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Topic Started: Jan 16 2013, 07:42 AM (1,367 Views)
Nanho
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znet
Jan 16 2013, 05:35 PM
Nanho
Jan 16 2013, 05:33 PM
znet
Jan 16 2013, 05:32 PM
Nanho
Jan 16 2013, 05:28 PM
znet
Jan 16 2013, 05:27 PM
Nanho
Jan 16 2013, 05:25 PM
Its simple andriod 19 and 20 were much weaker frieza...
No they should be rivalling frizea.
they should? where in the manga is that stated?
I never read the magna but it would be silly to think the androids were weaker than frizea. also because piccolo rivalled the SSJs

I think it would be silly to think other wise...
Why? don't you see piccolo rivalling the SSJs.
I would put piccolo at frieza level or close to it..
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FamousBueller
Jan 16 2013, 05:41 PM
I believe 16 > 17 > 18 > ssj vegeta > ssj goku > ssj trunks > frieza 100% > piccolo > 20 > 19
^ This.
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Jan 16 2013, 05:41 PM
I believe 16 > 17 > 18 > ssj vegeta > ssj goku > ssj trunks > frieza 100% > piccolo > 20 > 19
But Krillin in the magna says hes as strong as a SSJ and even wihtout that quote he done better with the andriod

SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Goku >SSJ Trunks > Piccolo > Andriods 20 > Andriod 19 = SSJ Goku Namek
Edited by Zenet, Jan 16 2013, 05:52 PM.
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Super Asian

When did krillin say that? I only member him saying that when piccolo fused with kami
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He doesnt say he's as strong as a super saiyan. He said: ''hes that strong and hes not even a super saiyan'' which means hes impressed he can reach such a high level without being a super saiyan.

And the whole scenes from then on to when piccolo fused with Kami they were making a big deal about Trunks being weaker/defeated than/by the andriods(17 and 18) with repetition of him beating frieza. why would they make a big deal about him being defeated if piccolo was as strong. And trunks was said to be weaker than vegeta..
Edited by Nanho, Jan 16 2013, 06:10 PM.
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Jan 16 2013, 06:03 PM
When did krillin say that? I only member him saying that when piccolo fused with kami
I think its when piccolo fights android 20. beside that I found this quote about the SSJ increase.

Akira Toryama: " At the time, it was made out that he was fifty times as strong when he became Super Saiyan, but that's a little extravagant. As far as my feelings as an author go, I think I drew it with the sense of it being a change of about ten times what he had been up until then."

Seeing this there isn't anything haxed about piccolo rivalling the SSJs in the android saga.
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znet
Jan 16 2013, 06:10 PM
FamousBueller
Jan 16 2013, 06:03 PM
When did krillin say that? I only member him saying that when piccolo fused with kami
I think its when piccolo fights android 20. beside that I found this quote about the SSJ increase.

Akira Toryama: " At the time, it was made out that he was fifty times as strong when he became Super Saiyan, but that's a little extravagant. As far as my feelings as an author go, I think I drew it with the sense of it being a change of about ten times what he had been up until then."

Seeing this there isn't anything haxed about piccolo rivalling the SSJs in the android saga.
Can you provide the link to wish this came from(thin air maybe?)?
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Nanho
Jan 16 2013, 05:25 PM
Its simple andriod 19 and 20 were much weaker than frieza..
I'm gonna enjoy when you will get banned soon ;)

znet is right: 20>19>Frieza

Trunks warns Goku to train hard 3 years to defeat the androids , while he defeated Frieza with eas. Simple.

And not to mention: If you ask that they were wrong androids , AT brought first these androids , then decided to change it to 17,18 and then decided to change again for Cell.

http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8603190&t=8393016
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Nanho
Jan 16 2013, 06:19 PM
znet
Jan 16 2013, 06:10 PM
FamousBueller
Jan 16 2013, 06:03 PM
When did krillin say that? I only member him saying that when piccolo fused with kami
I think its when piccolo fights android 20. beside that I found this quote about the SSJ increase.

Akira Toryama: " At the time, it was made out that he was fifty times as strong when he became Super Saiyan, but that's a little extravagant. As far as my feelings as an author go, I think I drew it with the sense of it being a change of about ten times what he had been up until then."

Seeing this there isn't anything haxed about piccolo rivalling the SSJs in the android saga.
Can you provide the link to wish this came from(thin air maybe?)?

I found it here http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=997366
Edited by Zenet, Jan 16 2013, 07:00 PM.
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20 Post > 20 Pre > 19 Post > 19 Pre > SSJ Trunks >> Mecha Freeza.

And that's that.

And LOL at someone posting a Pojo link.

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BukLau
Jan 16 2013, 06:39 PM
20 Post > 20 Pre > 19 Post > 19 Pre > SSJ Trunks >> Mecha Freeza.



We can say this a million times, they won't accept it. Even if you bring provide evidences or whatever you bring they still crying how Frieza should be the strongest.
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Freeza is absolute trash in the Android Saga.

Tenshinhan can kill him even with a single Shin Kikoho.

Even though it's unrelated to his true strength, just the fact that a human can kill "the strongest guy in the universe" is proof that he's a joke by that time.
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And not to mention: If you ask that they were wrong androids , AT brought first these androids , then decided to change it to 17,18 and then decided to change again for Cell.

This point is moot; AT probably at first planned them to be as strong as 17 and 18. but then when he came with the idea of 17 and 18, he changed the strengths of 20 and 19.

are you seriously telling he wanted the adriod saga to end with piccolo killing 20? and so easy..
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Jan 16 2013, 06:51 PM
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And not to mention: If you ask that they were wrong androids , AT brought first these androids , then decided to change it to 17,18 and then decided to change again for Cell.

This point is moot; AT probably at first planned them to be as strong as 17 and 18. but then when he came with the idea of 17 and 18, he changed the strengths of 20 and 19.

are you seriously telling he wanted the adriod saga to end with piccolo killing 20? and so easy..
This is a load of conjecture.

Prove the Androids are weaker than Freeza with quotes and statements.
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BukLau
Jan 16 2013, 06:48 PM
Freeza is absolute trash in the Android Saga.

Tenshinhan can kill him even with a single Shin Kikoho.

Even though it's unrelated to his true strength, just the fact that a human can kill "the strongest guy in the universe" is proof that he's a joke by that time.




well I wouldnt say frizea is that far of from the andriods pre. But I dont why people understimate the humans. they took out the ginyu force with ease so tien and yamcha brielfy passed vegeta. Also tien attack is related to his strength just a bit more haxed than normal attacks.
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