SSJ Future Gohan vs. Piccolo (Android saga)

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SSJ Future Gohan vs. Piccolo (Android saga)
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Nanho	Jan 20 2013, 12:13 AM Post #46
Posts: 464 Group: Probation Member #8,818 Joined: January 6, 2013	Quote: I did not think this was possible, but someone has finally surpassed Weskur levels of denial. How is it denial when none of my points have actually been refuted. If my points were refuted and I kept repeating then yeah, but they werent. And to be honest I wouldnt care if piccolo was or wasnt stronger than trunk(pre 3 years). anyways no need to get personal and have this thread closed.



Crow	Jan 20 2013, 12:28 AM Post #47
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	Why is everyone putting gohan So weak, he was stronger than one android but couldn't quite handle two, even though those androids werent as strong, they still wouldn't have been that much weaker. and how was trunks stronger than gohan, he did a lot worse than gohan did against them. Future gohan would be more around the level of one android from the normal timeline or maybe a bit weaker, I'd put him at about 18 making him stronger than piccolo and even vegeta at that time too



~~GridZero~~	Jan 20 2013, 12:35 AM Post #48
Posts: 5,387 Group: Suspended Member #7,577 Joined: April 27, 2012 What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Fullmetal Alchemist	Anime special only. In the manga, Future Gohan is at best 50% of Future 17.



Zenet	Jan 20 2013, 12:52 AM Post #49
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 12:28 AM Why is everyone putting gohan So weak, he was stronger than one android but couldn't quite handle two, even though those androids werent as strong, they still wouldn't have been that much weaker. and how was trunks stronger than gohan, he did a lot worse than gohan did against them. Future gohan would be more around the level of one android from the normal timeline or maybe a bit weaker, I'd put him at about 18 making him stronger than piccolo and even vegeta at that time too In the first fight he done ok but in the second he didn't last long in the 2nd fight C17 mentions he wasn't even using half his power.



Nanho	Jan 20 2013, 01:00 AM Post #50
Posts: 464 Group: Probation Member #8,818 Joined: January 6, 2013	I dont see how this is refuting my points? this seems like spamming to me. You want me to repeat myself? Quote: Chapter: 352 (DBZ 158), P11.1 Context: after fighting Vegeta for awhile No.18: “*I haven’t been giving it anywhere near my all either. Can you tell?” Alright,firstly, Notice here she said ''either'' which means they were both holding back. Quote: Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1 Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18 Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…” No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?” Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.” No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you.” Her saying ''nothing special'' here doesnt necessarily mean shes too far above him, or else she wouldnt be impressed and she wouldnt ask whether goku was stronger or not; He could be just below and still be ''nothing special'. And after she said that the fight seemed pretty even with her slowly gaining the advantage because of unlimited power as implied by both trunks and Piccolo. Edited by Nanho*, Jan 20 2013, 01:10 AM.



Crow	Jan 20 2013, 01:11 AM Post #51
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	zenet Jan 20 2013, 12:52 AM MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 12:28 AM Why is everyone putting gohan So weak, he was stronger than one android but couldn't quite handle two, even though those androids werent as strong, they still wouldn't have been that much weaker. and how was trunks stronger than gohan, he did a lot worse than gohan did against them. Future gohan would be more around the level of one android from the normal timeline or maybe a bit weaker, I'd put him at about 18 making him stronger than piccolo and even vegeta at that time too In the first fight he done ok but in the second he didn't last long in the 2nd fight C17 mentions he wasn't even using half his power. I think he did pretty good against them considering he only had one arm and there was two of them, he seemed to hold his own for a while. Are you talking about the movie special or the manga



Zenet	Jan 20 2013, 01:15 AM Post #52
Posts: 2,755 Group: Member Member #8,544 Joined: November 11, 2012 Gender Not Specified	MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 01:11 AM zenet Jan 20 2013, 12:52 AM MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 12:28 AM Why is everyone putting gohan So weak, he was stronger than one android but couldn't quite handle two, even though those androids werent as strong, they still wouldn't have been that much weaker. and how was trunks stronger than gohan, he did a lot worse than gohan did against them. Future gohan would be more around the level of one android from the normal timeline or maybe a bit weaker, I'd put him at about 18 making him stronger than piccolo and even vegeta at that time too In the first fight he done ok but in the second he didn't last long in the 2nd fight C17 mentions he wasn't even using half his power. I think he did pretty good against them considering he only had one arm and there was two of them, he seemed to hold his own for a while. Are you talking about the movie special or the manga in the manga.



Crow	Jan 20 2013, 01:29 AM Post #53
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	zenet Jan 20 2013, 01:15 AM MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 01:11 AM zenet Jan 20 2013, 12:52 AM MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 12:28 AM Why is everyone putting gohan So weak, he was stronger than one android but couldn't quite handle two, even though those androids werent as strong, they still wouldn't have been that much weaker. and how was trunks stronger than gohan, he did a lot worse than gohan did against them. Future gohan would be more around the level of one android from the normal timeline or maybe a bit weaker, I'd put him at about 18 making him stronger than piccolo and even vegeta at that time too In the first fight he done ok but in the second he didn't last long in the 2nd fight C17 mentions he wasn't even using half his power. I think he did pretty good against them considering he only had one arm and there was two of them, he seemed to hold his own for a while. Are you talking about the movie special or the manga in the manga. If your going by that than why did you say he didn't do as good in the second fight, it didn't even show the second fight. But anyway I guess going by the manga he could be weaker than piccolo.



+ Kyouks	Jan 20 2013, 01:41 AM Post #54
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	The manga mentions a first fight (which isn't shown) where Future Gohan got owned by 17 while using less than half of his power. Future Gohan is later confident in taking on one android, but not both, and this is before 17 tells him he used less than half power. Future 17 >>> Future Gohan (2nd fight) >/> 17 ("less than half") >>> Future Gohan (1st fight).



Crow	Jan 20 2013, 01:50 AM Post #55
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	BukLau Jan 20 2013, 12:35 AM Anime special only. In the manga, Future Gohan is at best 50% of Future 17. Aw yes, I see



Alex D. Boss	Jan 20 2013, 01:55 AM Post #56
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Nanho Jan 20 2013, 01:00 AM I dont see how this is refuting my points? this seems like spamming to me. You want me to repeat myself? Quote: Chapter: 352 (DBZ 158), P11.1 Context: after fighting Vegeta for awhile No.18: “*I haven’t been giving it anywhere near my all either. Can you tell?” Alright,firstly, Notice here she said ''either'' which means they were both holding back. Quote: Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1 Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18 Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…” No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?” Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.” No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you*.” Her saying ''nothing special'' here doesnt necessarily mean shes too far above him, or else she wouldnt be impressed and she wouldnt ask whether goku was stronger or not; He could be just below and still be ''nothing special'. And after she said that the fight seemed pretty even with her slowly gaining the advantage because of unlimited power as implied by both trunks and Piccolo. Chapter: 380 (DBZ 186), P4.1-2 No.18: “Amazing…! Do you think he only pretended to be weak when he fought me?” No.16: “No. He’d have no reason to do that. Something's happened in these last few days.” 18 toyed with Vegeta all along. Vegeta was weak compared to 18. Nothing states that he was close to his power.



Crow	Jan 20 2013, 02:06 AM Post #57
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 01:50 AM BukLau Jan 20 2013, 12:35 AM Anime special only. In the manga, Future Gohan is at best 50% of Future 17. Aw yes, I see But acturley now that I've thought about it, if he came back confident to fight both of them after fighting them when they where at half power which he thought was full he should be at least a bit stronger than one of them at half power, making his best more like 75 percent of 17. If you understand what I mean. If he went there thinking he was the same level as one of them what would be the point.



+ Kyouks	Jan 20 2013, 02:09 AM Post #58
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 02:06 AM But acturley now that I've thought about it, if he came back confident to fight both of them after fighting them when they where at half power which he thought was full he should be at least a bit stronger than one of them at half power He came back confident to fight one, not both.



Crow	Jan 20 2013, 02:18 AM Post #59
Posts: 446 Group: Member Member #8,668 Joined: December 10, 2012 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Google Favourite Manga Dragonball Z Dragonball	Kiosko Iwannabegattsu Jan 20 2013, 02:09 AM MasterGohan5 Jan 20 2013, 02:06 AM But acturley now that I've thought about it, if he came back confident to fight both of them after fighting them when they where at half power which he thought was full he should be at least a bit stronger than one of them at half power He came back confident to fight one, not both. Why would he be confident to fight one, he knows there's two and he knows that there evil androids and there not going to play nice. One of them was stronger than him and they still ganged up



+ Kyouks	Jan 20 2013, 02:22 AM Post #60
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	They never ganged up on him, not even the 2nd fight.



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