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Do Fans rate DBZ Strength levels higher than they are because of Fanboyism?
Topic Started: Jan 20 2013, 08:19 PM (854 Views)
Revious83
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Do DBZ fans really blow the strength levels of the DBZ Characters out of proportion because of Fanboyism? I don't think they do. It's just that Akira Toriyama didn't really explain how their strength features progress while their Ki level increases. Like how does it affect Goku's physical strength and speed if his Ki level increases a million times. Normally you would just assume his features progress by a thousand too. I mean, before i saw the Buu saga scene i thought base Goku should have been able to lift atleast 1.000.000 tons.
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Liarzax
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AT should release a Re-Mastered Edition.
And fix all his F**k Ups ^.^

I mean, Considering the millions of people that love his DBZ world, it's the least he could do...
- Fix Inconsistencies,
- Re write parts of retarded dialogue,
- put a miniscule of brainpower into his PL/BL B*****t,
- etc 4 lyphe...
or just not give a F***k like he already does.

*Shrugs* hint hint?
I'm not Disputing whats Cannon, I'm Disputing whats Stupid.
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+ Kyouks
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Toriyama has said that the characters his a physical limit which can only be pushed through by using chi, which is probably the reason why we have these "inconsistencies." Personally, I don't try to overthink the concept very much.
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Power scaling needs to be used in DBZ. The plot revolves around battles on planets. Vegeta at 18,000 was a planet buster, and for instance, SSJ Vegito is thousands, if not millions times stronger.

Going by feats alone 1st form Freiza>>>>> SSJ 3 Goku
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IllogicalGlory
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Revious83
Jan 20 2013, 08:19 PM
base Goku should have been able to lift atleast 1.000.000 tons.
Indeed he should. Goku BoDB could lift about a ton. Goku at the 23rd tournament could lift giant Piccolo who was way more than 40 tons.
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Nah we don't know how much Piccolo weighed. He could have been nothing but air for all we know. Although there is that gigantic rock he pushed. Personally I think that the 40 tonne feat was just using his raw strength, not amped by ki (yeah the theory isn't perfect but I'm working on it.
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Jan 21 2013, 03:45 AM
Nah we don't know how much Piccolo weighed. He could have been nothing but air for all we know. Although there is that gigantic rock he pushed. Personally I think that the 40 tonne feat was just using his raw strength, not amped by ki (yeah the theory isn't perfect but I'm working on it.
Piccolo's digestive system was enlarged. So therefore, we know that everything else was enlarged too. If it wasn't, Goku would not have been able to retrieve Kami from his throat.

The 40 ton thing is just indicative that Toriyama doesn't have a sense of scale.
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Oh well. We got what we got. Sucks, doesn't it?
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IllogicalGlory
Jan 21 2013, 05:06 AM
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Jan 21 2013, 03:45 AM
Nah we don't know how much Piccolo weighed. He could have been nothing but air for all we know. Although there is that gigantic rock he pushed. Personally I think that the 40 tonne feat was just using his raw strength, not amped by ki (yeah the theory isn't perfect but I'm working on it.
Piccolo's digestive system was enlarged. So therefore, we know that everything else was enlarged too. If it wasn't, Goku would not have been able to retrieve Kami from his throat.

The 40 ton thing is just indicative that Toriyama doesn't have a sense of scale.
It didn't have to enlarge. It might have ballooned instead.
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Jan 21 2013, 05:33 AM
IllogicalGlory
Jan 21 2013, 05:06 AM
Crashbreaka
Jan 21 2013, 03:45 AM
Nah we don't know how much Piccolo weighed. He could have been nothing but air for all we know. Although there is that gigantic rock he pushed. Personally I think that the 40 tonne feat was just using his raw strength, not amped by ki (yeah the theory isn't perfect but I'm working on it.
Piccolo's digestive system was enlarged. So therefore, we know that everything else was enlarged too. If it wasn't, Goku would not have been able to retrieve Kami from his throat.

The 40 ton thing is just indicative that Toriyama doesn't have a sense of scale.
It didn't have to enlarge. It might have ballooned instead.
I think his weight increased too, because his footsteps sounded very heavy.
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Canon is canon though, the 40 tonnes is in the manga and it can't just be ignored. In terms of lifting, that's all he's capable of in base.

OT: Yeah people do, I mean just look at that Death Battle thing. They admitted that they really haxed Goku to make it a better fight and make it look closer than it actually was (like making him 2x light even though he has 0 feats to support that) and still people complained about it saying Goku was made out to be too weak. It's just human nature to think better of something you like.

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Revious83
Jan 21 2013, 06:47 AM
Crashbreaka
Jan 21 2013, 05:33 AM
IllogicalGlory
Jan 21 2013, 05:06 AM
Crashbreaka
Jan 21 2013, 03:45 AM
Nah we don't know how much Piccolo weighed. He could have been nothing but air for all we know. Although there is that gigantic rock he pushed. Personally I think that the 40 tonne feat was just using his raw strength, not amped by ki (yeah the theory isn't perfect but I'm working on it.
Piccolo's digestive system was enlarged. So therefore, we know that everything else was enlarged too. If it wasn't, Goku would not have been able to retrieve Kami from his throat.

The 40 ton thing is just indicative that Toriyama doesn't have a sense of scale.
It didn't have to enlarge. It might have ballooned instead.
I think his weight increased too, because his footsteps sounded very heavy.
Sounded heavy in the manga? :lol:

Ehh, TBH I kinda agree with you (I'm just being a douche). Toriyama should have been able to scale things better, but that's what we got.
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DBZ gets haxed all the time and some of those people are here on this board right now. I never forget I was on one board where the battle of DBZ versus the PPGs came out and people with batsh*t insane.
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All comes down to what i said earlier.
We need a Re-Mastered Version. ^.^
- Fix retarded-ism.
I'm not Disputing whats Cannon, I'm Disputing whats Stupid.
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