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Goku (Namek Saga) vs the Ginyu Force
Topic Started: Jan 19 2013, 02:54 AM (748 Views)
IllogicalGlory
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...after he received his zenkai from eating the senzu in the hospital. We know he increased a lot; is it enough to beat any of the Ginyu Force?

Goku can use kaio-ken.
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Alex D. Boss
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I have him weaker than Vegeta who is 24,000

He gets stomped by Monstah Zarbon.
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IllogicalGlory
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Tien Shinhan
Jan 19 2013, 03:00 AM
I have him weaker than Vegeta who is 24,000

He gets stomped by Monstah Zarbon.
Kaio-ken? He'd probably be able to do it better than before too.
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Alex D. Boss
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He didn't train for that though , since he was still in the hospital ;)
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IllogicalGlory
Jan 19 2013, 02:54 AM
...after he received his zenkai from eating the senzu in the hospital. We know he increased a lot; is it enough to beat any of the Ginyu Force?

Goku can use kaio-ken.



No we dont. There was no quote or anything thatt implies Goku got any stronger infact I dont even think zenkais existed in this point in the series that saiyans get stronger after every fight and receive zenkais until Vegeta fought Cui. If he did get a zenkai it probadly wasn't anything noticable so Ginyu Force win.
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Zenkais were retroactively added. Krillin made a comment about way back in dragon ball about wondering how Goku got so much stronger after fights all the time, or something like that.
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Jan 19 2013, 04:51 AM
Zenkais were retroactively added. Krillin made a comment about way back in dragon ball about wondering how Goku got so much stronger after fights all the time, or something like that.



Do you have a quote? Because I dont see that anywhere in the manga.
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Animelover5487
Jan 19 2013, 05:02 AM
Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 19 2013, 04:51 AM
Zenkais were retroactively added. Krillin made a comment about way back in dragon ball about wondering how Goku got so much stronger after fights all the time, or something like that.



Do you have a quote? Because I dont see that anywhere in the manga.
That be this.

Chapter: 268 (DBZ 74), P8.1-5
Context: Vegeta thinks Zarbon’s strength has fallen from the pre-emptive attack and brags about his own increase in power.
Vegeta: “Looks like my preemptive attack had an effect…Your stamina’s fallen quite a bit, hasn’t it? Zarbon, your death is close.”
Zarbon: “My d-death is close…!? Don’t make me laugh! My battle power is higher than yours!”
Vegeta: “Zarbon…Weren’t you supposed to know a lot about Saiyans? It wasn’t a good idea for you to carelessly treat me after I almost died…Don’t you think so? Saiyans can steadily increase their battle power each time they recover from near death…”
Kuririn: “So…so that’s it…! Now that he mentions it, Goku also got stronger every time he had a fierce fight…Dam-dammit! So that’s why Vegeta’s ki has risen so darn much…!”
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Where do you guys get these quotes?
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I'm allowed to reference this right?

Hope so. http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15488
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Yeah, I think you can crash, I've done it before.

Anyways, whatever zenkai he got wasn't worth mentioning so it ain't worth much in the long run..Goku loses.
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Goku would lose , after he left the hospital he was not as stong as he supposed to be as he has not been training during that period. I think even Dodoria would stomp the hell out of Goku

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I think

Cui > Goku Post Zenkai

No I don't think so , I know that.

If Vegeta goes from 18,000 to 24,000

Goku should be from 8?,000 to 14,000
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Yeah i think Goku may be somewhere around 10 000. He got a very small zenkai.
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