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How stong are the humans buu arc?
Topic Started: Jan 17 2013, 08:02 PM (3,498 Views)
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Revious83
Jan 17 2013, 08:45 PM
If we go by what everybody believes, that the humans have very limited potential them they are around 6-12 million.
If we go by what i believe, that there are no limits in DBZ, then then they should range from 100% Frieza to Perfect Cell.
I don't think a single person here believes in limits, or at least none of the more active members.

Around 20-25% Freeza for me.
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Wow, even at the 100% effort I am using vs. P right now on Den Of Shin, I cannot even begin to compare against even 1% of znet's impeccable logic.
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RAT-TAT-TAT-TAT

I would Put them around 20-50% Frieza...
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Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
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50% Confidence that they will team up with Saiyans/Piccolo to defeat the Androids, 50% Confidence in their hax attacks.
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BukLau
Jan 18 2013, 12:24 AM
50% Confidence that they will team up with Saiyans/Piccolo to defeat the Androids, 50% Confidence in their hax attacks.
Well, considering the success rate of the Kienzan and the Wolf Fang Fist, what were Krillin and Yamcha thinking? :lol:
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Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 18 2013, 12:21 AM
Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
They are Heros. Look at tien is a hell of a lot weaker than Semi Cell yet he attacked him. Krillin attacked Perfect Cell and Got Kicked in the Head.... Krillin chanced attacking frieza when he was at a large disadvantage. Krillin tried to stand up to tambourine and died trying. Tien used up all of his reserves on Nappa, tien attack deflected buutenks when he was absolutely nowhere near buutenks.
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Jan 18 2013, 12:21 AM
Serious question for those who have the humans 70% or below of Freeza's power.

What do you make of their confidence, or at least their bravery to show up, against opponents that were hyped as unbelievable monsters that destroyed a future with numerous Super Saiyans?
There were relying on SSJ Goku to win the fight. Only human that has confidence in him self at least Anime wise is Tien.

Krillen is worried about dying, and Yamacha didn't train as all out as he could of.

Look at their reaction when Goku starts getting sick to Vegeta and Piccolo start fighting. Goku was the ace in the hole and the others were old there to back him up.
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Jan 17 2013, 08:02 PM
I think Krillin isn’t to far of from android 18
Yamcha 100% Frizea or SSJ Namek Goku. Tien stronger or rivalling android 18 and chiaotzu 50% frizea.


Freeza's level is still established as a significant benchmark even in the Buu arc.

If it were so easily attainable for anyone, Kaioshin's line wouldn't have been so impressive to them:

Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P14.1-5
Context: after hearing that Boo destroyed hundreds of planets
Vegeta (thinking to himself): “Hmph…Even we Saiyans could do a thing like that…”
Kaioshin: “No, Vegeta. At the time, there were 5 Kaioshins. Any one of them was good enough to defeat someone of Freeza’s level in a single blow…Out of those Kaioshins, 4 were killed by Majin Boo.”
Goku: “Hieeh! A-amazin’…”
Vegeta: “Th-that bastard…So he can even read minds, huh?”
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I think it is obvious that Krillin went into the fight with a Super Taiyoken and Ultra Mega Kienzan attack combo that he spent three years preparing but never got to use.

Tenshinhan on the other hand just said "screw it" and decided to test out Shin Kikoho with no real knowledge of it would work.

And Yamcha? He had the Genki Wolf Fang Fist and was about to use it on Dr. Gero but he proved to strong.

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My Neo Tri Beam amp is so High that If Tein used it with KKx2 I have him beating all the Androids and KKx20 he could take out Broly.
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Jan 18 2013, 12:29 AM
znet
Jan 17 2013, 08:02 PM
I think Krillin isn’t to far of from android 18
Yamcha 100% Frizea or SSJ Namek Goku. Tien stronger or rivalling android 18 and chiaotzu 50% frizea.


Freeza's level is still established as a significant benchmark even in the Buu arc.

If it were so easily attainable for anyone, Kaioshin's line wouldn't have been so impressive to them:

Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P14.1-5
Context: after hearing that Boo destroyed hundreds of planets
Vegeta (thinking to himself): “Hmph…Even we Saiyans could do a thing like that…”
Kaioshin: “No, Vegeta. At the time, there were 5 Kaioshins. Any one of them was good enough to defeat someone of Freeza’s level in a single blow…Out of those Kaioshins, 4 were killed by Majin Boo.”
Goku: “Hieeh! A-amazin’…”
Vegeta: “Th-that bastard…So he can even read minds, huh?”
Great evidence. I didn't think to apply the quote that way. Though...is Goku surprised that someone could surpass Freeza, or that someone could be so powerful that they could basically one-shot him?
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Yamcha's hoping the androids ain't real; Krillin complains he ain't a Super Saiyan; Tensh**hands is relieved that Pikkoro-sama and Veggiefruits got as strong as they did; Piccolo calls the humans poop to top it aalllllll off.

I am lost as to what "confidence" or "bravery" you speak of. Don't talk in riddles man, if something's bothering you, you can tell me. I'm here for you. Tien's the only one who seems even a little brave, but this is the dude who freaks out over Sick Goku's power before charging #17 and #18. It's just his character.
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I want to say something.

When Gero prepared to fight the 3 (Goku,Piccolo,Tien) , they were ready to fight , as you can see Tien was ready to fight the Androids himself too. Then when Goku says its not save here because of people they fly to another place.

When Gero sent 19 to fight , Goku says that Tien and Piccolo should not enter , since the Androids wanted Goku first not them. If they didn't used Goku as target , Tien and Piccolo would join too , as they were relevant.

Any thoughts on this?
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Kamikaze Pyro
Jan 18 2013, 12:32 AM
Though...is Goku surprised that someone could surpass Freeza, or that someone could be so powerful that they could basically one-shot him?


Goku and the other Saiyans are already capable of one-shoting Freeza by transforming into Super Saiyan; it should only be considered an impressive feat to them if Freeza's power were still viewed as a threat to their normal states.

Goku's reaction would suggest that someone of Freeza's tier and beyond is a rarity in the universe. It no longer holds any merit if humans could achieve it just through training, without any transformations or assimilations at their disposal.
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