Kiosko Iwannabegattsu

Jan 22 2013, 04:23 AM

Necifix

Jan 22 2013, 04:02 AM

Ah, much better, I get it now. However, I'm not really sure if you can automatically assume he'd go SSj3, or need it. Just because they need fusion to beat Boo doesn't mean that they need all the power that their fusion suggests. Goku simply knows fusion produces incredible results, and given how powerful Gohan and Goku are, they would be exceptionally powerful. Besides, it's the only real option Goku had at the time, and it wasn't a bad one. I doubt he really knew what form they would need to beat him, just that they needed to fuse.

Gohan-Boo > SSJ3 Gogeta, so it'd have to be SSJ3 Gogeta who can beat Gotenks-Boo.

SuperSaiyan2

Jan 22 2013, 04:41 AM

Kiosko Iwannabegattsu

Jan 22 2013, 04:23 AM

Necifix

Jan 22 2013, 04:02 AM

Ah, much better, I get it now. However, I'm not really sure if you can automatically assume he'd go SSj3, or need it. Just because they need fusion to beat Boo doesn't mean that they need all the power that their fusion suggests. Goku simply knows fusion produces incredible results, and given how powerful Gohan and Goku are, they would be exceptionally powerful. Besides, it's the only real option Goku had at the time, and it wasn't a bad one. I doubt he really knew what form they would need to beat him, just that they needed to fuse.

Gohan-Boo > SSJ3 Gogeta, so it'd have to be SSJ3 Gogeta who can beat Gotenks-Boo.

What is there to truthfully say that a SSJ 3 Gogeta cannot beat Buuhan though? We are not given any true implications on his power

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 04:14 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:04 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 03:32 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 11:59 PM

K.O.A.N Antirebel

Jan 21 2013, 05:53 PM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 06:14 AM

sigh. the gotenks fans want to push goten and trunks as close as possible to their fathers so gotenks is stronger by proxy. the kids are garbage compared to their dads therefore gotenks is garbage compared to gogeta.

I hate to present bare facts that most people here know already.

Goten and Trunks are close to Gohan. Gohan is not far off from the adults. Therefore, the kids are not far off from the adults.

Now, if Goten and Trunks fuse by dance, and Goku and Vegeta fuse by dance, and Gogeta goes SSJ and Gotenks goes SSJ3, who wins.

(hint: Gotenks)

goten couldnt land a hit on gohan. they arent close to being equal. he is on his tier but is outclassed skillwise and powerwise.

premajin vegeta thinks that gohan post training for the budokai is trash tier.


pre majin vegeta is far far far far stronger than gohan who outclasses the kids.

premajin vegeta is weaker than goku by a good amount.

post majin vegeta is equal to goku.

goku=post-majin vegeta>premajin vegeta>>>>>>>post budokai training gohan>goten and trunks.


goten and trunks being anywhere near their dads is completely laughable to the point where you even suggesting this makes you look delusional.

gogeta toys and humiliates gotenks in a similar fashion to the way bills stopped ssj3 goku with a finger then beheads him with a karate chop.

The last half of your post has nothing to do with what you actually claimed, good sir.

im not making claims. im stating facts. its fact that goten and trunks are trash tier compared to goku and vegeta and my entire post proved it. in the "Yo Son Goku and his friends return" special which was written by akira toriyama(its just as canon as that special with bills, base goten and trunks are dead even Abo and Kado who were stated to be as strong as frieza.

buu saga trunks and and goten are even weaker than that and by a significant amount since the special happened 2 years after the buu saga. they may be about 80,000,000 in base post-rosat at the max. they are nothing but flies compared to goku and vegeta.

goku and vegeta would one-shot frieza in base while using 1/50th of their base power.

I see where your confusion comes from. It is in fact false that Akira Toriyama wrote the 2008 special. Rather, he came up with an idea and allowed another individual (whose name escapes me) to write the story/script. Furthermore, you may not be aware of this, but the special has a manga counterpart. In said manga counterpart, the boys completely stomp Abo and Cado with no effort from the beginning.

It will become clear, my friend. I will not give up on you.

Kiosko Iwannabegattsu

Jan 22 2013, 04:49 AM

Already went over this SS2. Goku says only Potara can beat Gohan-Boo. Gohan-Boo claims their fusion won't help. 2 statements, one from one of the fusees. More than good enough.

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:57 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 04:14 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:04 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 03:32 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 11:59 PM

K.O.A.N Antirebel

Jan 21 2013, 05:53 PM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 06:14 AM

sigh. the gotenks fans want to push goten and trunks as close as possible to their fathers so gotenks is stronger by proxy. the kids are garbage compared to their dads therefore gotenks is garbage compared to gogeta.

I hate to present bare facts that most people here know already.

Goten and Trunks are close to Gohan. Gohan is not far off from the adults. Therefore, the kids are not far off from the adults.

Now, if Goten and Trunks fuse by dance, and Goku and Vegeta fuse by dance, and Gogeta goes SSJ and Gotenks goes SSJ3, who wins.

(hint: Gotenks)

goten couldnt land a hit on gohan. they arent close to being equal. he is on his tier but is outclassed skillwise and powerwise.

premajin vegeta thinks that gohan post training for the budokai is trash tier.


pre majin vegeta is far far far far stronger than gohan who outclasses the kids.

premajin vegeta is weaker than goku by a good amount.

post majin vegeta is equal to goku.

goku=post-majin vegeta>premajin vegeta>>>>>>>post budokai training gohan>goten and trunks.


goten and trunks being anywhere near their dads is completely laughable to the point where you even suggesting this makes you look delusional.

gogeta toys and humiliates gotenks in a similar fashion to the way bills stopped ssj3 goku with a finger then beheads him with a karate chop.

The last half of your post has nothing to do with what you actually claimed, good sir.

im not making claims. im stating facts. its fact that goten and trunks are trash tier compared to goku and vegeta and my entire post proved it. in the "Yo Son Goku and his friends return" special which was written by akira toriyama(its just as canon as that special with bills, base goten and trunks are dead even Abo and Kado who were stated to be as strong as frieza.

buu saga trunks and and goten are even weaker than that and by a significant amount since the special happened 2 years after the buu saga. they may be about 80,000,000 in base post-rosat at the max. they are nothing but flies compared to goku and vegeta.

goku and vegeta would one-shot frieza in base while using 1/50th of their base power.

I see where your confusion comes from. It is in fact false that Akira Toriyama wrote the 2008 special. Rather, he came up with an idea and allowed another individual (whose name escapes me) to write the story/script. Furthermore, you may not be aware of this, but the special has a manga counterpart. In said manga counterpart, the boys completely stomp Abo and Cado with no effort from the beginning.

It will become clear, my friend. I will not give up on you.

so basically the boys are stronger than frieza 2 years after the buu saga. this doesnt change that base goku and vegeta are pretty much in the high billions in base while goten and trunks are still in the millions in base. ssj goku pretty much performed better than gotenks which shows the strength gap.

any reason why goku can perform better than gotenks who is a fusion between goten and trunks? goku pretty much does what gotenks was trying to do in about 10 seconds.

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 05:54 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:57 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 04:14 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:04 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 03:32 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 11:59 PM

K.O.A.N Antirebel

Jan 21 2013, 05:53 PM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 06:14 AM

sigh. the gotenks fans want to push goten and trunks as close as possible to their fathers so gotenks is stronger by proxy. the kids are garbage compared to their dads therefore gotenks is garbage compared to gogeta.

I hate to present bare facts that most people here know already.

Goten and Trunks are close to Gohan. Gohan is not far off from the adults. Therefore, the kids are not far off from the adults.

Now, if Goten and Trunks fuse by dance, and Goku and Vegeta fuse by dance, and Gogeta goes SSJ and Gotenks goes SSJ3, who wins.

(hint: Gotenks)

goten couldnt land a hit on gohan. they arent close to being equal. he is on his tier but is outclassed skillwise and powerwise.

premajin vegeta thinks that gohan post training for the budokai is trash tier.


pre majin vegeta is far far far far stronger than gohan who outclasses the kids.

premajin vegeta is weaker than goku by a good amount.

post majin vegeta is equal to goku.

goku=post-majin vegeta>premajin vegeta>>>>>>>post budokai training gohan>goten and trunks.


goten and trunks being anywhere near their dads is completely laughable to the point where you even suggesting this makes you look delusional.

gogeta toys and humiliates gotenks in a similar fashion to the way bills stopped ssj3 goku with a finger then beheads him with a karate chop.

The last half of your post has nothing to do with what you actually claimed, good sir.

im not making claims. im stating facts. its fact that goten and trunks are trash tier compared to goku and vegeta and my entire post proved it. in the "Yo Son Goku and his friends return" special which was written by akira toriyama(its just as canon as that special with bills, base goten and trunks are dead even Abo and Kado who were stated to be as strong as frieza.

buu saga trunks and and goten are even weaker than that and by a significant amount since the special happened 2 years after the buu saga. they may be about 80,000,000 in base post-rosat at the max. they are nothing but flies compared to goku and vegeta.

goku and vegeta would one-shot frieza in base while using 1/50th of their base power.

I see where your confusion comes from. It is in fact false that Akira Toriyama wrote the 2008 special. Rather, he came up with an idea and allowed another individual (whose name escapes me) to write the story/script. Furthermore, you may not be aware of this, but the special has a manga counterpart. In said manga counterpart, the boys completely stomp Abo and Cado with no effort from the beginning.

It will become clear, my friend. I will not give up on you.

so basically the boys are stronger than frieza 2 years after the buu saga. this doesnt change that base goku and vegeta are pretty much in the high billions in base while goten and trunks are still in the millions in base. ssj goku pretty much performed better than gotenks which shows the strength gap.

any reason why goku can perform better than gotenks who is a fusion between goten and trunks? goku pretty much does what gotenks was trying to do in about 10 seconds.

Sir, do you know that what you are using for evidence is not from Akira Toriyama and not canon?

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 06:08 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 05:54 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:57 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 04:14 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 22 2013, 04:04 AM

Kamikaze Pyro

Jan 22 2013, 03:32 AM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 11:59 PM

K.O.A.N Antirebel

Jan 21 2013, 05:53 PM

MAJIN_VEGITO

Jan 21 2013, 06:14 AM

sigh. the gotenks fans want to push goten and trunks as close as possible to their fathers so gotenks is stronger by proxy. the kids are garbage compared to their dads therefore gotenks is garbage compared to gogeta.

I hate to present bare facts that most people here know already.

Goten and Trunks are close to Gohan. Gohan is not far off from the adults. Therefore, the kids are not far off from the adults.

Now, if Goten and Trunks fuse by dance, and Goku and Vegeta fuse by dance, and Gogeta goes SSJ and Gotenks goes SSJ3, who wins.

(hint: Gotenks)

goten couldnt land a hit on gohan. they arent close to being equal. he is on his tier but is outclassed skillwise and powerwise.

premajin vegeta thinks that gohan post training for the budokai is trash tier.


pre majin vegeta is far far far far stronger than gohan who outclasses the kids.

premajin vegeta is weaker than goku by a good amount.

post majin vegeta is equal to goku.

goku=post-majin vegeta>premajin vegeta>>>>>>>post budokai training gohan>goten and trunks.


goten and trunks being anywhere near their dads is completely laughable to the point where you even suggesting this makes you look delusional.

gogeta toys and humiliates gotenks in a similar fashion to the way bills stopped ssj3 goku with a finger then beheads him with a karate chop.

The last half of your post has nothing to do with what you actually claimed, good sir.

im not making claims. im stating facts. its fact that goten and trunks are trash tier compared to goku and vegeta and my entire post proved it. in the "Yo Son Goku and his friends return" special which was written by akira toriyama(its just as canon as that special with bills, base goten and trunks are dead even Abo and Kado who were stated to be as strong as frieza.

buu saga trunks and and goten are even weaker than that and by a significant amount since the special happened 2 years after the buu saga. they may be about 80,000,000 in base post-rosat at the max. they are nothing but flies compared to goku and vegeta.

goku and vegeta would one-shot frieza in base while using 1/50th of their base power.

I see where your confusion comes from. It is in fact false that Akira Toriyama wrote the 2008 special. Rather, he came up with an idea and allowed another individual (whose name escapes me) to write the story/script. Furthermore, you may not be aware of this, but the special has a manga counterpart. In said manga counterpart, the boys completely stomp Abo and Cado with no effort from the beginning.

It will become clear, my friend. I will not give up on you.

so basically the boys are stronger than frieza 2 years after the buu saga. this doesnt change that base goku and vegeta are pretty much in the high billions in base while goten and trunks are still in the millions in base. ssj goku pretty much performed better than gotenks which shows the strength gap.

any reason why goku can perform better than gotenks who is a fusion between goten and trunks? goku pretty much does what gotenks was trying to do in about 10 seconds.

Sir, do you know that what you are using for evidence is not from Akira Toriyama and not canon?

ok? they still cant make the characters stronger than they are in canon. its irrelevant though as the kids arent portrayed to be anywhere near goku and vegeta in manga canon.

SuperSaiyan2

Jan 22 2013, 04:41 AM

Kiosko Iwannabegattsu

Jan 22 2013, 04:23 AM

Necifix

Jan 22 2013, 04:02 AM

Ah, much better, I get it now. However, I'm not really sure if you can automatically assume he'd go SSj3, or need it. Just because they need fusion to beat Boo doesn't mean that they need all the power that their fusion suggests. Goku simply knows fusion produces incredible results, and given how powerful Gohan and Goku are, they would be exceptionally powerful. Besides, it's the only real option Goku had at the time, and it wasn't a bad one. I doubt he really knew what form they would need to beat him, just that they needed to fuse.

Gohan-Boo > SSJ3 Gogeta, so it'd have to be SSJ3 Gogeta who can beat Gotenks-Boo.

What is there to truthfully say that a SSJ 3 Gogeta cannot beat Buuhan though? We are not given any true implications on his power

DSB

Jan 22 2013, 06:12 AM

If anyone thinks SSj Tunks and Goten [post rosat] are greater than or equal to SSj Goku and Vegeta [Boo Saga] ... he must be a retard

SSj Gogeta > SSj3 Gotenks

Pointer

Jan 22 2013, 10:15 AM

DSB

Jan 22 2013, 06:12 AM

If anyone thinks SSj Tunks and Goten [post rosat] are greater than or equal to SSj Goku and Vegeta [Boo Saga] ... he must be a retard

SSj Gogeta > SSj3 Gotenks

So You think Post rosat Goten and Trunks 10* weaker than base Goku???
I Think SSj3 Gogeta >SSJ3Gotenks>SSJ2Gogeta>SSJ2Gotenks>SSj Gogeta>SSJ Gotenks> BAse Gogeta> Base Gotenks