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My Tien power levels and placements.
Topic Started: Feb 10 2013, 11:10 AM (5,484 Views)
Zenet Feb 13 2013, 11:44 PM Post #46
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Animelover5487
Feb 13 2013, 11:29 PM
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Feb 13 2013, 10:51 PM
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Feb 13 2013, 10:21 PM
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Feb 13 2013, 09:32 PM
Andriod arc Tien should be higher than 35 million because of what he did to Semi Cell
In Buu arc Tien - Base Goku


Tien is no where near Base Goku better yet his shown to be no where near the Base Kids in the buu arc, Krillin was stated to be the strongest human and we know judging by this that Base Kids > Krillin

Chapter: 430 (DBZ 236), P14.1-3
Context: after Trunks is told of the youth division
Trunks: “That’s alright! Let me fight with the adults”
Tournament guy: “Eh!? No, no. Those are the rules.”
Trunks: “Cheh!”
Kuririn: “Phew!”
Krilin was said to be the strongest based on Cell Games. Tien was never seen after the Cell Games.

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P7.1
Context: talking to Goku after knocking out Tenshinhan
Boo: “…That guy just now was apparently quite a master, but he was reduced to that state in just 1 one kick…You’re making some worthless boasts…Frankly, no matter what you try, you absolutely won’t be able to even inflict damage on me.”

Buutenks is obviously trying to intimidate Base Goku by knocking out Tenshinhan in one kick. On the second line Is a boast that transforming would make no difference in the outcome.






AT also says Krillin is the strongest human




Speaking of women who fight, there is No. 18.

Toriyama:
Ah, that’s right. No. 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end.

Nozawa:
Ah, I was surprised at that, too! All the voice actors wondered, “Why did she choose Kuririn?” (laughs)

Toriyama:
Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…

Koyama:
Well, he is the strongest Earthling male.

Toriyama:
You’re right, he is the strongest among the Earthlings. But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. (laughs)




http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8387412/1/




I see you use that argument ALL the time, cant you bring something new to the table? Buu had also saw Ultimate Gohan and didn't call him a master so are you saying that Tien is stronger than Ultimate Gohan?! If so than I have nothing to say here.



Anyway I already proved to you that Krillin was for all of dbz except for the Saiyan arc was the strongest human and he was stated to be weaker than the Base Kids so all of that kills your argument to why Tien is so powerful.
Interviews are not official though. Interviewers just feeds information to the guy and just accepts it which makes them unreliable.

Did Buutenks harm Gohan in front Goku?

Krillin being the stronger Human for most of the series doesn't mean he will remain the strongest. As Tien trained seriously for 7 years.

Tien Below Base Kids but used to Intermediate Base Goku?



Edited by Zenet, Feb 13 2013, 11:57 PM.
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+ Kyouks Feb 13 2013, 11:47 PM Post #47
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 Get off of this intimidate Goku stuff. If he's supposed to intimidate Goku, he's SSJ3 tier, which is bs.
Edited by Kyouks, Feb 13 2013, 11:48 PM.
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Zenet Feb 13 2013, 11:54 PM Post #48
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Feb 13 2013, 11:47 PM
Get off of this intimidate Goku stuff. If he's supposed to intimidate Goku, he's SSJ3 tier, which is bs.
The “one kick context” would refer to Tien strength because its a threat based on Base Goku on being beaten easily. As Buutenks can detect Ki.

On the second line its a boast that anything else he tries which includes transforming wont help the outcome. so its not a comparison between SSJ3 and Tien
Edited by Zenet, Feb 13 2013, 11:59 PM.
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Animelover5487 Feb 14 2013, 12:03 AM Post #49
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Feb 13 2013, 11:44 PM
Animelover5487
Feb 13 2013, 11:29 PM
zenet
Feb 13 2013, 10:51 PM
Animelover5487
Feb 13 2013, 10:21 PM
zenet
Feb 13 2013, 09:32 PM
Andriod arc Tien should be higher than 35 million because of what he did to Semi Cell
In Buu arc Tien - Base Goku


Tien is no where near Base Goku better yet his shown to be no where near the Base Kids in the buu arc, Krillin was stated to be the strongest human and we know judging by this that Base Kids > Krillin

Chapter: 430 (DBZ 236), P14.1-3
Context: after Trunks is told of the youth division
Trunks: “That’s alright! Let me fight with the adults”
Tournament guy: “Eh!? No, no. Those are the rules.”
Trunks: “Cheh!”
Kuririn: “Phew!”
Krilin was said to be the strongest based on Cell Games. Tien was never seen after the Cell Games.

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P7.1
Context: talking to Goku after knocking out Tenshinhan
Boo: “…That guy just now was apparently quite a master, but he was reduced to that state in just 1 one kick…You’re making some worthless boasts…Frankly, no matter what you try, you absolutely won’t be able to even inflict damage on me.”

Buutenks is obviously trying to intimidate Base Goku by knocking out Tenshinhan in one kick. On the second line Is a boast that transforming would make no difference in the outcome.






AT also says Krillin is the strongest human




Speaking of women who fight, there is No. 18.

Toriyama:
Ah, that’s right. No. 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end.

Nozawa:
Ah, I was surprised at that, too! All the voice actors wondered, “Why did she choose Kuririn?” (laughs)

Toriyama:
Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…

Koyama:
Well, he is the strongest Earthling male.

Toriyama:
You’re right, he is the strongest among the Earthlings. But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. (laughs)




http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8387412/1/




I see you use that argument ALL the time, cant you bring something new to the table? Buu had also saw Ultimate Gohan and didn't call him a master so are you saying that Tien is stronger than Ultimate Gohan?! If so than I have nothing to say here.



Anyway I already proved to you that Krillin was for all of dbz except for the Saiyan arc was the strongest human and he was stated to be weaker than the Base Kids so all of that kills your argument to why Tien is so powerful.
Interviews are not official though. Interviewers just feeds information to the guy and just accepts it which makes them unreliable.

Did Buutenks harm Gohan in front Goku?

Krillin being the stronger Human for most of the series doesn't mean he will remain the strongest. As Tien trained seriously for 7 years.

Tien Below Base Kids but used to Intermediate Base Goku?








WTF, that interview came straight from Toriyama please dont tell me your arguing with Toriyama.




Goku knows that Gotenks - Boo was capable of beating Gohan so him taking out Tien would be pointless if Goku already knew he was capable of doing that.



Tien is pretty irrelevant at this point thus his gains aren't that big anymore he wouldn't even be at 18's level by the EoGT.
Edited by Animelover5487, Feb 14 2013, 12:04 AM.
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+ Kyouks Feb 14 2013, 12:06 AM Post #50
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Feb 13 2013, 11:54 PM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu
Feb 13 2013, 11:47 PM
Get off of this intimidate Goku stuff. If he's supposed to intimidate Goku, he's SSJ3 tier, which is bs.
The “one kick context” would refer to Tien strength because its a threat based on Base Goku on being beaten easily. As Buutenks can detect Ki.

On the second line its a boast that anything else he tries which includes transforming wont help the outcome. so its not a comparison between SSJ3 and Tien
You're missing the point completely. You say he wants to intimidate Base Goku, even though Goku has many more transformations. It doesn't matter how you break up the quote, in the end, intimidating Base Goku is useless when Bootenks even states right before this that Goku can transform.

Point is, it means jack about Tien's power.
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Zenet Feb 14 2013, 12:19 AM Post #51
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Feb 14 2013, 12:03 AM
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Feb 13 2013, 11:44 PM
Animelover5487
Feb 13 2013, 11:29 PM
zenet
Feb 13 2013, 10:51 PM
Animelover5487
Feb 13 2013, 10:21 PM
zenet
Feb 13 2013, 09:32 PM
Andriod arc Tien should be higher than 35 million because of what he did to Semi Cell
In Buu arc Tien - Base Goku


Tien is no where near Base Goku better yet his shown to be no where near the Base Kids in the buu arc, Krillin was stated to be the strongest human and we know judging by this that Base Kids > Krillin

Chapter: 430 (DBZ 236), P14.1-3
Context: after Trunks is told of the youth division
Trunks: “That’s alright! Let me fight with the adults”
Tournament guy: “Eh!? No, no. Those are the rules.”
Trunks: “Cheh!”
Kuririn: “Phew!”
Krilin was said to be the strongest based on Cell Games. Tien was never seen after the Cell Games.

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P7.1
Context: talking to Goku after knocking out Tenshinhan
Boo: “…That guy just now was apparently quite a master, but he was reduced to that state in just 1 one kick…You’re making some worthless boasts…Frankly, no matter what you try, you absolutely won’t be able to even inflict damage on me.”

Buutenks is obviously trying to intimidate Base Goku by knocking out Tenshinhan in one kick. On the second line Is a boast that transforming would make no difference in the outcome.






AT also says Krillin is the strongest human




Speaking of women who fight, there is No. 18.

Toriyama:
Ah, that’s right. No. 18 becomes Kuririn’s wife in the end.

Nozawa:
Ah, I was surprised at that, too! All the voice actors wondered, “Why did she choose Kuririn?” (laughs)

Toriyama:
Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…

Koyama:
Well, he is the strongest Earthling male.

Toriyama:
You’re right, he is the strongest among the Earthlings. But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. (laughs)




http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8387412/1/




I see you use that argument ALL the time, cant you bring something new to the table? Buu had also saw Ultimate Gohan and didn't call him a master so are you saying that Tien is stronger than Ultimate Gohan?! If so than I have nothing to say here.



Anyway I already proved to you that Krillin was for all of dbz except for the Saiyan arc was the strongest human and he was stated to be weaker than the Base Kids so all of that kills your argument to why Tien is so powerful.
Interviews are not official though. Interviewers just feeds information to the guy and just accepts it which makes them unreliable.

Did Buutenks harm Gohan in front Goku?

Krillin being the stronger Human for most of the series doesn't mean he will remain the strongest. As Tien trained seriously for 7 years.

Tien Below Base Kids but used to Intermediate Base Goku?








WTF, that interview came straight from Toriyama please dont tell me your arguing with Toriyama.




Goku knows that Gotenks - Boo was capable of beating Gohan so him taking out Tien would be pointless if Goku already knew he was capable of doing that.



Tien is pretty irrelevant at this point thus his gains aren't that big anymore he wouldn't even be at 18's level by the EoGT.
Magna evidence over interview.

Goku Knowing Buutenks was cable doing anything to Gohan doesn’t disprove Buutenks reference.

Tien was irrelevant from Saiyan saga so shouldn’t pass Napa by that logic.

Kiosko Iwannabegattsu: Its a comparison with Base Goku power as Goku was claiming something to Buutenks. the quote shows transforming or whatever he tries wont change anything.

If Tien is irrelevant to Goku what's the point of the quote of being mentioned?
Edited by Zenet, Feb 14 2013, 12:36 AM.
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+ Kyouks Feb 14 2013, 12:35 AM Post #52
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Feb 14 2013, 12:19 AM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu: Its not a comparison with SSJ3 the quote shows transforming wont change anything.

If Tien is irrelevant to Base Goku what's the point of the quote of being mentioned?
You just don't get it, do you?

It's not a comparison of anything. Either Tien is SSJ3 tier or he's trash and the quote is meaningless. Take your pick, because the sequence makes no goddamn sense if you use only a portion of Goku's power.
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* Yu Narukami Feb 14 2013, 12:38 AM Post #53
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Izanagi!

 Well, Vegeta expects Krillin to be at least somewhat relevant to Freeza in his first form and his estimated Second Form. Krillin was way above 75,000, imo.
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GridZero Feb 14 2013, 12:40 AM Post #54
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znet is too afraid to say that he thinks Tenshinhan is SSJ3 tier.

This is the conclusion I have come to.
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Zenet Feb 14 2013, 12:48 AM Post #55
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu: Its not a comparison with SSJ3 the quote shows transforming wont change anything.

If Tien is irrelevant to Base Goku what's the point of the quote of being mentioned?
You just don't get it, do you?

It's not a comparison of anything. Either Tien is SSJ3 tier or he's trash and the quote is meaningless. Take your pick, because the sequence makes no goddamn sense if you use only a portion of Goku's power.

Buutenks made an example out of Tenshinhan in order to intimidate Base Goku;He Basically says transforming wont change the outcome of the fight how does that not make sense? He even says it not my words.. Of course Buu couldn't sense SSJ/SSJ2/SSJ3 Goku when he was Fat and he didn't know that Goku witnessed him lay a beating on Gohan. in-other words He sees the transformations as a petty increase
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sylentknyte Feb 14 2013, 01:19 AM Post #56
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 The more I think about it, the more I think the humans hardly touched the millions. Look at Roshi as an example. He peaked around 150, and that was it. It's quite possible that Tien, Krillen, Yamcha, and Chaoitzu peaked in the hundred thousands. I mean, what evidence do we have they ever went beyond that? They are a complete joke in the Android saga and beyond. Would training with Roshi and each other really put them in the millions? I say Krillen and Tien peak at 200ish thousand each, while Yamcha peaks at Ginyu force level.
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Animelover5487 Feb 14 2013, 01:22 AM Post #57
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The more I think about it, the more I think the humans hardly touched the millions. Look at Roshi as an example. He peaked around 150, and that was it. It's quite possible that Tien, Krillen, Yamcha, and Chaoitzu peaked in the hundred thousands. I mean, what evidence do we have they ever went beyond that? They are a complete joke in the Android saga and beyond. Would training with Roshi and each other really put them in the millions? I say Krillen and Tien peak at 200ish thousand each, while Yamcha peaks at Ginyu force level.


Well Krillin was already getting close to a million by the Trunks arc since Vegeta thought that he would be useful aganist a Hypothetical 2nd Form Freeza.
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+ Kyouks Feb 14 2013, 01:23 AM Post #58
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Kiosko Iwannabegattsu: Its not a comparison with SSJ3 the quote shows transforming wont change anything.

If Tien is irrelevant to Base Goku what's the point of the quote of being mentioned?
You just don't get it, do you?

It's not a comparison of anything. Either Tien is SSJ3 tier or he's trash and the quote is meaningless. Take your pick, because the sequence makes no goddamn sense if you use only a portion of Goku's power.

Buutenks made an example out of Tenshinhan in order to intimidate Base Goku;He Basically says transforming wont change the outcome of the fight how does that not make sense?
Because intimidating Base Goku means jack crap when he has other transformations. If transforming won't help, and Tien was supposed to show that, then Tien's SSJ3 tier.

Or the quote is simply Bootenks talking big and you're making things far more complicated than they need to be.
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Zenet Feb 14 2013, 01:30 AM Post #59
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Feb 14 2013, 12:48 AM
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Feb 14 2013, 12:35 AM
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Feb 14 2013, 12:19 AM
Kiosko Iwannabegattsu: Its not a comparison with SSJ3 the quote shows transforming wont change anything.

If Tien is irrelevant to Base Goku what's the point of the quote of being mentioned?
You just don't get it, do you?

It's not a comparison of anything. Either Tien is SSJ3 tier or he's trash and the quote is meaningless. Take your pick, because the sequence makes no goddamn sense if you use only a portion of Goku's power.

Buutenks made an example out of Tenshinhan in order to intimidate Base Goku;He Basically says transforming wont change the outcome of the fight how does that not make sense?
Because intimidating Base Goku means jack crap when he has other transformations. If transforming won't help, and Tien was supposed to show that, then Tien's SSJ3 tier.

Or the quote is simply Bootenks talking big and you're making things far more complicated than they need to be.
Ignored rest of my comment when it disproves what your saying. Buutenks sees the transformations as petty increases compared to his Base state.
Its only statement that gave clues about Tien power other than that its fans assumptions.
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+ Kyouks Feb 14 2013, 01:35 AM Post #60
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Feb 14 2013, 01:30 AM
Ignored rest of my comment when it disproves what your saying. Buutenks sees the transformations as petty increases that is all.

Its only statement that gave clues about Tien power other than that its fans assumptions.
The rest of your comment doesn't mean crap. Here, I'll respond now if you want.

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He even says it not my words.. Of course Buu couldn't sense SSJ/SSJ2/SSJ3 Goku when he was Fat and he didn't know that Goku witnessed him lay a beating on Gohan. in-other words He sees the transformations as a petty increase
He's making fun of them, which in no way equates to some comparison between Tien and Base Goku.

He knew his own power back when he was Fat Boo and he fought SSJ3 Goku, he knows his power pretty damn well.

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Its only statement that gave clues about Tien power other than that its fans assumptions.
Everything you're spouting here falls under the category of 'fan assumptions', you're making a comparison out of a scene where no comparison is made.
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