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My Tien power levels and placements.
Topic Started: Feb 10 2013, 11:10 AM (5,483 Views)
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 14 2013, 01:35 AM
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Feb 14 2013, 01:30 AM
Ignored rest of my comment when it disproves what your saying. Buutenks sees the transformations as petty increases that is all.

Its only statement that gave clues about Tien power other than that its fans assumptions.
The rest of your comment doesn't mean crap. Here, I'll respond now if you want.

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He even says it not my words.. Of course Buu couldn't sense SSJ/SSJ2/SSJ3 Goku when he was Fat and he didn't know that Goku witnessed him lay a beating on Gohan. in-other words He sees the transformations as a petty increase
He's making fun of them, which in no way equates to some comparison between Tien and Base Goku.

He knew his own power back when he was Fat Boo and he fought SSJ3 Goku, he knows his power pretty damn well.

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Its only statement that gave clues about Tien power other than that its fans assumptions.
Everything you're spouting here falls under the category of 'fan assumptions', you're making a comparison out of a scene where no comparison is made.
Did Majin Buu see Base Goku Fight? he couldn't sense Base Goku at the time or SSJ3 so how can he tell difference.
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Feb 14 2013, 01:43 AM
Did Majin Buu see Base Goku Fight? to him Base Goku and SSJ3 are barley different.
Bootenks can sense chi, and Base Goku was right in front of him.

Not to mention that right now, your post is implying that Tien's SSJ3 tier, which you don't even believe. Just stop, man.
Edited by Kyouks, Feb 14 2013, 02:52 AM.
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Feb 14 2013, 01:47 AM
zenet
Feb 14 2013, 01:43 AM
Did Majin Buu see Base Goku Fight? to him Base Goku and SSJ3 are barley different.
Bootenks can sense chi, and Base Goku was right in front of him. Fail.

Not to mention that right now, your post is implying that Tien's SSJ3 tier, which you don't even believe. Just stop, man.
SSJ3 Goku appeard after Buutenks quote. Fat Buu never saw Base Goku fight. SSJ3 Goku was a mystery power to Buutenks not like it was threat to him anyways
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How was he a "mystery power?"

He knows SSJ3 Goku could lay a whooping on his fatter self. And his fatter self whooped Vegeta and destroyed Kaioshin and Gohan.

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Feb 14 2013, 01:54 AM
How was he a "mystery power?"

He knows SSJ3 Goku could lay a whooping on his fatter self. And his fatter self whooped Vegeta and destroyed Kaioshin and Gohan.

I said it wrong. what I meant to say was the difference between Base Goku and SSJ3 was a mystery.
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zenet
Feb 14 2013, 01:51 AM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 14 2013, 01:47 AM
zenet
Feb 14 2013, 01:43 AM
Did Majin Buu see Base Goku Fight? to him Base Goku and SSJ3 are barley different.
Bootenks can sense chi, and Base Goku was right in front of him. Fail.

Not to mention that right now, your post is implying that Tien's SSJ3 tier, which you don't even believe. Just stop, man.
SSJ3 Goku appeard after Buutenks quote. Fat Buu never saw Base Goku fight. SSJ3 Goku was a mystery power to Buutenks not like it was threat to him anyways
You realize that Bootenks and Fat Boo share the same memories, right?

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Feb 14 2013, 01:56 AM
BukLau
Feb 14 2013, 01:54 AM
How was he a "mystery power?"

He knows SSJ3 Goku could lay a whooping on his fatter self. And his fatter self whooped Vegeta and destroyed Kaioshin and Gohan.

I said it wrong. what I meant to say was the difference between Base Goku and SSJ3 was a mystery.
No, it isn't. Bootenks sensed Base Goku. Fat Boo fought SSJ3 Goku. Bootenks remembers fighting SSJ3 Goku. He knows the difference. This conservation isn't even relevant unless you're trying to imply that Tien's SSJ3 tier.
Edited by Kyouks, Feb 14 2013, 02:02 AM.
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What does Buutenks trying to intimidate Base Goku got to with SSJ3

Buutenks is suggesting that because he was able to knock out Tenshinhan with a single kick that Base Goku wouldn't be able to do anything. It was Base Goku who was confronting Buutenks not SSJ3. Base Goku made a threat before hand which that had nothing to do with transforming. Buutenks then makes a comparison between Tien and Base Goku and himself.

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zenet
Feb 14 2013, 02:41 AM
What does Buutenks trying to intimidate Base Goku got to with SSJ3
Why would he only try to intimidate Base Goku if he knows Goku can transform?

zenet
Feb 14 2013, 02:41 AM
Buutenks is suggesting that because he was able to knock out Tenshinhan with a single kick that Base Goku wouldn't be able to do anything. It was Base Goku who was confronting Buutenks not SSJ3. Base Goku made a threat before hand which that had nothing to do with transforming. Buutenks then makes a comparison between Tien and Base Goku and himself.
The point is null and void because Bootenks knows that Goku transformed against his fat self (Goku even acknowledges in front of Fat Boo that his SSJ2 form wouldn't be enough), so if Bootenks is making any kind of comparison to intimidate Goku, he must be considering Goku's full power because Goku wouldn't use anything else. Common sense dictates as much.

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Boo: “…That guy just now was apparently quite a master, but he was reduced to that state in just 1 one kick…You’re making some empty boasts…Frankly, no matter what you try, you absolutely won’t be able to even inflict damage on me.”
There is no comparison being made. All Boo is saying is that "I just clowned that guy, now I'm going to clown you," nothing more. The whole point of the quote is "I'm Boo and I'm far stronger than everyone," not "if I can take out that guy, I'll definitely take out your weaker form which can't be too different from your stronger one."
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Base Goku made a boast about an using an item. Buutenks then intimates Base Goku he would knock him out cold if he tries anything at Base presumably By using Tien as an example.
Though There doesn't have to be a real reason on why Buutenks never compared Tien to SSJ3. Other than The manga quotes shows Buuhan sees Base Goku and Tien as the same. Because it was Base Goku on confrontation with Buutenks.

It makes more sense than Buutenks randomly mentioning Tien
Edited by Zenet, Feb 14 2013, 03:26 AM.
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Feb 13 2013, 12:49 PM
What's so hard to believe that a human can surpass a million ?
This conversation is beginning to circle, meeting adjourned. I've already explained it several times, now your just trollin'. You're deliberately ignoring evidence (Daizenshuu levels in the Ginyu Arc) just to shift the conversation in favor of your point.

Dazenshuu sucks. Its BS. Its all made up , Evidence shows Krillin being relevant to Frieza 1st form along with Gohan and Krillin.

Believe what you want to , son. Calling me troll doesn't bring you anywhere , specially when you're a newb here.
I'm not a son.

And it's "especially" and "noob".

If you want to ignore an official guide book, then arguing with you is completely pointless, and any point that you make has no basis in true argument other than you want it to be that. You might as well say that Tenshinhan was the strongest person at the end of Z, wouldn't make it true, but from the logic that you've chosen to use to found your arguments, maybe we're all wrong. Maybe Tenshinhan is as strong as SSj4 Gogeta. We don't know because we will choose to ignore official data and just willy nilly make people as strong as we want them to be, just because we can.

And my original point was that it's very unlikely that a human would ever reach 1,000,000. If 99% of Saiyans could never do it even though they have a genetic predisposition to be stronger than humans, it's even more rare for a human to ever be able to get that high. I'm not saying it's impossible, just almost. And if Krillin isn't seen to be anywhere near that level in his prime, then who's to say Tenshinhan ever got that high? Even if it were likely to reach 1,000,000, I highly doubt that three years training on Earth with Roshi would do the trick. They'd need continued special training in special locations in order to make a real difference.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:16 AM
Base Goku made boasts about an using an item. Buutenks then would think Goku is boasting about an item, whatever it is. Buutenks acknowledge Tien strength to Goku by mentioning the one kick context.

Though There doesn't have to be a real reason on why Buuhan never compared Tien to SSJ3. Other than The manga quotes shows Buuhan sees Base Goku and Tien as the same. Because it was Base Goku on confrontation with Buutenks.
Base Goku being the one facing Bootenks doesn't make a bit of difference. If there is a comparison, then Tien is being compared to SSJ3 Goku, hell, even higher because Goku is planning on using other means to beat Boo.

I already showed you the quote, and I've shown you the lack of a comparison in that quote.
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Tien is like 100,000 at best EoZ.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:24 AM
zenet
Feb 14 2013, 03:16 AM
Base Goku made boasts about an using an item. Buutenks then would think Goku is boasting about an item, whatever it is. Buutenks acknowledge Tien strength to Goku by mentioning the one kick context.

Though There doesn't have to be a real reason on why Buuhan never compared Tien to SSJ3. Other than The manga quotes shows Buuhan sees Base Goku and Tien as the same. Because it was Base Goku on confrontation with Buutenks.
Base Goku being the one facing Bootenks doesn't make a bit of difference. If there is a comparison, then Tien is being compared to SSJ3 Goku, hell, even higher because Goku is planning on using other means to beat Boo.

I already showed you the quote, and I've shown you the lack of a comparison in that quote.
It makes more sense that the magna makes it appear Buutenks ignoring SSJ3 to clarify Tien power to the viewers / readers than just randomly mentioning Tien for no apparent reason Buutenks already told Goku that he was no match for him so why would Buutenks essentially repeat the same thing if he wasn't using Tenshinhan as an example? Tien below Base Kids (pre) while Base Goku is as strong as Piccolo and used as intimidation? That makes no sense at all.
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lol mentions Tien when Supah Saiyan 3 Goku is right there
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Feb 14 2013, 03:33 AM
It makes more sense that the magna makes it appear Buutenks ignoring SSJ3 to clarify Tien power to the viewers / readers than just randomly mentioning Tien for no apparent reason Buutenks already told Goku that he was no match for him so why would Buutenks essentially repeat the same thing if he wasn't using Tenshinhan as an example? Tien below Base Kids (pre) while Base Goku is as strong as Piccolo and used as intimidation? That makes no sense at all.
Tien was brought in as a plot device, nothing more. That much was obvious.
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Feb 14 2013, 03:40 AM
lol mentions Tien when Supah Saiyan 3 Goku is right there
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