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Dabura vs Pikkon
Topic Started: Jan 19 2013, 10:18 PM (1,097 Views)
Alex D. Boss
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Who spits ?
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In Toei Land, Pikkon would shove a fire poker up Dabura's backside and use him to roast marshmallows with.

But if Pikkon was in the manga, he'd have been fodder even at the Cell Games.
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If we take that Cell moment shet out , then we can put Pikkon at MSSJ Goku tier right?
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Gogeta Movie Pikkon appears to be at least at a level where he wants to fight Janemba 1.

Pikkon takes this. Especially with Burning Shoot.
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Isn't that Pikkon around Majin Buu saga ^

Maybe he got stronger

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Tien Shinhan
Jan 19 2013, 11:14 PM
Isn't that Pikkon around Majin Buu saga ^

Maybe he got stronger

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Gogeta Movie Pikkon is an alternate timeline.

Vegeta blew himself up and either Gohan or Gotenks beats Boo before Goku comes back.

Goku has once again become much stronger than Vegeta since Vegeta didn't have a body prior to Janemba's emergence.

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SSJ3 Goku (manga)~MSSJ Goku~Unweighted Pikkon>>Fat Majin Buu (@ Vegeta)>Base Goku~>Weighted Pikkon>>Super Perfect Cell
The fact is, no other fights have been decided by suppression, so clearly Weighted Pikkon>>SPC. See how this justifies SSJ3 Goku>Buuhan in the anime? It's perfect!

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But if Pikkon was in the manga, he'd have been fodder even at the Cell Games.
"Fodder" isn't quite right, he'd at least be a lot stronger than Vegeta and Trunks; probably faster than Goku too. Obviously it's stated that no one in Otherworld is a match for Goku in the manga, but if Pikkon was in there and his power was almost the same as Goku, it would make him a pretty big contender during the Cell Games.
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I already said , take the Cell shet moment out.

Use it as Unweighted Pikkon ~ MSSJ Goku CG
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Tien Shinhan
Jan 19 2013, 11:33 PM
I already said , take the Cell shet moment out.

Use it as Unweighted Pikkon ~ MSSJ Goku CG
Pikkon loses. Dabura~Perfect Cell/Super Perfect Cell (we don't know which)
Pikkon~MSSJ Goku<Perfect Cell
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I'm giving this to Pikkon.

Pikkon was slightly stronger than Goku, who may have gotten a little stronger himself in between Gohan's victory and the OW Tournament. Adult Gohan(Budokai) was a tad inferior to Dabura; I think Gohan is suppose to be somewhere around Cell Games Goku.

Pikkon>SSj Goku(OWT)>Dabura~SSj Goku(Cell Games)>~SSj Adult Gohan.

Since Dabura said he would follow forum rules and not use spit; I can actually see Pikkon overwhelming him with his Fire(Thunder) Flash and Hyper Tornado techniques.
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Jan 20 2013, 05:34 AM
I'm giving this to Pikkon.

Pikkon was slightly stronger than Goku, who may have gotten a little stronger himself in between Gohan's victory and the OW Tournament. Adult Gohan(Budokai) was a tad inferior to Dabura; I think Gohan is suppose to be somewhere around Cell Games Goku.

Pikkon>SSj Goku(OWT)>Dabura~SSj Goku(Cell Games)>~SSj Adult Gohan.

Since Dabura said he would follow forum rules and not use spit; I can actually see Pikkon overwhelming him with his Fire(Thunder) Flash and Hyper Tornado techniques.
I think Dabura might be stronger than we're giving him credit for. He called Gohan "trash" (probably arrogance, but...) and Goku says he's at Cell's level at first, then reconsiders calling him "way stronger than we thought," so it's not implausible that he was just toying with Gohan and at full force, he'd be = Super Perfect Cell.

I think it's enough to say that he's actually much stronger than Gohan if Goku estimates him at Cell level, then reconsiders saying he's stronger. (Also there's another connection I could make here, though it's unrelated to this topic. Vegeta called Kibito a "bumbler" for losing badly to someone at Cell's level, which might mean that Vegeta thinks that Kibito is strong enough to avoid death at the hands of someone who's equal to Cell. Just a thought.)
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More proof of Gohan being a SSJ1

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Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P10.5-6
Context: as Gohan fights Dabra
Vegeta: “Damn it…this is pissing me off! Alright, I’ll finish this!”
Goku: “Don’t, Vegeta! Let [Gohan] do it. It ain’t like he’s completely losing.”

Goku kinda implies that he thinks Vegeta could actually end it. At this point in time, he doesn't know Vegeta has SSJ2, so unless you think SSJ Vegeta > SSJ2 Gohan ...

As for the topic, personally I think Pikkon could do it with some level of difficulty (yeah I have no idea where to place him).
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Jan 20 2013, 07:05 AM
Professor Gohan
Jan 20 2013, 05:34 AM
I'm giving this to Pikkon.

Pikkon was slightly stronger than Goku, who may have gotten a little stronger himself in between Gohan's victory and the OW Tournament. Adult Gohan(Budokai) was a tad inferior to Dabura; I think Gohan is suppose to be somewhere around Cell Games Goku.

Pikkon>SSj Goku(OWT)>Dabura~SSj Goku(Cell Games)>~SSj Adult Gohan.

Since Dabura said he would follow forum rules and not use spit; I can actually see Pikkon overwhelming him with his Fire(Thunder) Flash and Hyper Tornado techniques.
I think Dabura might be stronger than we're giving him credit for. He called Gohan "trash" (probably arrogance, but...) and Goku says he's at Cell's level at first, then reconsiders calling him "way stronger than we thought," so it's not implausible that he was just toying with Gohan and at full force, he'd be = Super Perfect Cell.

I think it's enough to say that he's actually much stronger than Gohan if Goku estimates him at Cell level, then reconsiders saying he's stronger. (Also there's another connection I could make here, though it's unrelated to this topic. Vegeta called Kibito a "bumbler" for losing badly to someone at Cell's level, which might mean that Vegeta thinks that Kibito is strong enough to avoid death at the hands of someone who's equal to Cell. Just a thought.)
Just from the brief fight they had, Dabura seemed to use magic more than anything after getting that one good hit off with that ki blast.

Even after he spat then came at Gohan with his sword. I think that was probably what Goku was referring too. It's still techniques, so I personally think it should be judged in how someone is strong or not, just because of it being part of them.

As for calling Gohan trash: I think Dabura was a little cocky and miscalculated too much for his own good, which ended up back firing and burning him later on against Buu.

Goku and Vegeta really don't seem that impress with Dabura until he brought out his magic cards, which make Dabura. That being said, I think Pikkon may have the power alone to do it; but Pikkon has techniques and attacks he can use on Dabura too.

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I'll just throw in that the comment Goku made about Dabura being stronger than they though was in relation to his magic.

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Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
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Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
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It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash.

I have Dabra at slightly above Perfect Cell (powered up, the one Goku fought). Pikkon should easily take this.
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