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| Cal | Jan 20 2013, 01:35 AM Post #16 |
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I think though we should be more worried about the overall mentality of the section on a fundamenata level. Dealing with spammers, trolls, dupes etc keeps the sections from getting more *****ty but I'm wondering if the member base and mods are willing to put in actual effort to improve the section. Sustaining the quality of an already low quality section isn't the way to grow. |
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Jan 20 2013, 01:35 AM Post #17 |
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For future reference, I reported Pakl 5 pages into the thread. |
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| * Light | Jan 20 2013, 01:36 AM Post #18 |
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I think depending on how much effort is required to create a new staff role, creating a DBZ section moderator with powers limited to the DBZ section could be a compromise? This would stop the staff team getting bloated but hopefully improve moderating in that particular section. |
 
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| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:37 AM Post #19 |
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Yes, I was acting like a Jackass. Guess what? It shouldn't have gotten to the point where the regular members had to decide whether to wait for the moderators or not. As I said before, if staff aren't able to be online or deal with the situation, then there should be some that can. I don't want to see that section fall, but it is. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:38 AM Post #20 |
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Sorry for the double post, but that would be a good compromise that would be accepted by the majority of people in the Z-section, or so I should think. |
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| * Sousen Ichimonji | Jan 20 2013, 01:43 AM Post #21 |
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I feel that this topic is narrowing down quite considerably. In broad terms, I agree with Naked Snake's thoughts, and also with Light's suggestion. I don't think we should be too heavily sucked into discussions about an example provided in the topic. |
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| * Bex | Jan 20 2013, 01:46 AM Post #22 |
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Stop it right now. I don't know what is getting into all of you, but do you think that as staff all people do is sit around doing nothing? The staff have lives just like all of you do, and when they come on here they work to try and make this place safe, clean and a nice place to be. If you're going around taking the law in your own hands and SPAMMING, which is against the rules, you are doing no better than the troll themself. You're creating more work for the staff to have to clean up and for what reason? What did you as the members actually achieve by doing that? More drama? Note how it only stopped when the staff finally did get involved. You reacting to a troll only makes the incident escalate, that's why the topic ends up being 12 pages long and not 5. I agree that yes, there is an issue here or you would not feel this passionately about it, but we are trying our best to help you. This isn't for our health, we're doing it to help you, so help us do so by trying to maintain your composure in situations like this. We have a pretty decent and active staff team. We have ones on from America, the UK and Australia/New Zealand which should cover most time zones. This to me seems more like a problem with reporting and moderator processing of posts. That can be dealt with internally by the staff. It does not mean that we need to create yet more user-groups and more moderators because the list we have is already rather long. If there really is a problem and a current staff member isn't around, just come and ask me or another retired staff member; we still want to help you too and we'll see what we can do about it for you. |
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:49 AM Post #23 |
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Thank you. I also agree with Light's suggestion. We've had forum mods before (mods that can only moderate 1 particular section) and I think it's time to implement that again in a section that's frustrating so many people. If Tim and Rogue are okay with that we can start discussing candidates for that role. This has been said a few times, but once again I encourage all of you to keep using the report button. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jan 20 2013, 01:49 AM Post #24 |
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If spamming is against the rules, then why didn't the mods warn me and the rest of the people who spammed? Isn't that their job? I apologise, I may have gotten a bit heated there, but I completely disagree with you. I think we do need some sort of group to regulate the Z-section |
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Jan 20 2013, 01:52 AM Post #25 |
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Lately, It seems like a drive for members to be moderators? I've done my time as an Administrator, Moderator, but I still hold some abilities. It's called the Report CP, when I come on, if there is a report, Ill deal with it, if I can. Dragonball section is a bit out of my league, cause sometimes, you guys debate so in depth , its hard to find the root of the troll, so its easier to just lock topics. But to give a member, or two moderator powers for one section, seems like a pit fall on our staff team. Let me tell you , I "advise" around the staff team now, you know, like a retired person who helps when I can, but there is one thing I can tell you about DBZF staff. They do the BEST they can... There is no reason we need to make member moderators, when we use to report CP. If you don't report it, we can't fix it. |
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| Cal | Jan 20 2013, 01:53 AM Post #26 |
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Yea, agree with Light, Sousen, Naked, Strawberry etc. Best way for a culture change in the section is fresh faces who actually care about it and are respected regulars there. Like I said before report button is great and no one is saying our current staff sucks or anything but if you actually want to change it (which most agree it needs) then actually change it. None of this it'll be taken care of crackerjack stuff. |
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:54 AM Post #27 |
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Drew, I understand your frustration but please stop talking like the mods were a bunch of useless, incompetent people. :\ This issue has been acknowledged and solutions are being proposed. Let's keep this topic constructive. |
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| * Light | Jan 20 2013, 01:57 AM Post #28 |
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I mean no insult to any of the current staff, I think they do a great job. But what you've just said to me highlights the issue that many of the moderators aren't particularly involved in the dbz section. We have a seperate staff group for the GFX section, why not the DBZ section? Edit: Just going to say that I haven't posted in the DBZ section in ages so I have no gauge on how bad the situation is or what the circumstances are currently. I agree that the Report button should always be the first port of call but when it's trolling of an in-depth nature I think an active participator of the DBZ section would be useful in those sorts of situations. Edited by Light, Jan 20 2013, 01:59 AM.
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| Strawberry | Jan 20 2013, 01:59 AM Post #29 |
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Exactly. Cal also made a great point. The DB section needs regulars who actively contribute to discussions there (and do it in a respectful manner) to be given some authority so they can continue to do the same they do now but be more autonomous before an issue or a potential troller/spammer. |
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| * Bex | Jan 20 2013, 01:59 AM Post #30 |
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So instead of just asking the staff more attention to it, you'd rather have us create more staff spots so you can do it better? If you think that we need to focus much more of our attention on policing that section then you need to bring that up with us, rather than making a topic effectively going "You guys suck, we can do a better job, give us the power to do it please." In a recent staff meeting we discussed the issue with ridiculous topics in the DBZ section and all the versus sections and we're discussing possible things we can do to remedy those. Now this thing in particular seems more along the lines of you wanting the staff to take more notice of the section and respond better to reports made there; perhaps this requires us to simply remind the staff to follow up reports from the members and not process them until the problem has been dealt with. The situation with Pakl seems like a moderator must've seen the reports and accidentally processed them before someone else had seen them and sorted it out. I could be wrong but if that is the case we can work together to fix it whatever the communication issue was. GFX Section usually requires the staff to have the ability to make GFX. Whilst there is some degree of knowledge involved with DBZ, I wouldn't say it amounted to exactly the same level of necessity to be able to moderate between people... if that makes sense. Take Pookie for example, she is the GFX mod but she's also a Super Moderator and therefore can moderate other parts of the forum if she wishes. She has both of the abilities to do so whereas someone that can't do GFX would only have one of the abilities. Edited by Bex, Jan 20 2013, 02:02 AM.
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