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| + Kyouks | Jan 22 2013, 07:15 PM Post #91 |
 
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Being the 3rd strongest in the manga isn't weaker than Raditz. You're starting to sound like this guy on my ignore list. It's ridiculous. I can just easily say Gogeta fanboyism is out if control. Try to properly refute some of my points for once. Edited by Kyouks, Jan 22 2013, 07:20 PM.
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| * Crashbreaka | Jan 22 2013, 07:20 PM Post #92 |
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The kids weren't untrained either. |
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| jonte9195 | Jan 22 2013, 08:37 PM Post #93 |
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So we went from years of Vegetto Vs Gogeta topics on multiple forms to Gogeta (SSJ) vs Gotenks SSJ3.... This is gonna be a long few years... |
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| + Solid Snake | Jan 23 2013, 12:56 AM Post #94 |
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whoever said the kids surpassed their fathers is wrong, buu took on, after gotenks fusion, piccolo's attire. if the kids were stronger than why didn't buu take on one of their attributes? because they're weaker than the namek, that same namek that vegeta pre majin called thrash. the kids are beneath piccolo who in turn is beneath pre majin vegeta who's below goku. |
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| + miguelnuva | Jan 23 2013, 02:58 AM Post #95 |
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Why does everyone say Gogeta is haxed in M12 when Vegeta= canon self? Goku and Vegeta fusion is just haxed like that. I'm not going to get into how strong Goten and Trunks are versus how they compare to Goku and Vegeta but one could assume MSSJ Vegito>>>>>Buuhan>MSSJ Vegito(expected)>/=MSSJ Gogeta. Goku and Vegeta never go all out from the start against a stronger opponent they like the fell the person out first before then deciding where they need to be to destroy said opponent. Once again Gogeta isn't haxed Goku/Vegeta fusion is haxed. |
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Jan 23 2013, 06:20 AM Post #96 |
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Ur calculations have a BIG fault ... Mr Pointer Here's how : Vegeta and Goku are EQUAL both till SSj2 [as said by goku and i asked that At EoZ , if they were still equal , most people said Yes] So ... if Base Goku = 10 , then Base Vegeta = 10 too Then ........ Gogeta Base = (10+10)*100 = 2000 SSj = 2000*10 =20000 SSj2 = 20000*2 = 40000 SSj3 = 40000*4 = 160000 Now Goten base = 4 and Trunks Base = 5 [taking ur numbers] Gotenks Base = (4+4)*100=800 SSj = 800*10 = 8000 SSj2 = 8000*2 = 16000 SSj3 = 16000*4 = 64000 What happens ? When Both are at Same level , [say SSj3] .. Gogeta = 2.5x Gotenks When Gogeta is at a level below [say SSj2] and Gotenks is at SSj3 ... SSj3 Gotenks = 1.6x SSj2 Gogeta Yes .. i admit that SSj3 Gotenks have a Power advantage over SSJ2 Gogeta ... but u are forgetting 3 things : Skill , Experience and Attitude Gogeta is FAR more skilled than Gotenks , has WAY MORE Experience than Gotenks and like in Fusion reborn , he is not Playful like Gotenks ... [i think Gogeta has Vegito's Attitude] ... Isnt it possible for SSj2 Gogeta to use his Skill and Experience to defeat SSj3 Gotenks ... He knows he can just Crush SSj3 Gotenks by Going SSj3 himself .... would he do it ? he has Goku and Vegeta in him .... those guyz who refused to use Potara to have a Fair Fight [alone] against Kid Buu... its possible for Gogeta to do the same ... not going to a level where he can CRUSH his opponent ......... but trying to defeta him in a lower level Mr Pointer , take a GOOD Cup of Coffee , read my post thoroughly , think of the theories and then make ur next post ... Edited by DSB, Jan 23 2013, 06:23 AM.
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 23 2013, 11:50 AM Post #97 |
 
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Lol , If SSJ3 Gotenks is at 64000 , and SSJ2 Gogeta at 40000 according to your calculations then its obvious that skills,techniques and attitude don't really matter here. Because it was mostly never made difference in battles through the series. If Gotenks isn't serous , so is Gogeta. If Gogeta can be serious , so is Gotenks too. |
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Well it is very unlikely that SSj2 Gogeta can beat SSj3 Gotenks .... But look at this : Gogeta Goes from 1.6x less stronger to 2.5x more stronger ......... Isnt this difference enough But one more thing i would never keep Goten and Trunks 4 and 5 [respectively] when their Dads are 10 ...... i will go 3 and 4 [respectively] |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jan 23 2013, 12:13 PM Post #99 |
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I wouldn't put Goten and Trunks that low. I'll put them atleast 6 or 7. Don't forget that they are haxed after Rosat.. |
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As they are greatly Haxed after Rosat , i will put them at 4 and 5 , the one which pointer used |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 23 2013, 04:39 PM Post #101 |
 
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I would disagree because, as is pointed out in Herms's translation, when Goku declares that Piccolo is coming out strong, he is not saying why - just that he is. |
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| + Solid Snake | Jan 23 2013, 05:02 PM Post #102 |
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Can you simplify that and make it sound more understandable? Cause I'm lost beyond belief. And I was talking about in Japanese subs. |
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| + Pyrus | Jan 23 2013, 05:19 PM Post #103 |
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According to Herms, the way Son said it in the Japanese version, he was merely noting, "Hey, it looks like Piccolo's characteristics are showing up!" It was not a thought of, "Hey, Piccolo must be stronger than the kids because his characteristics are showing up!" To reiterate, Goku was describing what was happening without going into detail of why it was happening. We fans merely assign our beliefs to what was going on in that situation. |
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Jan 23 2013, 05:32 PM Post #104 |
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Even if it was power related, all it says is that Piccolo > Base Drained Kids. Which should be pretty obvious... |
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| + Solid Snake | Jan 23 2013, 07:36 PM Post #105 |
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So what about Gotenks? |
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