alex KloonBoss
Feb 13 2013, 12:49 PM
What's so hard to believe that a human can surpass a million ?
This conversation is beginning to circle, meeting adjourned. I've already explained it several times, now your just trollin'. You're deliberately ignoring evidence (Daizenshuu levels in the Ginyu Arc) just to shift the conversation in favor of your point.

Dazenshuu sucks. Its BS. Its all made up , Evidence shows Krillin being relevant to Frieza 1st form along with Gohan and Krillin.

Believe what you want to , son. Calling me troll doesn't bring you anywhere , specially when you're a newb here.
I'm not a son.

And it's "especially" and "noob".

If you want to ignore an official guide book, then arguing with you is completely pointless, and any point that you make has no basis in true argument other than you want it to be that. You might as well say that Tenshinhan was the strongest person at the end of Z, wouldn't make it true, but from the logic that you've chosen to use to found your arguments, maybe we're all wrong. Maybe Tenshinhan is as strong as SSj4 Gogeta. We don't know because we will choose to ignore official data and just willy nilly make people as strong as we want them to be, just because we can.

And my original point was that it's very unlikely that a human would ever reach 1,000,000. If 99% of Saiyans could never do it even though they have a genetic predisposition to be stronger than humans, it's even more rare for a human to ever be able to get that high. I'm not saying it's impossible, just almost. And if Krillin isn't seen to be anywhere near that level in his prime, then who's to say Tenshinhan ever got that high? Even if it were likely to reach 1,000,000, I highly doubt that three years training on Earth with Roshi would do the trick. They'd need continued special training in special locations in order to make a real difference.

If you don't want to argue with me because I don't agree with the Daizenshuu , then its fine. No offense to that.

I like how you mumbling about Tien when I said this:

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Evidence shows Krillin being relevant to Frieza 1st form along with Gohan and Krillin.


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zenet
Feb 14 2013, 12:12 PM
Intimidating Goku with a quote as Tien as an example is not plot device why is it plot device? The Tri Beam is taking into account
as it was stronger than anything Goku was cable of doing. The quote could show a comparison with Tien with his attack to Goku with his transformations.
exactly, his attack to Goku, not his own power.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:13 PM
zenet
Feb 14 2013, 12:12 PM
Intimidating Goku with a quote as Tien as an example is not plot device why is it plot device? The Tri Beam is taking into account
as it was stronger than anything Goku was cable of doing. The quote could show a comparison with Tien with his attack to Goku with his transformations.
exactly, his attack to Goku, not his own power.
The quote shows Buutenks compliments Tien Overall power and him reflecting his attack by using him as an example to Goku.

Tien Tri Beam > > >SSJ3 Goku As Buutenks claims SSJ3 cant do jack. Tien is below Base Kids canot perform an attack for greater than SSJ3 Goku. Don’t say its Just Haxed like that because that is a baseless consideration.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:13 PM
zenet
Feb 14 2013, 12:12 PM
Intimidating Goku with a quote as Tien as an example is not plot device why is it plot device? The Tri Beam is taking into account
as it was stronger than anything Goku was cable of doing. The quote could show a comparison with Tien with his attack to Goku with his transformations.
exactly, his attack to Goku, not his own power.

Zenet's logic:

Tien Buu arc > Android 16

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zenet man zenet sit down on my lap and let me tell you a beautiful soul food recipe

it works like this.

first you take a teaspoon of logic, then you take a tablespoon of common sense, a dash of comprehension skills, and some pepper.

mix it all togetha and you get what is called the right answer cake.

when you eat it youll understand why what youre saying is just foolish. boo aint taking gokus base power into consideration because thats just idiotic of him when he has so much more knowledge than that. right
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Feb 14 2013, 07:31 PM
zenet man zenet sit down on my lap and let me tell you a beautiful soul food recipe

it works like this.

first you take a teaspoon of logic, then you take a tablespoon of common sense, a dash of comprehension skills, and some pepper.

mix it all togetha and you get what is called the right answer cake.

when you eat it youll understand why what youre saying is just foolish. boo aint taking gokus base power into consideration because thats just idiotic of him when he has so much more knowledge than that. right
This is really condescending and disrespectful. Who are you to say if you're completely right? Purely because of the effort you went into to being condescending you're getting a 10% warn increase.
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Feb 14 2013, 07:31 PM
zenet man zenet sit down on my lap and let me tell you a beautiful soul food recipe

it works like this.

first you take a teaspoon of logic, then you take a tablespoon of common sense, a dash of comprehension skills, and some pepper.

mix it all togetha and you get what is called the right answer cake.

when you eat it youll understand why what youre saying is just foolish. boo aint taking gokus base power into consideration because thats just idiotic of him when he has so much more knowledge than that. right
I've asked zenet how he feels about this and he says he's sorry he has an opinion and that he'll behave nicely from now on. >_>

Not really

Also, I've seen back in the thread the "lol Freeza stomps the humans in the ground".

There is no serious proof that any human surpassed him, but there's also no proof of the opposite. We know that they've trained very hard for the androids and for Cell, and even if they knew that the Androids were going to be stronger than Freeza they showed up against #19 and #20 thinking that they would have been somehow relevant in the fight. Just my two cents on this.
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Feb 14 2013, 04:59 PM
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Feb 14 2013, 03:13 PM
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Feb 14 2013, 12:12 PM
Intimidating Goku with a quote as Tien as an example is not plot device why is it plot device? The Tri Beam is taking into account
as it was stronger than anything Goku was cable of doing. The quote could show a comparison with Tien with his attack to Goku with his transformations.
exactly, his attack to Goku, not his own power.
The quote shows Buutenks compliments Tien Overall power and him reflecting his attack by using him as an example to Goku.

Tien Tri Beam > > >SSJ3 Goku As Buutenks claims SSJ3 cant do jack. Tien is below Base Kids canot perform an attack for greater than SSJ3 Goku. Don’t say its Just Haxed like that because that is a baseless consideration.
Gotenks-Boo compliments Tien and calls Supah Saiyan 3 Goku a fly, not worth taking care of? lol.
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:Tori:

22nd Budokai - 186 - 170
23rd Budokai - 235 - 190
Beginning of Z - 250 220
Saiyans - 1,800 1,500
Mid afterlife training - 37,000 25,000
Post King Kai training - 95,000 145,000
Trunks - 500,000 250,000
Cell - 35,000,000 //Slightly lower than where I have Base Goku (Android Saga). 20,000,000
Buu - 200,000,000 //Somewhat lower than where I have SSJ Goku (Trunks Saga). 90,000,000
EOZ - 800,000,000 //Between Android 17 and Android 16.500,000,000
BoGT - 2,100,000,000 //He should put up a good fight against Semi Cell. ***** gt
Shadow Dragons - 2,600,000,000 //Puts a decent fight against ASSJ Vegeta.
Before dying of old age - 5,000,000,000 //Never makes it to IPC, but beats down the Base Saiyans (Buu Saga).

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Feb 14 2013, 07:31 PM
zenet man zenet sit down on my lap and let me tell you a beautiful soul food recipe

it works like this.

first you take a teaspoon of logic, then you take a tablespoon of common sense, a dash of comprehension skills, and some pepper.

mix it all togetha and you get what is called the right answer cake.

when you eat it youll understand why what youre saying is just foolish. boo aint taking gokus base power into consideration because thats just idiotic of him when he has so much more knowledge than that. right
Your bad grammar is just as insulting than the content of the post. It's a pet peeve of mine, so can you at least try to use proper grammar for the sake of everyone here?

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and even if they knew that the Androids were going to be stronger than Freeza they showed up against #19 and #20 thinking that they would have been somehow relevant in the fight

The thing that people have to remember is that Gero based his own power and and the potential for 19 above Goku's projected potential, but the astronomical level of Super Saiyan wasn't even considered for that data because Gero had no idea that it even existed. So any level above 10,000,000 or so probably was not in his frame of mind when he created 19 and turned himself into a cyborg. With that in mind, I really can't see either of them being above Third Form Freeza (without ki absorbed).
With Vegeta's blast absorbed, I can't see Gero being above 50% Freeza, and I don't really believe that Vegeta's blast was all that strong. Being a Super Saiyan, Vegeta could easily wipe out the Earth in a single blast, but he only wanted to clear an area that was probably a mile or two wide.

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I like how you mumbling about Tien when I said this:

The only one you're impressing here is yourself. I am not convinced, and you've been too busy insulting me to bother using evidence to support your claims. You have provided nothing other than the statement that you don't agree with the Daizenshuu. You haven't provided quotes, detailed scenarios, interviews, or official statements. Until you show something that tells me unequivocally that Tenshinhan is as strong as you've said he is, then your arguments have no basis other than your personal opinion.
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Feb 14 2013, 08:00 PM
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Feb 14 2013, 07:31 PM
zenet man zenet sit down on my lap and let me tell you a beautiful soul food recipe

it works like this.

first you take a teaspoon of logic, then you take a tablespoon of common sense, a dash of comprehension skills, and some pepper.

mix it all togetha and you get what is called the right answer cake.

when you eat it youll understand why what youre saying is just foolish. boo aint taking gokus base power into consideration because thats just idiotic of him when he has so much more knowledge than that. right
This is really condescending and disrespectful. Who are you to say if you're completely right? Purely because of the effort you went into to being condescending you're getting a 10% warn increase.
Eh...

With all due respect, Bex. KP is 100% right here.

What znet is saying is not only a logical fallacy but there's nothing supporting his claim, and things flat out contradicting it, so basically, he's just wrong here.
Edited by GridZero, Feb 15 2013, 03:36 AM.
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Feb 15 2013, 01:36 AM
:Tori:

22nd Budokai - 186 - 170
23rd Budokai - 235 - 190
Beginning of Z - 250 220
Saiyans - 1,800 1,500
Mid afterlife training - 37,000 25,000
Post King Kai training - 95,000 145,000
Trunks - 500,000 250,000
Cell - 35,000,000 //Slightly lower than where I have Base Goku (Android Saga). 20,000,000
Buu - 200,000,000 //Somewhat lower than where I have SSJ Goku (Trunks Saga). 90,000,000
EOZ - 800,000,000 //Between Android 17 and Android 16.500,000,000
BoGT - 2,100,000,000 //He should put up a good fight against Semi Cell. ***** gt
Shadow Dragons - 2,600,000,000 //Puts a decent fight against ASSJ Vegeta.
Before dying of old age - 5,000,000,000 //Never makes it to IPC, but beats down the Base Saiyans (Buu Saga).

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BoZ Tien is in fact 250. That is stated in the manga and anime. Beyond that it's Around 1200 suppressed at Saiyan saga and not stated beyond.
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I'd say he's pretty heavily above 1200.

FP - 1680, by my count.
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