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Women and anime/manga
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Cal	Jan 15 2013, 04:05 AM Post #1
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	What's your view on it? Japan, unlike some countries are more progressive in gender/sexuality culture when it comes to real life and civil liberties. However, in the anime/manga industry is almost the opposite. In the 50s manga started it's boom and sort of became official which targeted young male readers. It took 25 years for most female mangaka to really get involved in the industry (mid 70s), where they established the 'Shojo' genre which was made by and targeted toward females. After this many mangaka started getting female assistants to help them reach a broader audience. This was a victory for women in the industry. Since this there have been a good hand full of successful women mangaka (creator of FMA, Sailor Moon, etc). This ended up paying off in many ways. Even though manga is dominated by the male gender in Japan, it's not in other countries, namely, America. Statistics from 5-6 year ago when America had it's biggest manga boom proved that 60& of manga consumers were female which was a huge shock to the male demographic (at the time). ------ Female appeal actually in manga is a huge thing too. It has it's own genre from magical girl to incest sisters. All of which draw in a huge amount of fans all over the world (for different reasons I would imagine). Women are one of the huge things that can potentially save a series too. More often than not if a manga isn't as successful as it used to be and it's anywhere near a seinen type genre they can take away important parts of the manga (character development, plot, even art, etc) by using fanservice. Fanservice is typically known as getting people into your material through other means. Mostly what I mean is if your story about a high school class trying to defend themselves with zombies isn't going too well, well then add boobs and sexual situations that younger fans can either relate to or simply dream of to be honest. Links and stuff: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1223355,00.html http://voices.yahoo.com/gender-roles-through-image-70s-anime-manga-522957.html ---- These are my thoughts, opinions, and facts. How do you view women in manga/anime and what are their roles to you? Will probably do another topic over male roles when I feel like it.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Jan 16 2013, 04:26 PM Post #2
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	I generally don't like the roles of women in manga/anime. There are too many where the women seem hopeless without the men saving them. Of course these are shonen/seinen series, but still it's surely not healthy for readers/viewers male or female to see women portrayed in that light. Using women to create success for a series could be seen as part of a wider habit of using gender discrimination and the objectification of women for monetary (or you could even say capitalistic) gains, such as women being denied the opportunity to take up many jobs which could allow them to better their financial position, and also the extent of their control over their economic position (as in making them reliant on a male figure for their income). I find it interesting that you said that Japan is more progressive than other countries when it comes to gender issues. I've always been under the impression (or at least ever since I've had an impression of any kind about Japan on this issue) that Japan was one of the least feminist societies out there, basically because of everything I've seen about the sex/prostitution scene in Japan, the pornography scene and then also because of the role of women in anime/manga that we're on about now.
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Cal	Jan 16 2013, 04:30 PM Post #3
I may not deserve to live, but I will protect those in my reach with my reverse blade! Posts: 5,259 Group: Member Member #6,087 Joined: April 25, 2011 Gender Female Favourite Anime hentai What Browser do you use? hentaibrowser Favourite Manga hentai	Progressive might not be the right term, but I was just trying to contrast between how the manga portrays female characters and irl which are amazingly different in my opinion.



* Bex	Jan 16 2013, 04:39 PM Post #4
★ Bextreme Dream ★ Posts: 9,435 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,545 Joined: July 5, 2006 Gender Female Country United Kingdom What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I'm not gonna make a huge post but it's an interesting lot of information you posted Cal. I think that it makes a point that sex clearly does sell, in regards to the whole fanservice thing that is. I guess that's a sure fire way to generate interest because a) guys will like it if there's a girl in her underwear or butts or something but also b) I feel that there is a certain element of women liking to reach a certain amount of appeal - like kind of how theres tons of girls that post pictures of themselves pushing their boobs up and trying to look sexy on the internet, and yet a lot of women then go and say they would rather be taken seriously for their intelligence and stuff. So there's definitely a conflict between being seen as attractive by people and being seen as smart so that might be why it increases sales by using fanservice - just speculation though. Also I think the majority of girls think that anime guys and girls are cute, where as with guys maybe it wasn't quite as acceptable for them to think the same way at least publicly. Like there's a whole masculine culture around being seen as tough and manly so male anime would be things like DBZ or whichever shows have lots of fighting and the male character getting loads of girls to fall for him, where as girls may appreciate that for the same reason or because there's a cuteness factor involved. Again, just speculation.
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Kalila	Jan 17 2013, 04:42 PM Post #5
Posts: 289 Group: Member Member #7,792 Joined: June 19, 2012 Gender Female Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime DB and DBZ ofcourse, But I also like other anime too What Browser do you use? Firefox	Good thing not all anime girls are damsels is distress or hopeless.. Theres some main girls who are usually cool or kick butt. Lina Inverse of Slayers is crazy sorceress who can kick a bad guy's butt Edited by Kalila, Jan 17 2013, 04:43 PM.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Jan 17 2013, 09:15 PM Post #6
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Hmmm but they do always seem to sexualised at the same time. I'd like a heroine who isn't typically feminine, or conforming to stereotypes/traditional role assignments of women.
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Sasuke	Jan 17 2013, 09:34 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,922 Group: Member Member #7,745 Joined: June 11, 2012	Eh...you all and your big posts. I ABSOULTELY hate the women who are forced to hard into the role of the Kick Butt character. Especially when their arrgoant about it. I'd much rather have them either as the Big Boobed klutz or the intelligent but with a cold and calm demeanor. I'm not against them being the lead, actually think there should be more. But seriously no showing love interests until the very end of a series. SAO is a good example, the first few episodes had Kirito as the lead and Asuna as some sort of mystery character. Once the show flew off with popularity her character was changed to fit Kirito and be his love interest. Eh...I just don't like when that happens so early in the series.



* Bex	Jan 17 2013, 09:34 PM Post #8
★ Bextreme Dream ★ Posts: 9,435 Group: Retired Staff Member #1,545 Joined: July 5, 2006 Gender Female Country United Kingdom What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Would they need to act more like how a guy acts or are you thinking a totally different sort of thing? @ Trunks Edited by Bex, Jan 17 2013, 09:34 PM.
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TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Jan 17 2013, 10:06 PM Post #9
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	They shouldn't have to act in a way that pleases guys. They shouldnt all be sexual objects to male characters. Women watching anime should have an alternative heroine to look up to, who doesn't necessarily act in an overly traditionally masculine way but doesn't allow the beliefs or wants of men dictate her aspirations or actions. Someone who is able to be seen as a person before as a woman.
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